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I'll roll down my window completely only if the cop asks. And I'm not admitting to jack shit, sparky.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
good advice, except you should not admit to speeding or whatever, and you should only open the window enough to easily speak to the officer and hand documents through (maybe 4 or 5 inches). Any more than that and the cop can stick his head in and sniff/search around.
Also, If an officer ever asks you to get out of the car, make sure you lock it and put the keys in your pocket - this alone will prevent any unauthorized searches.
Also, If an officer ever asks you to get out of the car, make sure you lock it and put the keys in your pocket - this alone will prevent any unauthorized searches.
i_am_jesus: good advice, except you should not admit to speeding or whatever, and you should only open the window enough to easily speak to the officer and hand documents through (maybe 4 or 5 inches). Any more than that and the cop can stick his head in and sniff/search around.
Also, If an officer ever asks you to get out of the car, make sure you lock it and put the keys in your pocket - this alone will prevent any unauthorized searches.
Right on all counts. Never give them access unless you are absolutely required to. And know your rights. Cops will try to usurp them at the first opportunity.
Also, If an officer ever asks you to get out of the car, make sure you lock it and put the keys in your pocket - this alone will prevent any unauthorized searches.
Right on all counts. Never give them access unless you are absolutely required to. And know your rights. Cops will try to usurp them at the first opportunity.
untrustworthy: I'll roll down my window completely only if the cop asks. And I'm not admitting to jack shit, sparky.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
beat me to it.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
beat me to it.
“Roll down your window completely,” adds Sergeant Jones. “Nothing’s more frustrating than trying to speak through a slightly cracked window. If you only give me an inch-wide gap, you hinder my ability to determine your sobriety illegally snoop around your vehicle”
FTFY, Mr. Piggy.
FTFY, Mr. Piggy.
osirisothedead: “Roll down your window completely,” adds Sergeant Jones. “Nothing’s more frustrating than trying to speak through a slightly cracked window. If you only give me an inch-wide gap, you hinder my ability to determine your sobriety illegally snoop around your vehicle”
FTFY, Mr. Piggy.
Good advice as to how to handle a traffic stop isn't going to come from the people who are trying to find you at fault for something. That's rule #1.
FTFY, Mr. Piggy.
Good advice as to how to handle a traffic stop isn't going to come from the people who are trying to find you at fault for something. That's rule #1.
in the interest of two way dialogue on the issue...my advice to police officers...don't treat a traffic violation like waco and i won't impersonate koresh.
untrustworthy: I'll roll down my window completely only if the cop asks. And I'm not admitting to jack shit, sparky.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
This, and a +1 for you.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
This, and a +1 for you.
untrustworthy:
isn't going to come from the people who are trying to find you at fault for something.
the other side of the coin....
isn't going to come from the people who are trying to find you at fault for something.
the other side of the coin....
heap: in the interest of two way dialogue on the issue...my advice to police officers...don't treat a traffic violation like waco and i won't impersonate koresh.
You have stupid oversized glasses? ;)
You have stupid oversized glasses? ;)
heap: in the interest of two way dialogue on the issue...my advice to police officers...don't treat a traffic violation like waco and i won't impersonate koresh.
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heap: the other side of the coin....
That's a great video series. And it's where I got my advice I posted upthread. Good stuff.
That's a great video series. And it's where I got my advice I posted upthread. Good stuff.
3) Just Say "No" to Warrantless Searches
Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
QFT from the above link. If you don't see evidence of a crime in progress you can FOAD, Sparky.
Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
QFT from the above link. If you don't see evidence of a crime in progress you can FOAD, Sparky.
As much as I hate the ACLU, they have produced and excellent series of videos that show exactly how to deal with cops. Be it a traffic stop and how to refuse a search or if they come to your home and claim to smell weed or if you are just walking down the street and they claim you fit a description.
It is 3 parts and available on YouTube. I highly recommend them.
It is 3 parts and available on YouTube. I highly recommend them.
socodog: 3) Just Say "No" to Warrantless Searches
Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
QFT from the above link. If you don't see evidence of a crime in progress you can FOAD, Sparky.
