How to argue with right-wing relatives
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It's funny, my family used to be split pretty much down the middle, now they all hate everyone. I can't remember the last time they argued about politics.
It's funny, my family used to be split pretty much down the middle, now they all hate everyone. I can't remember the last time they argued about politics.
Step 1: Fuckin' DON'T. You're not going to convince them, they're not going to convince you. Discuss sports, movies, music, etc. Or just don't talk to 'em.
Don't. Who really cares what stupid crap Uncle Larry comes out with? Eat your damn mashed potatoes and talk about other stuff. Let everyone think Uncle Larry is the asshole. I bet this guys cousins call him 'Alex the Douchebag.' This also applies to arguing with your lib relatives.
I'll pass.
By the standards of such leading intellectuals like phil_herup, I'm a libbie-lib-lib, some of those arguments are lame.
Talking points are full of shit, no matter what the source is.
By the standards of such leading intellectuals like phil_herup, I'm a libbie-lib-lib, some of those arguments are lame.
Talking points are full of shit, no matter what the source is.
You can't win. And the more proof you present them with, the more the will cling to whatever wacky idea they picked up from faux.
I've noticed the same people tend to be religious, I think it's because they've already been trained to believe things without question.
I've noticed the same people tend to be religious, I think it's because they've already been trained to believe things without question.
I'm socialist as you all know and the rest of my family is all very right wing. We've agreed to stick to the weather and/or wanting to punch Paris Hilton in the face as topics.
Yeah, wacky shit like solyndra and fast and the black panther election issue... just wacky.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
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Talking points are full of shit, no matter what the source is.
Here, here.
Talking points are full of shit, no matter what the source is.
Here, here.
gahbrone: Yeah, wacky shit like solyndra and fast and the black panther election issue... just wacky.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
And more important, do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
And more important, do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?
abbynormal: And more important, do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?
HEY! Let 'em fuck the dirt. Have you seen token's garden?
HEY! Let 'em fuck the dirt. Have you seen token's garden?
I just tell them I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.
Of course, you might have a right-wing relative who's such a complete asshole that they're totally incapable of having a single discussion without wedging politics (and their "team") into it somehow. Best to avoid them completely. If that's not possible you can try spiking their egg nog with NyQuil and waiting for 'em to pass out, visions of Limbaugh and Glenn Beck dancing in their heads.
gahbrone: Yeah, wacky shit like solyndra and fast and the black panther election issue... just wacky.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
gahbrone: Yeah, wacky shit like solyndra and fast and the black panther election issue... just wacky.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
mcbotulism: Of course, you might have a right-wing relative who's such a complete asshole that they're totally incapable of having a single discussion without wedging politics (and their "team") into it somehow. Best to avoid them completely. If that's not possible you can try spiking their egg nog with NyQuil and waiting for 'em to pass out, visions of Limbaugh and Glenn Beck dancing in their heads.
Ugh, I hate people like that. No matter what the subject they need to work their insane political views in to it.
You can be talking about adopting a kitten, or buying a house plant, and somehow the will out of no where find a way to blame Obama.
Ugh, I hate people like that. No matter what the subject they need to work their insane political views in to it.
You can be talking about adopting a kitten, or buying a house plant, and somehow the will out of no where find a way to blame Obama.
If you really have to argue with rightwingers and want to keep things civil, stick to the facts. Just calmly rebut the most egregious lies and leave it at that being as brief as possible in replying. Getting into a back and forth is to be avoided as that just makes things escalate.
blandly pompous: If you really have to argue with rightwingers and want to keep things civil, stick to the facts. Just calmly rebut the most egregious lies and leave it at that being as brief as possible in replying. Getting into a back and forth is to be avoided as that just makes things escalate.
funny, b/c that the only way to deal with liberals. 100% to a person they end up walking out of the room b/c they can't argue against facts.
funny, b/c that the only way to deal with liberals. 100% to a person they end up walking out of the room b/c they can't argue against facts.
"Bush was the biggest spender ever.. BLAHHHHHHHH"
gahbrone: funny, b/c that the only way to deal with liberals. 100% to a person they end up walking out of the room b/c they can't argue against facts.
