Who did you vote for and why?
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bxrwxr: What's with all the anonymous posting? You should be proud that you voted and whom you voted for.
Shame on you all for helping be the anonymous cancer killing bN.
Secret ballots are a point of pride in the United States. You get a more honest vote if no one knows how you vote.
Shame on you all for helping be the anonymous cancer killing bN.
Secret ballots are a point of pride in the United States. You get a more honest vote if no one knows how you vote.
I changed to Obama while my husband went for Bob Barr. Bob Barr's abortion stance turned me off. My husband remains third party. - Faethe
In reality, I voted for Obama at 7:00am... and the line was longer than I've ever seen it. In NJ, where no one's votes mattered. Almost out the door.
No one. The polls aren't open yet.
Obama. I think he has a better idea on many issues and actually grasps at the root of the problems, rather than putting bandaids on top on bandaids on top of bandaids.
If grahams is about, could we get a sticky thread for election-related gubbins today?
Voted for Obama a week and a half ago. He's not perfect, but he's the best I can recall seeing.
I just got back from voting.
Obama/Biden +1.
Harper +1.
Time for a little change, says I.
Obama/Biden +1.
Harper +1.
Time for a little change, says I.
I waited in line to vote at 6am in Johnson Co. Kansas. I did the right thing and voted for Obama.
someone who may or may not be CaliforniaBeachGuy
2008-11-04 04:39:42.0
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Obama - not that I agree with every policy, but I do believe he's the one who will generate CHANGE.
The conviction of his campaign is much more Presidential and I think that conviction will win a lot of people over in the future. I think he'll get the USA back in to International favor and call me stupid, but that is hoooge.
The conviction of his campaign is much more Presidential and I think that conviction will win a lot of people over in the future. I think he'll get the USA back in to International favor and call me stupid, but that is hoooge.
someone who may or may not be afraid of bn mob
2008-11-04 04:41:52.0
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McCain
What's with all the anonymous posting? You should be proud that you voted and whom you voted for.
Shame on you all for helping be the anonymous cancer killing bN.
Shame on you all for helping be the anonymous cancer killing bN.
Its too bad this thread was in limbo while I made up another thread.
Anyway, for Obama/dems(and one indy), against all incumbents, and against the gay marriage ban.
I hope I get to see a freepers head explode today.
Anyway, for Obama/dems(and one indy), against all incumbents, and against the gay marriage ban.
I hope I get to see a freepers head explode today.
Barack Obama, because I'm tired of the GOP fucking everything up.
someone who may or may not be anon
2008-11-04 04:45:01.0
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McCain
I got in line at 6am - voted about 6:45 - 30-45 people ahead of me by the time the doors opened, probably 100 behind me.
I voted Obama. Why? I don't see McCain getting it done and I see Obama as someone who can truly unite.
I voted Obama. Why? I don't see McCain getting it done and I see Obama as someone who can truly unite.
gradivus: Its too bad this thread was in limbo while I made up another thread.
Anyway, for Obama/dems(and one indy), against all incumbents, and against the gay marriage ban.
I hope I get to see a freepers head explode today.
Ha! That was about the same logic I used.
Anyway, for Obama/dems(and one indy), against all incumbents, and against the gay marriage ban.
I hope I get to see a freepers head explode today.
Ha! That was about the same logic I used.
I'll be voting for a friend of mine who's running in a local election.
I'm probably not going to bother casting a vote for president. I dislike both of the candidates, and my vote doesn't matter anyway as I'm in Illinois. I may vote for McCain, but it's unlikely.
All of the Obama love makes me want to vomit. Yes, I know he makes everyone feel good and we all want change. Nobody's not sick of what we've got now, but I've seen what he's done in my state, and I'm not impressed. People have gotten themselves way too hyped up about him. He's just another Chicago sleazebag.
I'm probably not going to bother casting a vote for president. I dislike both of the candidates, and my vote doesn't matter anyway as I'm in Illinois. I may vote for McCain, but it's unlikely.
All of the Obama love makes me want to vomit. Yes, I know he makes everyone feel good and we all want change. Nobody's not sick of what we've got now, but I've seen what he's done in my state, and I'm not impressed. People have gotten themselves way too hyped up about him. He's just another Chicago sleazebag.
mcbain
someone who may or may not be afraid of bn mob
2008-11-04 04:49:18.0
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government fromage: I'll be voting for a friend of mine who's running in a local election.
