This is why we need government regulation on food products.



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action replay nick 44 2010-02-08 08:36:18.0 login to vote score 0
tainted bootstraps
so vote republican 6688 2010-02-08 08:37:48.0 login to vote score 0
Actually no. Once the food is tainted it's going to be found.

We need government regulation to prevent this kind of thing happening in the first place.
sloth 222 2010-02-08 08:38:10.0 login to vote score 0
Umm, wot?
oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 08:38:29.0 login to vote score 0
This is why we do have it.
fatsean 3838 2010-02-08 08:40:49.0 login to vote score 0
Keep doing your grocery shopping at WalMart :) Lots of the frozen veggies are from China. Lucky for us, the milk probably doesn't keep on the trip over the ocean!



oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 08:40:58.0 login to vote score 0
Well, not this particular incident but damn it, I'm trying to find a way to blame conservatism here.
jin verde 210 2010-02-08 08:41:04.0 login to vote score 0
Repackaging known tainted food to resell. Gotta love the Chinese food/industrial regulatory system. I am sad for the babies that drink this crap and sicken/die. Perhaps the CEOs/supervisors/decision-makers of the dairies that repackaged the tainted milk should be forced to consume their own tainted products.
spongegirl circleskirt 382 2010-02-08 08:42:39.0 login to vote score 0
The Chinese have a rep for not caring about human life. This is another example.
jin verde 210 2010-02-08 08:43:36.0 login to vote score 2
oftenrong: Well, not this particular incident but damn it, I'm trying to find a way to blame conservatism here.

Free markets. When there are no rules forcing companies to follow basic common-sense practices, they will eventually collapse under their own stupidity. In the meantime, its okay to let those Chinese children die since they have such a big population anyway.

Did I hit all the ugly points? :)
oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 08:44:04.0 login to vote score 0
jin verde:

China has been known to put corrupt executives to death.

jin verde 210 2010-02-08 08:44:33.0 login to vote score 1
spongegirl circleskirt: The Chinese have a rep for not caring about human life. This is another example.

Yep. It just astounds me that they repackaged KNOWN tainted powdered milk for babies and children. Jesus.
jin verde 210 2010-02-08 08:45:10.0 login to vote score 0
oftenrong: China has been known to put corrupt executives to death.

Yes. Yes they do.
sloth 222 2010-02-08 08:45:22.0 login to vote score 0
spongegirl circleskirt: The Chinese have a rep for not caring about human life. This is another example.

TFA: In November, two people were executed for their involvement in the scandal.


spongegirl circleskirt 382 2010-02-08 08:45:52.0 login to vote score 0
sloth: TFA: In November, two people were executed for their involvement in the scandal.

Good.
oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 08:47:44.0 login to vote score 0
jin verde:

Did I hit all the ugly points? :)


Ha! More ugly than pointed. Free markets are more a liberalism thing (for which I blame conservatism...?).

/It's hard out here for a simp.
oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 08:48:15.0 login to vote score 0
sloth:

TFA: In November, two people were executed for their involvement in the scandal.


You... you read the article? GET HIM!
sloth 222 2010-02-08 08:48:17.0 login to vote score 0
jin verde: Free markets. When there are no rules forcing companies to follow basic common-sense practices,

Errm, China has rules. And they true-death people who break the rules and get caught. They're not exactly a free-market economy, either.
mikewhy 80 2010-02-08 08:50:01.0 login to vote score 2
The powder should have been destroyed following the 2008 scandal but had been given to the dairy by another company as debt payment.

in lieu of cash will you accept tainted milk powder, lead-based children's toys, or poisoned dog food?

we'll take the tainted milk powder
jin verde 210 2010-02-08 08:54:48.0 login to vote score 2
sloth: Errm, China has rules. And they true-death people who break the rules and get caught. They're not exactly a free-market economy, either.

I know China has rules and are not exactly a free-market economy. I was pointing out the theoretical ugliness of the pure Neoliberal ideal of a Free Market - no rules. No nation has an entirely ideal Free Market. Not even the US, because rules and regulations exist.
oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 08:55:19.0 login to vote score 0
mikewhy:

+1 one on the if I don't laugh I'll cry principle.
sloth 222 2010-02-08 08:57:22.0 login to vote score 0
jin verde: I know China has rules and are not exactly a free-market economy. I was pointing out the theoretical ugliness of the pure Neoliberal ideal of a Free Market - no rules. No nation has an entirely ideal Free Market. Not even the US, because rules and regulations exist.

Aren't rules and regulations inherently necessary to the existence of a Free Market? Amongst the preconditions, after all, is the requirement that there be no coercion or force between participants, contractual obligations must be compulsory, and deliberate misinformation must be prohibited. All of those require rules and regulations, as well as a regulatory agency.
sloth 222 2010-02-08 08:57:53.0 login to vote score 2
mikewhy: The powder should have been destroyed following the 2008 scandal but had been given to the dairy by another company as debt payment.

in lieu of cash will you accept tainted milk powder, lead-based children's toys, or poisoned dog food?

we'll take the tainted milk powder


Heads wirr loll.
mikewhy 80 2010-02-08 08:58:40.0 login to vote score 1
oftenrong: +1 one on the if I don't laugh I'll cry principle.

yeah, whoever kept that product around should be taken out back and shot
oftenrong 437 2010-02-08 09:08:45.0 login to vote score 0
sloth:

It's not like our regulatory system sprung fully formed from Zeus' forehead either.
hornwrecker 48 2010-02-08 09:11:19.0 login to vote score 1
jin verde: Yep. It just astounds me that they repackaged KNOWN tainted powdered milk for babies and children. Jesus.

Now, they'll probably repackage it yet again, and ship it to Haiti as donated relief aid.


elebrin 1389 2010-02-08 09:29:43.0 login to vote score 0
jin verde: Free markets. When there are no rules forcing companies to follow basic common-sense practices, they will eventually collapse under their own stupidity. In the meantime, its okay to let those Chinese children die since they have such a big population anyway.

Did I hit all the ugly points? :)


Well, the tainted milk was found and will be pulled. In a free market people are supposed to be smart enough to say 'hey... milk that comes from China has issues... maybe I won't buy it' but people are dumb. If everyone stops buying from a company that company will fail.
fatsean 3838 2010-02-08 10:31:49.0 login to vote score 0
hornwrecker: Now, they'll probably repackage it yet again, and ship it to Haiti as donated relief aid.

I vaguely recall a recent story about the discovery in New Jersey of some beef that had been frozen since the 1980s. Might have been a dream tho.

fatsean 3838 2010-02-08 10:32:51.0 login to vote score 0
elebrin: Well, the tainted milk was found and will be pulled. In a free market people are supposed to be smart enough to say 'hey... milk that comes from China has issues... maybe I won't buy it' but people are dumb. If everyone stops buying from a company that company will fail.

Unless they aren't as equally informed as the other players in said free market.
sabine 745 2010-02-08 10:49:41.0 login to vote score 0
spongegirl circleskirt: The Chinese have a rep for not caring about human life. This is another example.

Blood libel from a self-proclaimed Jew strikes me as ironic.
spongegirl circleskirt 382 2010-02-08 11:45:05.0 login to vote score 0
sabine: Blood libel from a self-proclaimed Jew strikes me as ironic.

ohhh...burn... :P
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