^This. I don't consent to a search ever. It was almost a year ago that I was asked by a cop if he could search my car. I said, "No, thanks." He seemed a little baffled, actually.
Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
QFT from the above link. If you don't see evidence of a crime in progress you can FOAD, Sparky.
^This. I don't consent to a search ever. It was almost a year ago that I was asked by a cop if he could search my car. I said, "No, thanks." He seemed a little baffled, actually.
capt kirk: As much as I hate the ACLU
Anyone who hates the ACLU is either an idiot or a fascist. Which branch do you fall under?
Anyone who hates the ACLU is either an idiot or a fascist. Which branch do you fall under?
some instances, either/or falls way short of the explanation provided by both/and.
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I got a $140 ticket for running a yellow light! I was polite as fuck - I still got a fucking ticket for nothing.
osirisothedead: Anyone who hates the ACLU is either an idiot or a fascist. Which branch do you fall under?
Who said he has to fall under one? ;)
Who said he has to fall under one? ;)
Still bummed about i: I got a $140 ticket for running a yellow light! I was polite as fuck - I still got a fucking ticket for nothing.
Running a yellow? That's illegal where you live?
Running a yellow? That's illegal where you live?
Still bummed about i: I got a $140 ticket for running a yellow light! I was polite as fuck - I still got a fucking ticket for nothing.
Hope you contested it.
Hope you contested it.
osirisothedead: But my delivery itself is worth it. ;-)
Glad to see an appropriate followup to my double entendre.
Glad to see an appropriate followup to my double entendre.
He says "the van beside you stopped, why did you floor it?"
The van wasn't beside me, it was 3-4 feet father behind. I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned, so I kept going.
Contest? I have the wrong skin color, and I was driving in a small town already resentful of all the Mexicans immigrating. (no, I am not Mexican)
Also, it was the end of the month.
The van wasn't beside me, it was 3-4 feet father behind. I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned, so I kept going.
Contest? I have the wrong skin color, and I was driving in a small town already resentful of all the Mexicans immigrating. (no, I am not Mexican)
Also, it was the end of the month.
osirisothedead: I do not consent to any searches, Officer joemc72. :-)
I bet you'd make a concession for a cavity search.
I bet you'd make a concession for a cavity search.
Bummed: He says "the van beside you stopped, why did you floor it?"
The van wasn't beside me, it was 3-4 feet father behind. I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned, so I kept going.
Contest? I have the wrong skin color, and I was driving in a small town already resentful of all the Mexicans immigrating. (no, I am not Mexican)
Also, it was the end of the month.
Were you speeding? Did the light turn red before you entered the intersection?
The van wasn't beside me, it was 3-4 feet father behind. I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned, so I kept going.
Contest? I have the wrong skin color, and I was driving in a small town already resentful of all the Mexicans immigrating. (no, I am not Mexican)
Also, it was the end of the month.
Were you speeding? Did the light turn red before you entered the intersection?
Ditch all the schnozberries, too.
How did this thread go from cop advice to homo buttsex in 2.5 seconds? Dammit, mimir...
untrustworthy: Were you speeding? Did the light turn red before you entered the intersection?
Absolutely not speeding. It was intersection after intersection, and everyone was stopping and going. So by the time the next intersection was reached, I had come up to a particular speed, I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned. There was no reason why I need to have stopped at that juncture. The only thing here was that, at that intersection, the cop happened to be waiting on the other side. Easy pickings.
Absolutely not speeding. It was intersection after intersection, and everyone was stopping and going. So by the time the next intersection was reached, I had come up to a particular speed, I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned. There was no reason why I need to have stopped at that juncture. The only thing here was that, at that intersection, the cop happened to be waiting on the other side. Easy pickings.
osirisothedead: How did this thread go from cop advice to homo buttsex in 2.5 seconds? Dammit, mimir...
Ever heard of a cream filled donut hole? Cop's love 'em. ;)
Ever heard of a cream filled donut hole? Cop's love 'em. ;)
osirisothedead: How did this thread go from cop advice to homo buttsex in 2.5 seconds? Dammit, mimir...