I'm probably not going to bother casting a vote for president. I dislike both of the candidates, and my vote doesn't matter anyway as I'm in Illinois. I may vote for McCain, but it's unlikely.
All of the Obama love makes me want to vomit. Yes, I know he makes everyone feel good and we all want change. Nobody's not sick of what we've got now, but I've seen what he's done in my state, and I'm not impressed. People have gotten themselves way too hyped up about him. He's just another Chicago sleazebag.
Get ready for a beatdown. Cult members don't like it when you say not nice things about their leader.
I'm probably not going to bother casting a vote for president. I dislike both of the candidates, and my vote doesn't matter anyway as I'm in Illinois. I may vote for McCain, but it's unlikely.
All of the Obama love makes me want to vomit. Yes, I know he makes everyone feel good and we all want change. Nobody's not sick of what we've got now, but I've seen what he's done in my state, and I'm not impressed. People have gotten themselves way too hyped up about him. He's just another Chicago sleazebag.
Get ready for a beatdown. Cult members don't like it when you say not nice things about their leader.
bxrwxr: What's with all the anonymous posting? You should be proud that you voted and whom you voted for.
Shame on you all for helping be the anonymous cancer killing bN.
Voting in the U.S. is anonymous. That's a constitutional right.
/every time you flame, bN tries to kill the Constitution. Won't you think of the Constitution?
Shame on you all for helping be the anonymous cancer killing bN.
Voting in the U.S. is anonymous. That's a constitutional right.
/every time you flame, bN tries to kill the Constitution. Won't you think of the Constitution?
intentionally left blank: Voting in the U.S. is anonymous. That's a constitutional right.
/every time you flame, bN tries to kill the Constitution. Won't you think of the Constitution?
Yes it is. That wasn't my point.
/every time you flame, bN tries to kill the Constitution. Won't you think of the Constitution?
Yes it is. That wasn't my point.
government fromage: Nobody's not sick of what we've got now, but I've seen what he's done in my state, and I'm not impressed. People have gotten themselves way too hyped up about him. He's just another Chicago sleazebag.
Maybe you're the reason Illinois sucks, did you think of that?
Maybe you're the reason Illinois sucks, did you think of that?
chaos: I voted Obama. Why? I don't see McCain getting it done and I see Obama as someone who can truly unite.
McCain has at least been somewhat known for working across party lines. Obama (especially here in Illinois) not so much. I really fail to see how trading a right wing nutjob in Bush for a pretty far leftist is going to do anything to unite the country. It's just going to piss off a different group.
McCain has at least been somewhat known for working across party lines. Obama (especially here in Illinois) not so much. I really fail to see how trading a right wing nutjob in Bush for a pretty far leftist is going to do anything to unite the country. It's just going to piss off a different group.
someone who may or may not be afraid of bn mob
2008-11-04 04:53:08.0
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trigonman3: Secret ballots are a point of pride in the United States. You get a more honest vote if no one knows how you vote.
That's why it has to be outlawed for electing unions. Just ask Chicago Obama.
That's why it has to be outlawed for electing unions. Just ask Chicago Obama.
trigonman3: Secret ballots are a point of pride in the United States. You get a more honest vote if no one knows how you vote.
But once you have voted it's OK to say whom you voted for.
Once the ballot is in the box, you can't downvote. And only political hacks worry about the repercussions of whom they did or did not vote for.
But once you have voted it's OK to say whom you voted for.
Once the ballot is in the box, you can't downvote. And only political hacks worry about the repercussions of whom they did or did not vote for.
gradivus: There are 10 other people running for president.
Yeah, there are. Are any a viable vote, though? If a candidate has 0% chance of winning I feel like voting for them is a waste.
Yeah, there are. Are any a viable vote, though? If a candidate has 0% chance of winning I feel like voting for them is a waste.
government fromage: McCain has at least been somewhat known for working across party lines. Obama (especially here in Illinois) not so much. I really fail to see how trading a right wing nutjob in Bush for a pretty far leftist is going to do anything to unite the country. It's just going to piss off a different group.