Are you drunk or something? Not because of your views, but because that sentence did not make sense.
Are you drunk or something? Not because of your views, but because that sentence did not make sense.
abbynormal: Are you drunk or something? Not because of your views, but because that sentence did not make sense.
case in point.
case in point.
and gahbrone proves the point!
Monosyllabically.
gahbrone: case in point.
How exactly? Your sentence was a mess. I understand what you were trying to say, but it was a bad sentence. You would fail high school english.
How exactly? Your sentence was a mess. I understand what you were trying to say, but it was a bad sentence. You would fail high school english.
gahbrone: funny, b/c that the only way to deal with liberals. 100% to a person they end up walking out of the room b/c they can't argue against facts.
Gahbrone's record of facts:
Gahbrone's record of facts:
swingingjohnson: But you do care.
Telling a eager bore that you don't care about the topic that has them all riled up usually gets you off the hook as they think you are hopeless.
Telling a eager bore that you don't care about the topic that has them all riled up usually gets you off the hook as they think you are hopeless.
I don't argue with my right-winger family anymore. I moved for away and got a new, cool family.
I just laugh maniacally every time they spew some of their silly shit. They ask why I'm laughing, and I tell them they wouldn't understand, they watch Fox News.
I love to read articles where the the lefty libs try to convince themselves they are the ones who are correct.
Their ideology is filled with logical flaws and unsustainable policies that they must constantly reinforce each other they are on the right path.
Hint: If you need ridicule and ignore lists combined with hanging out with similarly minded folks in order to make it through a day, then you are probably the one with the problem. Not your "right wing releatives".
What do you argue about? That is is OK to take from the haves and dole out to the have nots? That gay marriage is the most important issue facing America? How do you defend the failed administration you voted for?
Seriously? Are you that deluded that you actually believe the lies from the left are reality and that your right wing relative is just spewing talking points from FOX News?
As every day passes your progressive ideology gets proven to be a failure worldwide, you a push to follow it anyway. You literally ignore that the Eurozone is collapsing and you dream to be more like Europe. But its the Right Wing Relative who needs help.
Their ideology is filled with logical flaws and unsustainable policies that they must constantly reinforce each other they are on the right path.
Hint: If you need ridicule and ignore lists combined with hanging out with similarly minded folks in order to make it through a day, then you are probably the one with the problem. Not your "right wing releatives".
What do you argue about? That is is OK to take from the haves and dole out to the have nots? That gay marriage is the most important issue facing America? How do you defend the failed administration you voted for?
Seriously? Are you that deluded that you actually believe the lies from the left are reality and that your right wing relative is just spewing talking points from FOX News?
As every day passes your progressive ideology gets proven to be a failure worldwide, you a push to follow it anyway. You literally ignore that the Eurozone is collapsing and you dream to be more like Europe. But its the Right Wing Relative who needs help.
zolividor: I don't argue with my right-winger family anymore. I moved for away and got a new, cool family.
LOL.... you put them on the "ignore list" and then surrounded yourself with people who think like you do. Isolating yourself from actual reality and pretending that your new existence is reality. It is like a cult.
This is commonly known as a the Liberal Bubble Existence. Millions suffer from it. Nancy Pelosi is the poster child for it. Good luck.
LOL.... you put them on the "ignore list" and then surrounded yourself with people who think like you do. Isolating yourself from actual reality and pretending that your new existence is reality. It is like a cult.
This is commonly known as a the Liberal Bubble Existence. Millions suffer from it. Nancy Pelosi is the poster child for it. Good luck.
“I read that airlines don’t pair Christian pilots and co-pilots in case The Rapture happens”
Libs actually think that their Evil Right Wing Relatives think like this.
This article is a great example of the mental condition of Hyper-Libism. Where you believe deep down inside that everyone else is wrong and sociopathic, even though you actually make up a relatively small amount of the population. Because of your closed minded myopic bubble existence you don't see it.
Protip: banniNation is not a good representation of America or even the world as a whole.
Libs actually think that their Evil Right Wing Relatives think like this.