Thread was over dude. All the cop advice that was needed had already been dispensed.
Besides, it was a Waynes world joke.
Thread was over dude. All the cop advice that was needed had already been dispensed.
Besides, it was a Waynes world joke.
osirisothedead: I do not consent to any searches, Officer joemc72. :-)
Thank the stars I'm not asking for one. This is one thread that does NOT need any advice from me. :)
Thank the stars I'm not asking for one. This is one thread that does NOT need any advice from me. :)
Bummed: Absolutely not speeding. It was intersection after intersection, and everyone was stopping and going. So by the time the next intersection was reached, I had come up to a particular speed, I was 3 feet from the intersection when the signal turned. There was no reason why I need to have stopped at that juncture. The only thing here was that, at that intersection, the cop happened to be waiting on the other side. Easy pickings.
Did the light turn red before you entered the intersection or just yellow? If it was just yellow, check out your local laws. I'm betting you were legal.
Did the light turn red before you entered the intersection or just yellow? If it was just yellow, check out your local laws. I'm betting you were legal.
untrustworthy: Did the light turn red before you entered the intersection or just yellow? If it was just yellow, check out your local laws. I'm betting you were legal.
Yellow. I probably turned red right after I crossed it (I didn't even seen it turn red while in the intersection).
Yellow. I probably turned red right after I crossed it (I didn't even seen it turn red while in the intersection).
Bummed: Yellow. I probably turned red right after I crossed it (I didn't even seen it turn red while in the intersection).
He wrote "Disregarding traffic signal" in my citation.
He wrote "Disregarding traffic signal" in my citation.
Bummed: He wrote "Disregarding traffic signal" in my citation.
So it wasn't even a failure to stop. You definitely should have contested it, you got a bullshit ticket.
So it wasn't even a failure to stop. You definitely should have contested it, you got a bullshit ticket.
Bummed: Yellow. I probably turned red right after I crossed it (I didn't even seen it turn red while in the intersection).
He wrote "Disregarding traffic signal" in my citation.
I'm guessing he's full of shit then. Yellow is there for a reason. It's a warning that the light is changing. But there's no rule that says you're supposed to stop at a yellow. Just anticipate whether you can safely travel through the intersection before cross traffic will get the green.
Contest it. Or at least go to court and discuss it with the judge.
He wrote "Disregarding traffic signal" in my citation.
I'm guessing he's full of shit then. Yellow is there for a reason. It's a warning that the light is changing. But there's no rule that says you're supposed to stop at a yellow. Just anticipate whether you can safely travel through the intersection before cross traffic will get the green.
Contest it. Or at least go to court and discuss it with the judge.
capt kirk: Top ten reasons to stop the ACLU
You've got to be kidding. That's a pretty retarded list. Basically I'm seeing a lot of butthurt about when people get defended who the dumbass author doesn't like.
You've got to be kidding. That's a pretty retarded list. Basically I'm seeing a lot of butthurt about when people get defended who the dumbass author doesn't like.
untrustworthy: I'll roll down my window completely only if the cop asks. And I'm not admitting to jack shit, sparky.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
Or tow the car. Fact is, if you are nice the cop will be nice, also remember the cop can choose to write you a ticket or not.
And as far as this gem goes, "We stress to our troopers not to issue ‘attitude tickets,’ " says Lieutenant Hastings. - I'm gonna call bullshit particularly when this example: "I informed him I’d have to tow his vehicle for not having the required paperwork. He began to curse at me. After a brief inspection of the vehicle, he received seven tickets." is right before it.
In other words, fuck you Mr. Cop. If I've done something wrong, write me a ticket. Otherwise, go away.
Or tow the car. Fact is, if you are nice the cop will be nice, also remember the cop can choose to write you a ticket or not.
flashlv: Or tow the car. Fact is, if you are nice the cop will be nice, also remember the cop can choose to write you a ticket or not.
I'll show as much respect to the cop as he shows me. I'm not gonna kiss his ass just because he's got a piece of tin hanging from his shirt.
I'll show as much respect to the cop as he shows me. I'm not gonna kiss his ass just because he's got a piece of tin hanging from his shirt.