Anyone to the left of Mussolini(or anyone who doesnt 100% tow the republican line) is considered a bleeding heart liberal in America.
Anyone to the left of Mussolini(or anyone who doesnt 100% tow the republican line) is considered a bleeding heart liberal in America.
government fromage: McCain has at least been somewhat known for working across party lines. Obama (especially here in Illinois) not so much. I really fail to see how trading a right wing nutjob in Bush for a pretty far leftist is going to do anything to unite the country. It's just going to piss off a different group.
I don't live in Illinois - maybe you should have gone on the news.
Here's the thing - 8yrs ago McCain runs for election NOW, he probably gets my vote. The dude has changed way too much for me just to pander for neo-con votes and I don't believe HE as President will be doing things HE wants to do. I think he sold his soul.
So, yes he did reach across party lines at some point, but I don't like what I've seen in the past 5yrs from him. Obama maybe doesn't have that record from your perspective (not saying you're wrong) but since he's been in the Senate he's reach across party lines and that is what I've seen.
I don't live in Illinois - maybe you should have gone on the news.
Here's the thing - 8yrs ago McCain runs for election NOW, he probably gets my vote. The dude has changed way too much for me just to pander for neo-con votes and I don't believe HE as President will be doing things HE wants to do. I think he sold his soul.
So, yes he did reach across party lines at some point, but I don't like what I've seen in the past 5yrs from him. Obama maybe doesn't have that record from your perspective (not saying you're wrong) but since he's been in the Senate he's reach across party lines and that is what I've seen.
afraid of bn mob: That's why it has to be outlawed for electing unions. Just ask Chicago Obama.
You know we're going to mob you anonymous or not, FlashLV
Also, if the mobbing has materialized in this thread yet, I haven't seen it
You know we're going to mob you anonymous or not, FlashLV
Also, if the mobbing has materialized in this thread yet, I haven't seen it
government fromage: Yeah, there are. Are any a viable vote, though? If a candidate has 0% chance of winning I feel like voting for them is a waste.
Its definitely a waste if you dont vote. In reality the only people whos vote matters is the person that puts a candidate just ONE vote past a tie.
Its definitely a waste if you dont vote. In reality the only people whos vote matters is the person that puts a candidate just ONE vote past a tie.
afraid of bn mob: That's why it has to be outlawed for electing unions. Just ask Chicago Obama.
Well, hell, now you tell me! I'll just ignore my concurrent views on energy policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and the overall thoughtfulness of Obama and run with McCain because I agree with him on one point.
Where were you two weeks ago, anonypansy! I regret it all now! *sob*
Well, hell, now you tell me! I'll just ignore my concurrent views on energy policy, fiscal policy, foreign policy and the overall thoughtfulness of Obama and run with McCain because I agree with him on one point.
Where were you two weeks ago, anonypansy! I regret it all now! *sob*
government fromage: Yeah, there are. Are any a viable vote, though? If a candidate has 0% chance of winning I feel like voting for them is a waste.
I don't know if this gets done in the US, but in the UK the protest vote is disected over the next week or so as the parties (winners and losers) to understand where and why they lost swing votes.
I don't know if this gets done in the US, but in the UK the protest vote is disected over the next week or so as the parties (winners and losers) to understand where and why they lost swing votes.
government fromage: Yeah, there are. Are any a viable vote, though? If a candidate has 0% chance of winning I feel like voting for them is a waste.
government fromage: I dislike both of the candidates, and my vote doesn't matter anyway as I'm in Illinois.
It seems as if you feel your vote is a waste anyway, especially if you are toying around with the idea of not voting at all.
Choose a third party candidate you like, pull their lever. Unf unf unf.
government fromage: I dislike both of the candidates, and my vote doesn't matter anyway as I'm in Illinois.
It seems as if you feel your vote is a waste anyway, especially if you are toying around with the idea of not voting at all.
Choose a third party candidate you like, pull their lever. Unf unf unf.
Nobody yet. But it'll be Obama. Reasons? To start, I'm not a fascist, fundamentalist, fatcat, or fucking idiot.
