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    fatsean 3838 2012-02-20 07:24:27.0 login to vote score 0
    You can't hide your guilty eyes, "Heartland" Institute!
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-20 08:20:02.0 login to vote score 0
    The message here is that only The Cult of AGW is allowed to lie.
    burntman 1528 2012-02-20 08:27:42.0 login to vote score 10
    phil_herup: The message here is that only The Cult of AGW is allowed to lie.

    wait? So now your argument is that it's fine for the Heartland institute to lie because you are under the impression that "the cult of AGW" is lying? Really that's your defence of this?

    Phil here's a partial list of propoganda techniques. Can you identify how many of these you commonly use? How about just today in the various threads?

    PROPAGANDA TECHNIQUES:

    Lie
    Lie By Omission and Half-Truths
    Lie With Qualifiers
    Lie With Statistics
    Scream Accusations of Lies and Lying
    Observational Selection
    The Statistics of Small Numbers
    Bury The Lead
    The Big Lie
    Reversal Of Reality
    Projection
    Make a Virtue out of a Fault
    Unsupported Claims
    Imaginary Evidence
    Use Association
    The Glittering Generality
    Exaggerate
    Confusion of Correlation and Causation
    Reverse a Cause-and-Effect Relationship
    Straw Man
    Hypnotic Bait and Switch
    The Either/Or Technique — Bifurcation — the Excluded Middle
    False Dichotomy
    The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Friend
    "Hobson's Choice"
    Alternative Advance
    "Somebody's got it worse"
    Faulty Syllogism
    Non Sequitur
    Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc — "It happened after 'X', so it was caused by 'X'"
    The Norm of Reciprocity
    Guilt Induction
    Play On Emotions, Appeal To Emotions
    Ad Hominem, Launch Personal Attacks On Opponents
    Engage in Name Calling
    Delegitimize One's Opponent
    Demonize the Enemy
    Apply Labels
    Stroking Ploys
    Blame A Scapegoat
    Blame Somebody Else (Anybody Else)
    Blame A Non-Factor
    Claim That There Is A Panacea
    Claim That There Is A Panmalefic
    Flattery
    Proof by Anecdote
    Double-Talk
    Unprovable Statements
    Undisprovable Statements
    The Language Trap
    Vague, Undefined, Grandiose Language
    Loaded Language, Euphemisms, and Redefined Words
    Fluffy Phrases
    Use Self-Referential Definitions — Define Something In Terms Of Itself
    Deception Via Mislabeling or Misnaming Things
    Misuse Words
    Moving The Goalposts
    Set Low Expections
    Sliding Adjectives
    Vague Adjectives
    Undefined Terms
    Pseudo-intellectual Bull
    Confuse With Technicalese
    Simplistic Slogans
    Over-simplification
    Wrap Yourself In A Higher Power
    Repeat Old Memes
    Everybody's Doing It, Everybody Knows, and Everybody Says
    Pomp, Ceremony, and Ritual
    Humor and Ridicule
    Assume The Major Premise
    Petitio Principii, Assume Facts Not In Evidence
    Hidden Assumptions
    Assume Futures or Future Results
    Fallacy of Presupposition
    Affirmation of the Consequent
    Irrelevant Conclusion (Ignoratio Elenchi)
    Confusion of Beliefs with Facts
    Substitute Feelings For Facts
    Confusion of Abstractions with Reality
    Circular Reasoning (Circulus in Demonstrando)
    Appeal to Evil
    Appeal to Higher Principles
    Appeal to Authorities (Argumentum ad Verecundiam)
    Appeal to Force (Argumentum ad Baculum)
    Appeal to Popularity — Appeal to the People (Argumentum ad Populum)
    Appeal to Numbers (Argumentum ad Numerum)
    Dismiss by Numbers
    Appeal to Averages
    Appeal to Antiquity (Argumentum ad Antiquitatem)
    Dismiss by Antiquity
    Appeal to Novelty — Newness (Argumentum ad Novitatem)
    Dismiss by Novelty
    Appeal to the Exotic
    Appeal to Tradition
    Appeal to Poverty (Argumentum ad Lazarum)
    Appeal to Wealth (Argumentum ad Crumenam)
    Appeal to Common Folk
    Appeal To Stupidity
    Antirationalism
    Appeal to Desperation
    Appeal to Pity Ad Misericordiam
    Exploit Wishful Thinking, and Tell Them What They Want To Hear
    It Ought To Be True, So It Is.
    It's Too Terrible To Tell
    Argue from Adverse Consequences
    Argue from Beneficial Consequences
    Apply Time Pressure
    The Real Scotsman Fallacy
    Inverse Real Scotsman Fallacy
    Inconsistency
    Compare Apples To Oranges
    Special Pleading
    Self-Sell
    Repetition for Emphasis (Argumentum ad Nauseam)
    Antimetabole
    Reification
    Take Undeserved Credit
    Create A Granfalloon
    Spin Doctoring
    The Semi-Attached Figure
    Use Exact Numbers
    Avoid Specific Numbers
    Hide Behind Others
    The Preacher's We
    Put Words Into Other People's Mouths
    Tokenism
    Testimonials and Stories
    The Fallacy of One Similarity
    The Fallacy of One Dissimilarity
    If It Looks Like X, Then It Is X.
    A Distinction Without A Difference.
    Sly Suggestions
    Misleading Inference
    Unsubstantiated Inference and Groundless Claims
    Introduce Irrelevant Information as Supporting Evidence
    False Analogy
    False Equality
    Double Bind
    Project Future From Past
    False Analysis Of History
    It's Never Happened Before
    I Didn't See It Happen, So It Never Happened
    Argue Inevitability
    Pollyanna's Ploy — Unbridled Optimism
    Chicken Little's Pessimism
    Generalize, and the Sweeping Generality
    Take Quotes Out Of Context
    Argue from Ignorance (Argumentum ad Ignorantiam)
    Begging The Question
    Meaningless Question
    Blame The Victim
    Play the Victim, and Self-Victimization
    Claim to Have Special or Secret Knowledge
    Bad Math
    Use the Passive Voice
    Use Slanted Language
    Use Inflamatory Language



    keerbip 4358 2012-02-20 08:40:33.0 login to vote score 0
    burntman: wait? So now your argument is that it's fine for the Heartland institute to lie because you are under the impression that "the cult of AGW" is lying? Really that's your defence of this?

    Phil here's a partial list of propoganda techniques. Can you identify how many of these you commonly use? How about just today in the various threads?


    All of them, Katie.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-20 08:43:02.0 login to vote score -1
    burntman: Can you identify how many of these you commonly use? How about just today in the various threads?

    PROPAGANDA TECHNIQUES:




    Accusations of Lies and Lying

    Use Inflamatory Language




    Libs lie, and calling them the fuck out keeps me busy.

    sloth 222 2012-02-20 08:55:00.0 login to vote score 1
    phil_herup: Libs lie, and calling them the f**k out keeps me busy.


    burntman:
    Projection



    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-20 09:08:56.0 login to vote score -1
    sloth:


    I don't lie... therefore I do not project.
    sloth 222 2012-02-20 09:30:45.0 login to vote score 0


    I predict many secondary quotes for this post.
    sloth 222 2012-02-20 09:31:07.0 login to vote score 0
    burntman:

    I predict many secondary quotes for this post.
    ricardo shadowban 8391 2012-02-20 09:59:21.0 login to vote score 0
    Maybe they can hire Joseph Rakofsky to sue the Internet for defamation.
    If you logged in, you could post here.