Missouri State Trooper: You were doing 68 in 55
Me: I was passing a car on a two lane highway
MST: Yeah, I saw that
Me: Can we talk about this?
MST: You let me finish writing this ticket and we can talk about anything you want
Me: *sigh*
Me: I was passing a car on a two lane highway
MST: Yeah, I saw that
Me: Can we talk about this?
MST: You let me finish writing this ticket and we can talk about anything you want
Me: *sigh*
i_am_jesus: good advice, except you should not admit to speeding or whatever, and you should only open the window enough to easily speak to the officer and hand documents through (maybe 4 or 5 inches). Any more than that and the cop can stick his head in and sniff/search around.
Also, If an officer ever asks you to get out of the car, make sure you lock it and put the keys in your pocket - this alone will prevent any unauthorized searches.
Actually just closing your car door is enough, locking it wouldn't add any layer of protection at all.
Also, If an officer ever asks you to get out of the car, make sure you lock it and put the keys in your pocket - this alone will prevent any unauthorized searches.
Actually just closing your car door is enough, locking it wouldn't add any layer of protection at all.
capt kirk: Top ten reasons to stop the ACLU
If you are really stupid enough to take anything on that list seriously then even me finding specific examples illustrating why that list is bullshit isnt going to change your mind.
If you are really stupid enough to take anything on that list seriously then even me finding specific examples illustrating why that list is bullshit isnt going to change your mind.
flashlv: Actually just closing your car door is enough, locking it wouldn't add any layer of protection at all.
Sure it will. Harder for a cop to open a locked door, no?
Sure it will. Harder for a cop to open a locked door, no?
untrustworthy: I'll show as much respect to the cop as he shows me. I'm not gonna kiss his ass just because he's got a piece of tin hanging from his shirt.
no one is saying that at all, not sure why you have to mention it. A cop is usually not going to give you an attitude either way for a traffic stop.
no one is saying that at all, not sure why you have to mention it. A cop is usually not going to give you an attitude either way for a traffic stop.
flashlv: Or tow the car. Fact is, if you are nice the cop will be nice, also remember the cop can choose to write you a ticket or not.
Unfortunately, there are too many stories where the cop ISN'T nice. Matter of fact, wasn't there a nice story earlier today about a couple of NY cops being "nice" to one of the highest ranked officers in NY?
Unfortunately, there are too many stories where the cop ISN'T nice. Matter of fact, wasn't there a nice story earlier today about a couple of NY cops being "nice" to one of the highest ranked officers in NY?
osirisothedead: “Roll down your window completely,” adds Sergeant Jones. “Nothing’s more frustrating than trying to speak through a slightly cracked window. If you only give me an inch-wide gap, you hinder my ability to determine your sobriety illegally snoop around your vehicle”
FTFY, Mr. Piggy.
What is illegal bout it?
FTFY, Mr. Piggy.
What is illegal bout it?
i_am_jesus: If you are really stupid enough to take anything on that list seriously then even me finding specific examples illustrating why that list is bullshit isnt going to change your mind.
Don't bother arguing with morons. Just tell them to go fuck themselves and be done with it.
Don't bother arguing with morons. Just tell them to go fuck themselves and be done with it.
flashlv: no one is saying that at all, not sure why you have to mention it. A cop is usually not going to give you an attitude either way for a traffic stop.
Usually my ass. I get cops with attitude all of the time. And I'm a pretty clean cut kinda guy. No piercings, tattoos, etc. I dress normal and look professional. But they still act like dicks.
Usually my ass. I get cops with attitude all of the time. And I'm a pretty clean cut kinda guy. No piercings, tattoos, etc. I dress normal and look professional. But they still act like dicks.
osirisothedead: Anyone who hates the ACLU is either an idiot or a fascist. Which branch do you fall under?
Not true at all. Anyone not respecting someones opinion to not like them is a fascist or an idiot.