Even though he's not perfect, I like most of his positions, and he has the diplomatic temperament, intellectual acumen, and good advisor selection that we need in a president, especially right now.
Even though he's not perfect, I like most of his positions, and he has the diplomatic temperament, intellectual acumen, and good advisor selection that we need in a president, especially right now.
chaos: I don't live in Illinois - maybe you should have gone on the news.
Here's the thing - 8yrs ago McCain runs for election NOW, he probably gets my vote. The dude has changed way too much for me just to pander for neo-con votes and I don't believe HE as President will be doing things HE wants to do. I think he sold his soul.
So, yes he did reach across party lines at some point, but I don't like what I've seen in the past 5yrs from him. Obama maybe doesn't have that record from your perspective (not saying you're wrong) but since he's been in the Senate he's reach across party lines and that is what I've seen.
That's why I'm not impressed with McCain either.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
Here's the thing - 8yrs ago McCain runs for election NOW, he probably gets my vote. The dude has changed way too much for me just to pander for neo-con votes and I don't believe HE as President will be doing things HE wants to do. I think he sold his soul.
So, yes he did reach across party lines at some point, but I don't like what I've seen in the past 5yrs from him. Obama maybe doesn't have that record from your perspective (not saying you're wrong) but since he's been in the Senate he's reach across party lines and that is what I've seen.
That's why I'm not impressed with McCain either.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
For Obama. Against every incumbent, regardless of party (except for the county sheriff...) Voted against having verbage concerning casinos put into the State Constitution. Douchenozzles.
government fromage: That's why I'm not impressed with McCain either.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
Just stay away from Grant Park and Butler Field tonight and you'll be fine.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
Just stay away from Grant Park and Butler Field tonight and you'll be fine.
gradivus: Anyone to the left of Mussolini(or anyone who doesnt 100% tow the republican line) is considered a bleeding heart liberal in America.
This. I'm very slightly left of center, and my thinking would have me branded a commie by half the drooling morons out there.
This. I'm very slightly left of center, and my thinking would have me branded a commie by half the drooling morons out there.
someone who may or may not be anon
2008-11-04 04:59:00.0
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government fromage: That's why I'm not impressed with McCain either.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
You're just worried that the socialists are going to hand out state-sponsored cheese to all the kids.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
You're just worried that the socialists are going to hand out state-sponsored cheese to all the kids.
gradivus: Anti-freeper five
Sadly, the only state (issue/amendment/whatever they call it in FL) that I had any really feeling for was the gay marriage ban, that was a no-brainer to vote against.
Sadly, the only state (issue/amendment/whatever they call it in FL) that I had any really feeling for was the gay marriage ban, that was a no-brainer to vote against.
government fromage: That's why I'm not impressed with McCain either.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
haha.. that would be GREAT.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
haha.. that would be GREAT.
gradivus: Anyone to the left of Mussolini(or anyone who doesnt 100% tow the republican line) is considered a bleeding heart liberal in America.
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jesus: For Obama. Against every incumbent, regardless of party (except for the county sheriff...) Voted against having verbage concerning casinos put into the State Constitution. Douchenozzles.
Calling all NEOCONS... Jesus just voted for Obama!
Calling all NEOCONS... Jesus just voted for Obama!
I, like, voted fro Obama because my black boyfriend told me he'd break up with me if I didn't.
LOL fro Obama
Superman, Batman, Aquaman and the one candidate running against an incumbent for school board.
bxrwxr: Just stay away from Grant Park and Butler Field tonight and you'll be fine.
Funny thing is I've been to see him speak a couple of times. It's very interesting the effect he has on people. Even if you don't agree with a lot of what he says , you up walking away like.... wow.
Funny thing is I've been to see him speak a couple of times. It's very interesting the effect he has on people. Even if you don't agree with a lot of what he says , you up walking away like.... wow.
worldbeater: This. I'm very slightly left of center, and my thinking would have me branded a commie by half the drooling morons out there.
I'm northeast of center on the bN political aggregate, and I still get called libbie/y(?).
I'm northeast of center on the bN political aggregate, and I still get called libbie/y(?).
gradivus: Are you sure? I thought it was "tow the line" as in "pull the rope".