This article is a great example of the mental condition of Hyper-Libism. Where you believe deep down inside that everyone else is wrong and sociopathic, even though you actually make up a relatively small amount of the population. Because of your closed minded myopic bubble existence you don't see it.
Protip: banniNation is not a good representation of America or even the world as a whole.
gahbrone: Yeah, wacky shit like solyndra and fast and the black panther election issue... just wacky.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
The need to utilize the concept of "ignore" is key there. They actually pretend that stuff does not exist or never happened. Just listen to Obama this past weekend on 60 minutes. He actually thinks he is up there with some of the best Presidents in history. Both he and his supporters exist in fantasy land.
As long as you ignore it, it's not an issue... par for the course libs.
The need to utilize the concept of "ignore" is key there. They actually pretend that stuff does not exist or never happened. Just listen to Obama this past weekend on 60 minutes. He actually thinks he is up there with some of the best Presidents in history. Both he and his supporters exist in fantasy land.
phil_herup: I love to read articles where the the lefty libs try to convince themselves they are the ones who are correct.
Their ideology is filled with logical flaws and unsustainable policies that they must constantly reinforce each other they are on the right path.
Hint: If you need ridicule and ignore lists combined with hanging out with similarly minded folks in order to make it through a day, then you are probably the one with the problem. Not your "right wing releatives".
What do you argue about? That is is OK to take from the haves and dole out to the have nots? That gay marriage is the most important issue facing America? How do you defend the failed administration you voted for?
Seriously? Are you that deluded that you actually believe the lies from the left are reality and that your right wing relative is just spewing talking points from FOX News?
As every day passes your progressive ideology gets proven to be a failure worldwide, you a push to follow it anyway. You literally ignore that the Eurozone is collapsing and you dream to be more like Europe. But its the Right Wing Relative who needs help.
phil_herup: LOL.... you put them on the "ignore list" and then surrounded yourself with people who think like you do. Isolating yourself from actual reality and pretending that your new existence is reality. It is like a cult.
This is commonly known as a the Liberal Bubble Existence. Millions suffer from it. Nancy Pelosi is the poster child for it. Good luck.
phil_herup: “I read that airlines don’t pair Christian pilots and co-pilots in case The Rapture happens”
Libs actually think that their Evil Right Wing Relatives think like this.
This article is a great example of the mental condition of Hyper-Libism. Where you believe deep down inside that everyone else is wrong and sociopathic, even though you actually make up a relatively small amount of the population. Because of your closed minded myopic bubble existence you don't see it.
Protip: banniNation is not a good representation of America or even the world as a whole.
phil_herup: The need to utilize the concept of "ignore" is key there. They actually pretend that stuff does not exist or never happened. Just listen to Obama this past weekend on 60 minutes. He actually thinks he is up there with some of the best Presidents in history. Both he and his supporters exist in fantasy land.
Don't mince words phil, tell us how you REALLY feel.
Their ideology is filled with logical flaws and unsustainable policies that they must constantly reinforce each other they are on the right path.
Hint: If you need ridicule and ignore lists combined with hanging out with similarly minded folks in order to make it through a day, then you are probably the one with the problem. Not your "right wing releatives".
What do you argue about? That is is OK to take from the haves and dole out to the have nots? That gay marriage is the most important issue facing America? How do you defend the failed administration you voted for?
Seriously? Are you that deluded that you actually believe the lies from the left are reality and that your right wing relative is just spewing talking points from FOX News?
As every day passes your progressive ideology gets proven to be a failure worldwide, you a push to follow it anyway. You literally ignore that the Eurozone is collapsing and you dream to be more like Europe. But its the Right Wing Relative who needs help.
phil_herup: LOL.... you put them on the "ignore list" and then surrounded yourself with people who think like you do. Isolating yourself from actual reality and pretending that your new existence is reality. It is like a cult.
This is commonly known as a the Liberal Bubble Existence. Millions suffer from it. Nancy Pelosi is the poster child for it. Good luck.
phil_herup: “I read that airlines don’t pair Christian pilots and co-pilots in case The Rapture happens”
Libs actually think that their Evil Right Wing Relatives think like this.