Not true at all. Anyone not respecting someones opinion to not like them is a fascist or an idiot.
flashlv: Actually just closing your car door is enough, locking it wouldn't add any layer of protection at all.
it prevents the double question scenario - cop starts to open the door and says "you got anything to hid in here? Mind if I check?" all in one breath and then opens the door. Sure a judge might see through that, but I would prefer that If an officer wants access to my vehicle, he will have to jimmy the lock.
it prevents the double question scenario - cop starts to open the door and says "you got anything to hid in here? Mind if I check?" all in one breath and then opens the door. Sure a judge might see through that, but I would prefer that If an officer wants access to my vehicle, he will have to jimmy the lock.
flashlv: What is illegal bout it?
Unlawful search and seizure means no warrant, no search unless you consent to it. The cop wants to nose around your vehicle without getting your permission to do so.
Unlawful search and seizure means no warrant, no search unless you consent to it. The cop wants to nose around your vehicle without getting your permission to do so.
untrustworthy: Sure it will. Harder for a cop to open a locked door, no?
He can't search the car without probable cause or permission, a locked car isn't going to stop that.
/shrug
He can't search the car without probable cause or permission, a locked car isn't going to stop that.
/shrug
I like to keep my credentials all in a rectangle shaped man purse on my right side. Anytime I get pulled over, I wait until the officer comes to a complete stop, then I quickly (as to not anger him by making him wait) jump out of my car and run up to his driver's side door, while reaching for my license. Then I whip it out quickly (again, not wasting his time) and while yelling HEY OFFICER I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU RIGHT HERE! I display it to him through his window.
lol @ all the anti search comments. I always tell them "sure whatever" because I don't drive around with pot plants in my car. But the last time I did this, my tailights went out, I did have a gun in the glove box (which I told him about) that turned out to be HOT, but I didn't know it at the time, and my passenger had a meth pipe in his bag, I also didn't know at the time.
Lucky for us, the K9 unit took forever and it was cold, guy just let us go since we were like 1 mile from our destination on a 4 hour drive.
lol @ all the anti search comments. I always tell them "sure whatever" because I don't drive around with pot plants in my car. But the last time I did this, my tailights went out, I did have a gun in the glove box (which I told him about) that turned out to be HOT, but I didn't know it at the time, and my passenger had a meth pipe in his bag, I also didn't know at the time.
Lucky for us, the K9 unit took forever and it was cold, guy just let us go since we were like 1 mile from our destination on a 4 hour drive.
flashlv: Not true at all. Anyone not respecting someones opinion to not like them is a fascist or an idiot.
No, perfectly true. Anyone, absolutely anyone who dislikes the ACLU is either a fascist or an idiot. Period. End of story. There is nothing else to see here. Move along.
No, perfectly true. Anyone, absolutely anyone who dislikes the ACLU is either a fascist or an idiot. Period. End of story. There is nothing else to see here. Move along.
flashlv: He can't search the car without probable cause or permission, a locked car isn't going to stop that.
/shrug
Easier to prove that the cop didn't get permission if he has to either take my keys or break the window. Otherwise, it's his word against mine if he just opens the door on his own.
/shrug
Easier to prove that the cop didn't get permission if he has to either take my keys or break the window. Otherwise, it's his word against mine if he just opens the door on his own.
untrustworthy: Usually my ass. I get cops with attitude all of the time. And I'm a pretty clean cut kinda guy. No piercings, tattoos, etc. I dress normal and look professional. But they still act like dicks.
I have never gotten them with attitude, weird. Very weird. Maybe it's you?
I have never gotten them with attitude, weird. Very weird. Maybe it's you?
i_am_jesus: it prevents the double question scenario - cop starts to open the door and says "you got anything to hid in here? Mind if I check?" all in one breath and then opens the door. Sure a judge might see through that, but I would prefer that If an officer wants access to my vehicle, he will have to jimmy the lock.
That's a very rare thing they just open the door without probable cause. Or without permission and do what you said. Sure it happens, but don't give them a reason to make it happen.
That's a very rare thing they just open the door without probable cause. Or without permission and do what you said. Sure it happens, but don't give them a reason to make it happen.
flashlv: I have never gotten them with attitude, weird. Very weird. Maybe it's you?