"toe the line": conform
"toe the line": conform
selectivedisclosure: I, like, voted fro Obama because my black boyfriend told me he'd break up with me if I didn't.
black people stealing our wommens and presidents :(
black people stealing our wommens and presidents :(
government fromage:
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
There's a good little optimist!! ;)
\haven't caught you around for a while. gtsy
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
There's a good little optimist!! ;)
\haven't caught you around for a while. gtsy
supergrover: There's a good little optimist!! ;)
\haven't caught you around for a while. gtsy
I've been kind of laying low. Political bickering annoys me to no end, and that's all I've seen for the last 6 weeks lol
\haven't caught you around for a while. gtsy
I've been kind of laying low. Political bickering annoys me to no end, and that's all I've seen for the last 6 weeks lol
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government fromage: That's why I'm not impressed with McCain either.
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
Maybe that'll...be...SHITCAWK! WHARRGARBL hurrr HURRR!
On the plus side, with all the excitement over Obama, maybe people will be a little less biatchy around here when he wins.
Maybe that'll...be...SHITCAWK! WHARRGARBL hurrr HURRR!
Just got back from voting. Got there about 6:05 (polls opened at 6:00), and the total wait was about half an hour.
chaos: Calling all NEOCONS... Jesus just voted for Obama!
What else would you expect from someone who splits his time between Chicago and New Orleans?
What else would you expect from someone who splits his time between Chicago and New Orleans?
The Anonymous Instigator: I changed to Obama while my husband went for Bob Barr. Bob Barr's abortion stance turned me off. My husband remains third party. - Faethe
And McCain thanks your husband.
And McCain thanks your husband.
anon: You're just worried that the socialists are going to hand out state-sponsored cheese to all the kids.
You'd think they'd have some kind of phrase to describe such an action.
You'd think they'd have some kind of phrase to describe such an action.
I got there around 6:20, 45th in line. Polls opened @ 7, I was out by 7:30, there were ~300 in line.
I voted Obama/Biden, and the following (non-inclusive) Atlanta, Georgia races:
Part I Part II Part III Part IV
I voted Obama/Biden, and the following (non-inclusive) Atlanta, Georgia races:
Part I Part II Part III Part IV
worldbeater: What else would you expect from someone who splits his time between Chicago and New Orleans?
anal?
anal?
When the polls open here, Ima gonna vote Obama.
If I were a US citizen, I'd be voting for Obama. Since I'm just a permanent resident, I'm making sure all of my Obama-leaning friends make it out to vote.
Here's my rant from [insert gay social networking site]...
So, today I get to vote. I am voting for the terrorist fist-bumping Muslim atheist chainsmoking cokehead socialist African-American Arab, and here's why, in one sentence, with elaboration to follow.
He's a Constitutional scholar and seasoned, successful politician who possesses intelligence and knowledge that I feel would be better applied to managing the current state of our nation than some bitter old man knocking at death's door and his insane, creationist, trophy running mate who'd fit in better at any rotary club rather than in government office.
And really, in one word, all I want is this: Change. Not the often-mocked 'change' that seems abstract and magical. I don't expect a President Obama to shit rainbows that cure cancer and taste like ice cream. By change, I mean getting the totally incompetent Republican Party out of the executive branch of our federal government, at least for a while, because they have fucked things up so bad that I feel like if we don't do something right, and soon, we are going to be in more dire straights than we already are.
And in the last few weeks, McCain has been pretty frightening. Putting abortion, stem cells, the death penalty, and all those other stupid hot-button wedge issues that don't affect me aside, there are two 'McCain Plans' that really scare the shit out of me personally. First of all, his $5000 'tax credit' plan for private insurance. The plan, as it is sold, is great. Here is, paraphrased, how it is sold: "You get a $5000 tax credit to pay for a personal health insurance plan.