This article is a great example of the mental condition of Hyper-Libism. Where you believe deep down inside that everyone else is wrong and sociopathic, even though you actually make up a relatively small amount of the population. Because of your closed minded myopic bubble existence you don't see it.
Protip: banniNation is not a good representation of America or even the world as a whole.
phil_herup: The need to utilize the concept of "ignore" is key there. They actually pretend that stuff does not exist or never happened. Just listen to Obama this past weekend on 60 minutes. He actually thinks he is up there with some of the best Presidents in history. Both he and his supporters exist in fantasy land.
Don't mince words phil, tell us how you REALLY feel.
Why is somebody striking Phil's posts? You'll only add fire to the stupid.
I see that anonypansy intolerant libs are attempting to strike my posts again.
This is a political thread and libs don't like being exposed for the frauds they are. It specially says when you strike a post that it is not to be used to eliminate something you disagree with, but is for TOS violations.
Do we need any further proof of just how closed minded these frauds are?
ambition chicken: Why is somebody striking Phil's posts? You'll only add fire to the stupid.
Intolerance. They just can't handle the truth. Ignoring or striking a post and pretending it never existed is all part of the bubble existence that libs reside in.
This is a political thread and libs don't like being exposed for the frauds they are. It specially says when you strike a post that it is not to be used to eliminate something you disagree with, but is for TOS violations.
Do we need any further proof of just how closed minded these frauds are?
ambition chicken: Why is somebody striking Phil's posts? You'll only add fire to the stupid.
Intolerance. They just can't handle the truth. Ignoring or striking a post and pretending it never existed is all part of the bubble existence that libs reside in.
phil_herup: I see that anonypansy intolerant libs are attempting to strike my posts again.
So far as I can tell, one person was striking your posts.
Your persecution complex and delusions of grandeur are showing again.
So far as I can tell, one person was striking your posts.
Your persecution complex and delusions of grandeur are showing again.
osirisothedead: So far as I can tell, one person was striking your posts.
Your persecution complex and delusions of grandeur are showing again.
Well if you want to make the argument about whether there was one or three is purely academic. It does not matter, it is just typical that libs resort to such tactics quite regularly. Fact is, I have had a number of posts stricken based strictly on ideological disagreements. Your claim that I have a persecution complex is asinine, like almost all of your claims.
Your persecution complex and delusions of grandeur are showing again.
Well if you want to make the argument about whether there was one or three is purely academic. It does not matter, it is just typical that libs resort to such tactics quite regularly. Fact is, I have had a number of posts stricken based strictly on ideological disagreements. Your claim that I have a persecution complex is asinine, like almost all of your claims.
phil_herup: Well if you want to make the argument about whether there was one or three is purely academic. It does not matter, it is just typical that libs resort to such tactics quite regularly. Fact is, I have had a number of posts stricken based strictly on ideological disagreements. Your claim that I have a persecution complex is asinine, like almost all of your claims.
No doubt some lib also unstruck your posts. You conveniently ignore that. It'd make you have to rethink your persecution complex.
No doubt some lib also unstruck your posts. You conveniently ignore that. It'd make you have to rethink your persecution complex.
osirisothedead: No doubt some lib also unstruck your posts. You conveniently ignore that. It'd make you have to rethink your persecution complex.
I never said it was everyone.
How about this.... who is adult enough to admit they were The Lone Lib who doth struck thine posts
I never said it was everyone.
How about this.... who is adult enough to admit they were The Lone Lib who doth struck thine posts
Was "The Boys from Brazil" supposed to be a comedy?
'Cause I thought it was pretty silly.
'Cause I thought it was pretty silly.
dividebyxero: Don't mince words phil, tell us how you REALLY feel.
It's nice that he never insults anyone.
It's nice that he never insults anyone.
How to argue with right-wing relatives
It's not much different than arguing with some of the ignorant hellbent on cognitive dissonance libs on bN. The primary difference is the vast reduction is religiosity and racism.