You have to consider that language like "Zieg Heil, mein Fuhrer" is normal for you.
You have to consider that language like "Zieg Heil, mein Fuhrer" is normal for you.
flashlv: I have never gotten them with attitude, weird. Very weird. Maybe it's you?
Give me a good reason why. I don't provoke anything. Maybe being a foot taller than the cop happens to frustrate their short men syndrome?
Give me a good reason why. I don't provoke anything. Maybe being a foot taller than the cop happens to frustrate their short men syndrome?
osirisothedead: So it wasn't even a failure to stop. You definitely should have contested it, you got a bullshit ticket.
Yep, bullshit it was.
untrustworthy: I'm guessing he's full of shit then. Yellow is there for a reason. It's a warning that the light is changing. But there's no rule that says you're supposed to stop at a yellow. Just anticipate whether you can safely travel through the intersection before cross traffic will get the green.
Contest it. Or at least go to court and discuss it with the judge.
Too late, I already sent in the money. Didn't want to deal with the nonsense.
Yep, bullshit it was.
untrustworthy: I'm guessing he's full of shit then. Yellow is there for a reason. It's a warning that the light is changing. But there's no rule that says you're supposed to stop at a yellow. Just anticipate whether you can safely travel through the intersection before cross traffic will get the green.
Contest it. Or at least go to court and discuss it with the judge.
Too late, I already sent in the money. Didn't want to deal with the nonsense.
It is a total judgement call whether or not he will issue you a ticket.
There is an intersection on Roosevelt Blvd in Philadelphia with a notorisly short yellow. The speed limit is 45 and the cops love to stake it out to write easy tickets.
It was pouring down rain and I was driving a piece of shit cab with bald tires. The light clicked yellow/red in an instant. The guy ahead of me drove through and I followed him while skidding and hydroplaning, trying to stop. I failed and went through it. The cop caught up to us and went around me to pull over the other guy, even though I was 75 feet behind him when it happened.
There is an intersection on Roosevelt Blvd in Philadelphia with a notorisly short yellow. The speed limit is 45 and the cops love to stake it out to write easy tickets.
It was pouring down rain and I was driving a piece of shit cab with bald tires. The light clicked yellow/red in an instant. The guy ahead of me drove through and I followed him while skidding and hydroplaning, trying to stop. I failed and went through it. The cop caught up to us and went around me to pull over the other guy, even though I was 75 feet behind him when it happened.
osirisothedead: Unlawful search and seizure means no warrant, no search unless you consent to it. The cop wants to nose around your vehicle without getting your permission to do so.
Please show me how smelling is illegal search and seizure. I would LOVE to read that. I'll be here a while while you look.
Please show me how smelling is illegal search and seizure. I would LOVE to read that. I'll be here a while while you look.
Bummed: Too late, I already sent in the money. Didn't want to deal with the nonsense.
Oh well. Better luck next time.
Oh well. Better luck next time.
flashlv: I have never gotten them with attitude, weird. Very weird. Maybe it's you?
Of course not, because you're a good little fascist drone who probably likes getting searched by the cops. You probably consider it an honor, and take pride in spreading your cheeks for them. They love you.
Of course not, because you're a good little fascist drone who probably likes getting searched by the cops. You probably consider it an honor, and take pride in spreading your cheeks for them. They love you.
osirisothedead: No, perfectly true. Anyone, absolutely anyone who dislikes the ACLU is either a fascist or an idiot. Period. End of story. There is nothing else to see here. Move along.
That's your fascist opinion.
That's your fascist opinion.
flashlv: Please show me how smelling is illegal search and seizure. I would LOVE to read that. I'll be here a while while you look.
Nosing around a car when you don't have permission is an unlawful search.
I know you're constitutionally-challenged, do try to keep up.
Nosing around a car when you don't have permission is an unlawful search.
I know you're constitutionally-challenged, do try to keep up.
untrustworthy: Easier to prove that the cop didn't get permission if he has to either take my keys or break the window. Otherwise, it's his word against mine if he just opens the door on his own.
Many police departments require a signature if they are given permission. So there is none of that. Don't give them a reason to get out of the car, and you won't have that problem.