"
Sounds pretty fucking awesome, huh? However, when you examine this plan, it turns out to be more of the same Republican bullshit concepts that are named one thing and do the exact opposite. Because guess what pays for this 'tax cut'? Taxing employee benefits! How any thinking person can not see this as an obvious bait-and-switch that will fuck over any working-class individual is beyond me. Have any of you ever been unemployed or self-employed, and had to foot your own bill %100 to get coverage? Or even read of the experiences of people in this boat? Even if this plan is designed to help the uninsured, it won't. Paying for your own insurance is even more expensive than the combined cost of what you and your employer pay when you are on a benefit plan, because at least your employee plan is calculated under a group discount the insurance company used to win over your company. I calculated what would happen in the event the McCain 'health insurance tax credit' became a reality, and if my employer were to decide to drop its benefit program because they didn't feel like paying taxes and all the employees now had a tax credit, my $5000 credit would cover me for EIGHT MONTHS. That means an additional $2500 dollars of my currently disposable income for the year would have to be reallocated to cover my personal insurance plan. This isn't only a shitty idea because of the increase in taxes, potential loss of coverage, etc..., but this would also have horrible consequences on the economy, because that's $2500 less dollars I have to spend on goods and services that help workers not currently in the booming, overpriced insurance industry.
His other awesome plan, though not as detailed, is his recent promise to... buy all the bad mortgages in America so people 'don't lose their homes and can live the American dream'? I mean, that's a nice sentiment and all, but those people need to go back to renting if they can't afford their house, and more importantly, THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES WHO GAVE LOANS TO PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD THEM SHOULD BE PENALIZED, NOT REWARDED. I mean Jesus Christ, are these people fucking retarded? I don't think I'd be entirely against some form of help for the homeowners, but the solution is most definitely NOT giving a handout to the lenders who got greedy and fucked up.
I must admit, I think the Republican Party has fucked up so bad, I just want them out. But ultimately, I am voting for Obama for positive reasons. I like that he comes off as elite. I don't want a President who spends his free time clearing brush or referring to everyone he meets with a phony, disingenuous "My Friends". I want a President who is going to lead, him or her self, based on his or her own ideals and principals, not be 'managed', as Bush has clearly been by his circling band of advisors with motives and agendas that hurt the country for their own personal gain. McCain has come off the same way during his campaign, from his VP pick down to his most recent 'Obama is/isn't a socialist'. I want a President who picks smart people for cabinet positions, not party loyalist horse cock judges who are owed a favor whose incompetence will lead to people dying unnecessarily in the next natural disaster. I want an educated thinker, not my friend from Friday happy hour.
And just to clarify, I don't hate 'Republicans'. Obviously, many people have many friends who don't hold the same political opinions, and it's great that we live in a country where we are free to be of whatever opinion we are inclined, without having to worry about serious repercussions for those opinions. However, I do hate the Republican Party, because they have become, and continue to be, the exact opposite of everything they stand for. They claim to be fiscally responsible, but our national deficit has more than doubled, DOUBLED, over the past 8 years. Yes, the Bush Administration has managed to spend as much money in 8 years as America did, cumulatively, in it's previous 200+ years. Republicans claim to be for small government, yet they throw this philosophy right out the window when they want to pry into a woman's doctor appointment where she's told that carrying her fetus to term is likely to be fatal, or when the government wants to pry into your telephone calls without a warrant, or when the government wants to detain you without charges or legal representation, indefinitely, without telling anyone, or even telling you why. The thing that makes me mad really is that this is the party that claims to be for freedom and the working class, and all they do is eviscerate freedom at every opportunity, and put a boot on the neck of the working class for the benefit of big corporations in the name of 'capitalism'. And it pisses me off that people who I love or consider friends fall for this. And I'm by no means a Democrat, I have plenty of problems with their party too, however with the Republican Party, I feel like this is the part of the story where the kid yells out "But he's naked!", because for the last 8 years, all they've been selling is shit that isn't real.
So, yeah, I'm ready for the dreaded "Change" in the form of the terrorist Muslim black Anti-Christ guy, who actually seems to give a shit about helping normal American families. If he wins and turns out to suck, I'll be happy to admit it, but it's time to give someone else a chance, and Obama's platform actually serves the interest of a middle class American like me far better than the ideas of the crazy old guy and the prom queen who take advice from fake plumbers. Fake plumbers who lie about wanting to buy their business, that doesn't even earn enough money to make the point that they're lying to argue about valid.
Oh well. At least today, it will finally be settled, and the two-year election cycle will be over. I know I'm not changing anyone's mind, I just had to vent.