It's not much different than arguing with some of the ignorant hellbent on cognitive dissonance libs on bN. The primary difference is the vast reduction is religiosity and racism.
In other words, like arguing with czar.
You know who I can't stand?
People that insist its "up, up, down, down, b,a, b,a start."
Just ONE set of "b" and "a!" Party affiliation or no, if you do not appreciate that fact then they need not grace me with their ill-gotten existences (that's right they're rape babies!) any longer! Harummmph!
People that insist its "up, up, down, down, b,a, b,a start."
Just ONE set of "b" and "a!" Party affiliation or no, if you do not appreciate that fact then they need not grace me with their ill-gotten existences (that's right they're rape babies!) any longer! Harummmph!
Ironic that I left out "left" and "right?"
osirisothedead: No doubt some lib also unstruck your posts. You conveniently ignore that. It'd make you have to rethink your persecution complex.
I unstrike his posts all the time. I have very specific guidelines to what I consider uncool and what i consider a violation of the TOS.
Beyond this, I love my dad but there is no point to talking to him about politics. He is one of the smartest people I know but none of that goes into his politics. And he starts to get upset when that becomes obvious.
I unstrike his posts all the time. I have very specific guidelines to what I consider uncool and what i consider a violation of the TOS.
Beyond this, I love my dad but there is no point to talking to him about politics. He is one of the smartest people I know but none of that goes into his politics. And he starts to get upset when that becomes obvious.
I don't argue with relatives who are right wing morons.
Why should I?
I have bN when I feel the need for that.
phil_herup: Whom did I insult?
Right bro?!
Why should I?
I have bN when I feel the need for that.
phil_herup: Whom did I insult?
Right bro?!
pajamas: Beyond this, I love my dad but there is no point to talking to him about politics. He is one of the smartest people I know but none of that goes into his politics. And he starts to get upset when that becomes obvious.
Huh? He gets upset because he feels dumb talking about politics?
Huh? He gets upset because he feels dumb talking about politics?
pajamas:
phil_herup: Huh? He gets upset because he feels dumb talking about politics?
My uncle in Florida is like that.
If you back him in to a political argument corner his face will turn red and he'll start screaming on top of his lung blurting out all FOX NEWS talking points verbatim.
It's like his balls are in a vice grip.
I'm pretty sure I could handle myself quite well against pajamas and sj together at any family function.
With a smile and a beverage too
With a smile and a beverage too
phil_herup: I'm pretty sure I could handle myself quite well against pajamas and sj together at any family function.
With a smile and a beverage too
Masturbating in public is generally frowned upon.
With a smile and a beverage too
Masturbating in public is generally frowned upon.
phil_herup: Huh? He gets upset because he feels dumb talking about politics?
He gets upset because when backed into a wall, it becomes obvious to him that he can't really intellectually support his politics.
He gets upset because when backed into a wall, it becomes obvious to him that he can't really intellectually support his politics.
phil_herup: I'm pretty sure I could handle myself quite well against pajamas and sj together at any family function.
With a smile and a beverage too
He ends up doing much the same as you do here. He insults people and makes these grandiose ad hominem dialectics out of thin air. The difference is that he's a really educated person and is aware that this isn't the right way to argue. He has a PhD in History and ends up supporting things he really doesn't deep down.
He's a compassionate person who is forced into a wall describing an uncompassionate and ruthless world when he argues.
With a smile and a beverage too
He ends up doing much the same as you do here. He insults people and makes these grandiose ad hominem dialectics out of thin air. The difference is that he's a really educated person and is aware that this isn't the right way to argue. He has a PhD in History and ends up supporting things he really doesn't deep down.
He's a compassionate person who is forced into a wall describing an uncompassionate and ruthless world when he argues.
I repeatedly agree with each side in turn.
That usually makes everyone nice and crazy.
That usually makes everyone nice and crazy.
Exactly the same way you argue with dumbass left-wing relatives: "That's nice; could you pass the potatoes?"
Late to the party, but my mom started talking about Obama going on vacation and I mentioned that Bush spent 1/3rd of his presidency on vacation, and all of a sudden she didn't want to talk about it anymore.
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