Many police departments require a signature if they are given permission. So there is none of that. Don't give them a reason to get out of the car, and you won't have that problem.
I am going to play FlashLV...
"If you get pulled over, it's your fault. You probably have drugs. A cop would NEVER issue frivolous citations just to meet his quota!"
"If you get pulled over, it's your fault. You probably have drugs. A cop would NEVER issue frivolous citations just to meet his quota!"
canusa: Missouri State Trooper: You were doing 68 in 55
Me: I was passing a car on a two lane highway
MST: Yeah, I saw that
Me: Can we talk about this?
MST: You let me finish writing this ticket and we can talk about anything you want
Me: *sigh*
In almost every state it's legal to exceed the speed limit to make a pass on a two-lane road. In states with maximum it's generally 20mph over the general speed limit.
I really hope you contested that shit.
Me: I was passing a car on a two lane highway
MST: Yeah, I saw that
Me: Can we talk about this?
MST: You let me finish writing this ticket and we can talk about anything you want
Me: *sigh*
In almost every state it's legal to exceed the speed limit to make a pass on a two-lane road. In states with maximum it's generally 20mph over the general speed limit.
I really hope you contested that shit.
osirisothedead: You have to consider that language like "Zieg Heil, mein Fuhrer" is normal for you.
I see you resort to trolling when you can't get me upset. Nice show man.
I see you resort to trolling when you can't get me upset. Nice show man.
flashlv: Many police departments require a signature if they are given permission. So there is none of that. Don't give them a reason to get out of the car, and you won't have that problem.
I don't give them reason to do jack shit. Doesn't mean I'm gonna leave my window wide open or my door unlocked.
I don't give them reason to do jack shit. Doesn't mean I'm gonna leave my window wide open or my door unlocked.
twiztedjustin:
lol @ all the anti search comments. I always tell them "sure whatever"
twiztedjustin:
my tailights went out, I did have a gun in the glove box (which I told him about) that turned out to be HOT, but I didn't know it at the time, and my passenger had a meth pipe in his bag
....yah, that's why you say no.
lol @ all the anti search comments. I always tell them "sure whatever"
twiztedjustin:
my tailights went out, I did have a gun in the glove box (which I told him about) that turned out to be HOT, but I didn't know it at the time, and my passenger had a meth pipe in his bag
....yah, that's why you say no.
flashlv: I see you resort to trolling when you can't get me upset. Nice show man.
Trolling? Whatever. You're an authoritarian. You value the "rights" of authority over regular citizens, and it shows with every post.
Trolling? Whatever. You're an authoritarian. You value the "rights" of authority over regular citizens, and it shows with every post.
flashlv: That's a very rare thing they just open the door without probable cause. Or without permission and do what you said. Sure it happens, but don't give them a reason to make it happen.
Very rare is not the same thing as "never". They aren't allowed to do it if you don't consent.
If you lock the doors, they cannot accidentally "not hear" or "misunderstand" your nonconsent.
From that point on, there is no question about consent. If you have the keys in your pocket, and say no with a locked door, they cannot get in.
Very rare is not the same thing as "never". They aren't allowed to do it if you don't consent.
If you lock the doors, they cannot accidentally "not hear" or "misunderstand" your nonconsent.
From that point on, there is no question about consent. If you have the keys in your pocket, and say no with a locked door, they cannot get in.
untrustworthy: Give me a good reason why. I don't provoke anything. Maybe being a foot taller than the cop happens to frustrate their short men syndrome?
Most cops I know are over 6 foot, so many not be a problem here.
The last 3 times I was pulled over I gave attitude, wanted to see the radar, the cop let me and no attitude at all.
The cop with the radar almost made me shit my pants when the 100lb german shepard barked in my ear 2 feet away in the middle of the night. ;)
Most cops I know are over 6 foot, so many not be a problem here.
The last 3 times I was pulled over I gave attitude, wanted to see the radar, the cop let me and no attitude at all.
The cop with the radar almost made me shit my pants when the 100lb german shepard barked in my ear 2 feet away in the middle of the night. ;)