So, today I get to vote. I am voting for the terrorist fist-bumping Muslim atheist chainsmoking cokehead socialist African-American Arab, and here's why, in one sentence, with elaboration to follow.
He's a Constitutional scholar and seasoned, successful politician who possesses intelligence and knowledge that I feel would be better applied to managing the current state of our nation than some bitter old man knocking at death's door and his insane, creationist, trophy running mate who'd fit in better at any rotary club rather than in government office.
And really, in one word, all I want is this: Change. Not the often-mocked 'change' that seems abstract and magical. I don't expect a President Obama to shit rainbows that cure cancer and taste like ice cream. By change, I mean getting the totally incompetent Republican Party out of the executive branch of our federal government, at least for a while, because they have fucked things up so bad that I feel like if we don't do something right, and soon, we are going to be in more dire straights than we already are.
And in the last few weeks, McCain has been pretty frightening. Putting abortion, stem cells, the death penalty, and all those other stupid hot-button wedge issues that don't affect me aside, there are two 'McCain Plans' that really scare the shit out of me personally. First of all, his $5000 'tax credit' plan for private insurance. The plan, as it is sold, is great. Here is, paraphrased, how it is sold: "You get a $5000 tax credit to pay for a personal health insurance plan.
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Sounds pretty fucking awesome, huh? However, when you examine this plan, it turns out to be more of the same Republican bullshit concepts that are named one thing and do the exact opposite. Because guess what pays for this 'tax cut'? Taxing employee benefits! How any thinking person can not see this as an obvious bait-and-switch that will fuck over any working-class individual is beyond me. Have any of you ever been unemployed or self-employed, and had to foot your own bill %100 to get coverage? Or even read of the experiences of people in this boat? Even if this plan is designed to help the uninsured, it won't. Paying for your own insurance is even more expensive than the combined cost of what you and your employer pay when you are on a benefit plan, because at least your employee plan is calculated under a group discount the insurance company used to win over your company. I calculated what would happen in the event the McCain 'health insurance tax credit' became a reality, and if my employer were to decide to drop its benefit program because they didn't feel like paying taxes and all the employees now had a tax credit, my $5000 credit would cover me for EIGHT MONTHS. That means an additional $2500 dollars of my currently disposable income for the year would have to be reallocated to cover my personal insurance plan. This isn't only a shitty idea because of the increase in taxes, potential loss of coverage, etc..., but this would also have horrible consequences on the economy, because that's $2500 less dollars I have to spend on goods and services that help workers not currently in the booming, overpriced insurance industry.
His other awesome plan, though not as detailed, is his recent promise to... buy all the bad mortgages in America so people 'don't lose their homes and can live the American dream'? I mean, that's a nice sentiment and all, but those people need to go back to renting if they can't afford their house, and more importantly, THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES WHO GAVE LOANS TO PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD THEM SHOULD BE PENALIZED, NOT REWARDED. I mean Jesus Christ, are these people fucking retarded? I don't think I'd be entirely against some form of help for the homeowners, but the solution is most definitely NOT giving a handout to the lenders who got greedy and fucked up.
I must admit, I think the Republican Party has fucked up so bad, I just want them out. But ultimately, I am voting for Obama for positive reasons. I like that he comes off as elite. I don't want a President who spends his free time clearing brush or referring to everyone he meets with a phony, disingenuous "My Friends". I want a President who is going to lead, him or her self, based on his or her own ideals and principals, not be 'managed', as Bush has clearly been by his circling band of advisors with motives and agendas that hurt the country for their own personal gain. McCain has come off the same way during his campaign, from his VP pick down to his most recent 'Obama is/isn't a socialist'. I want a President who picks smart people for cabinet positions, not party loyalist horse cock judges who are owed a favor whose incompetence will lead to people dying unnecessarily in the next natural disaster. I want an educated thinker, not my friend from Friday happy hour.
And just to clarify, I don't hate 'Republicans'. Obviously, many people have many friends who don't hold the same political opinions, and it's great that we live in a country where we are free to be of whatever opinion we are inclined, without having to worry about serious repercussions for those opinions. However, I do hate the Republican Party, because they have become, and continue to be, the exact opposite of everything they stand for. They claim to be fiscally responsible, but our national deficit has more than doubled, DOUBLED, over the past 8 years. Yes, the Bush Administration has managed to spend as much money in 8 years as America did, cumulatively, in it's previous 200+ years. Republicans claim to be for small government, yet they throw this philosophy right out the window when they want to pry into a woman's doctor appointment where she's told that carrying her fetus to term is likely to be fatal, or when the government wants to pry into your telephone calls without a warrant, or when the government wants to detain you without charges or legal representation, indefinitely, without telling anyone, or even telling you why. The thing that makes me mad really is that this is the party that claims to be for freedom and the working class, and all they do is eviscerate freedom at every opportunity, and put a boot on the neck of the working class for the benefit of big corporations in the name of 'capitalism'. And it pisses me off that people who I love or consider friends fall for this. And I'm by no means a Democrat, I have plenty of problems with their party too, however with the Republican Party, I feel like this is the part of the story where the kid yells out "But he's naked!", because for the last 8 years, all they've been selling is shit that isn't real.
So, yeah, I'm ready for the dreaded "Change" in the form of the terrorist Muslim black Anti-Christ guy, who actually seems to give a shit about helping normal American families. If he wins and turns out to suck, I'll be happy to admit it, but it's time to give someone else a chance, and Obama's platform actually serves the interest of a middle class American like me far better than the ideas of the crazy old guy and the prom queen who take advice from fake plumbers. Fake plumbers who lie about wanting to buy their business, that doesn't even earn enough money to make the point that they're lying to argue about valid.
Oh well. At least today, it will finally be settled, and the two-year election cycle will be over. I know I'm not changing anyone's mind, I just had to vent.
My fiance got tickets to the Obama rally tonight in Grant Park. He also got the day off today. I fucking hate him right now. =( I don't get to go b/c I'm not in Chicago right now. Bastard!!!!!
Just got back - for the first time in my life I voted a straight party line ticket with the Democrats. I'm going to go take a very hot shower now...
intentionally left blank: Where else am I gonna be able to use all this crap but in this thread?
How about 90% of the threads for the next week?
How about 90% of the threads for the next week?
phish tahko: How about 90% of the threads for the next week?
...and then, they'll slowly fade into oblivion. Like a supernova. Leaving a tiny core of ultra-dense hatred behind.
...and then, they'll slowly fade into oblivion. Like a supernova. Leaving a tiny core of ultra-dense hatred behind.
phish tahko: How about 90% of the threads for the next week?
That all depends on who wins. If the election goes over to the dark side, it'll be 90% of the threads for the next 4 years.
That all depends on who wins. If the election goes over to the dark side, it'll be 90% of the threads for the next 4 years.
action replay nick: Here's my rant from [insert gay social networking site]...
Holy shit, you were my lib hero on Fark.com
When'd you show up on bN?
Holy shit, you were my lib hero on Fark.com
When'd you show up on bN?
phish tahko: How about 90% of the threads for the next week?
Nah. I think the only one that's going to have any staying power is the captioned debate graphic with Biden and Palin about her daughter.
The rest of bN for the remainder of the week will likely just be "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" posted in different ways.
Nah. I think the only one that's going to have any staying power is the captioned debate graphic with Biden and Palin about her daughter.
The rest of bN for the remainder of the week will likely just be "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" posted in different ways.
mtman900: In reality, I voted for Obama at 7:00am... and the line was longer than I've ever seen it. In NJ, where no one's votes mattered. Almost out the door.
That's what I'll be doing in about an hour.
(Bergen Country NJ)
So many McCain/Palin lawn signs in my hood.
That's what I'll be doing in about an hour.
(Bergen Country NJ)
So many McCain/Palin lawn signs in my hood.
mtman900: Holy shit, you were my lib hero on Fark.com
When'd you show up on bN?
Considering he has a user # of 44, a very long time ago.
When'd you show up on bN?
Considering he has a user # of 44, a very long time ago.
mtman900: Holy shit, you were my lib hero on Fark.com
When'd you show up on bN?
Looking at his account number, his e-penis is bigger than both of ours combined.
When'd you show up on bN?
Looking at his account number, his e-penis is bigger than both of ours combined.
If you logged in, you could post here.