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    fatsean 3838 2012-02-22 07:49:16.0 login to vote score 0
    That's pretty funny. A shame it's not really a parallel. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised to find some religious fingersniffer trying to outlaw hysterectomies...

    quick1 501 2012-02-22 07:50:24.0 login to vote score 21
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:02:54.0 login to vote score 1
    Idiot Democrat womyn making false equivalences?

    Is today a day that ends in "y"?

    quick1 501 2012-02-22 08:04:43.0 login to vote score 17
    phil_herup: Idiot Democrat womyn making false equivalences?

    Is today a day that ends in "y"?


    I agree, it's a false equivalence. Instead, they should shove a giant dildo up your ass before you are able to get a vasectomy.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:05:02.0 login to vote score 1
    quick1:


    Democrats are Pro-Choice on abortion, but little else.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-02-22 08:08:02.0 login to vote score 3
    Must whiteknight for authoritarian Republicans!!
    fatsean 3838 2012-02-22 08:08:02.0 login to vote score 1
    quick1: I agree, it's a false equivalence. Instead, they should shove a giant dildo up your ass before you are able to get a vasectomy.

    I think a full depth catheter up the ol' pee hole would be more equivalent.

    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:09:30.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I agree, it's a false equivalence. Instead, they should shove a giant dildo up your ass before you are able to get a vasectomy.


    Or they could just stop being immature reactionary children and act like adults.
    quick1 501 2012-02-22 08:10:30.0 login to vote score 7
    phil_herup: Or they could just stop being immature reactionary children and act like adults.

    Yes, they should just accept the government mandating an unnecessary invasive procedure. Suck it up, ladies.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 08:10:30.0 login to vote score 2
    fatsean: That's pretty funny. A shame it's not really a parallel. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised to find some religious fingersniffer trying to outlaw hysterectomies...

    It's about as parallel as one can get I suppose.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-02-22 08:12:56.0 login to vote score 3
    phil_herup: Democrats are Pro-Choice on abortion, but little else.

    Wrong. Every person should have the choice to not be forced to breath in industrial pollutants.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-02-22 08:15:00.0 login to vote score 5
    phil_herup: Or they could just stop being immature reactionary children and act like adults.


    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:16:26.0 login to vote score 1
    quick1: Yes, they should just accept the government mandating an unnecessary invasive procedure. Suck it up, ladies.


    If you are just about to have an abortion, which is highly invasive, how can you say that the ultrasound, which is no where near as invasive as the abortion, is invasive?

    No logic there.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-02-22 08:18:18.0 login to vote score 13
    phil_herup: If you are just about to have an abortion, which is highly invasive, how can you say that the ultrasound, which is no where near as invasive as the abortion, is invasive?

    No logic there.


    It's a bullshit process that's designed to make the woman as uncomfortable as possible. It makes her jump through bureaucratic hoops, violates her body unnecessarily all so she can get to another procedure that will most definitely not be easy for her. And you think this is fine?

    You fucking disgusting pig.
    keerbip 4358 2012-02-22 08:18:31.0 login to vote score 4
    phil_herup: If you are just about to have an abortion, which is highly invasive, how can you say that the ultrasound, which is no where near as invasive as the abortion, is invasive?

    No logic there.


    Yeah, one invasive procedure, two invasive procedures, what's the difference?
    abt12monk 10796 2012-02-22 08:18:44.0 login to vote score 4
    phil_herup: If you are just about to have an abortion, which is highly invasive, how can you say that the ultrasound, which is no where near as invasive as the abortion, is invasive?

    No logic there.


    What makes you think anyone has the right to decide that other than the woman once she's discussed it with her doctor?
    quick1 501 2012-02-22 08:20:51.0 login to vote score 4
    phil_herup: If you are just about to have an abortion, which is highly invasive, how can you say that the ultrasound, which is no where near as invasive as the abortion, is invasive?

    No logic there.


    One is invasive by the choice of the woman and her doctor. The other is the government mandating the invasive procedure.

    Based on your response to this issue, you have pretty much forfeited any claims that you are for smaller government.
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-02-22 08:30:24.0 login to vote score 3
    phil_herup's nutsucking and jizz swilling of everything republican is becoming more and more tragic.
    keerbip 4358 2012-02-22 08:33:18.0 login to vote score 1
    little hands of concrete: phil_herup's nutsucking and jizz swilling of everything republican

    We need government-mandated ultrasounds before nutsucking and jizz swilling is allowed.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:35:11.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: One is invasive by the choice of the woman and her doctor. The other is the government mandating the invasive procedure.

    Based on your response to this issue, you have pretty much forfeited any claims that you are for smaller government.



    I am not for any type of mandate at all for anyone. That is what you like.

    I just like poking at all the logical holes in lefty lib arguments, and there is no shortage of them.

    I am pro-gaybortion all day long.
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-02-22 08:35:38.0 login to vote score 0
    keerbip: We need government-mandated ultrasounds before nutsucking and jizz swilling is allowed.

    Perhaps. I mean, who else on this board sucks as much republican dick, under the guise of being a libertarian, as phil_herup?


    illuminaughty 648 2012-02-22 08:36:21.0 login to vote score 1
    This should please the "sex is for procreation ONLY" crowd, at least.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 08:37:06.0 login to vote score 2
    phil_herup: I am not for any type of mandate at all for anyone. That is what you like.

    I just like poking at all the logical holes in lefty lib arguments, and there is no shortage of them.

    I am pro-gaybortion all day long.


    You like poking at holes? Do you like pina colada too?
    quick1 501 2012-02-22 08:37:41.0 login to vote score 2
    phil_herup: I am not for any type of mandate at all for anyone. That is what you like.

    And yet you have whiteknighted the legislation in multiple threads now, and in fact argued in support of the sonic dildo being used before an abortion.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:38:04.0 login to vote score -1
    illuminaughty: This should please the "sex is for procreation ONLY" crowd, at least.


    What about the sex for recreation crowd? Sex for recreation is not a women's health issue, nor is it a right to free contraceptives.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 08:38:49.0 login to vote score 1
    quick1: the sonic dildo


    So perfect for taggotry
    grotfabrieken rubbishhausen 561 2012-02-22 08:41:15.0 login to vote score 1
    illuminaughty: This should please the "sex is for procreation ONLY" crowd, at least.

    I can totally see the fundies getting behind this bill. They should be careful how they play this game.

    Fun fact: when I got snipped, my doctor told me I wouldn't have been eligible under insurance if I'd chosen the local Catholic hospital as my primary hospital under my HMO. This was in libby lib lib LA not so long ago.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 08:41:41.0 login to vote score 4
    phil_herup: What about the sex for recreation crowd? Sex for recreation is not a women's health issue, nor is it a right to free contraceptives.

    What about the poking holes crowd? Poking holes for recreation is not a sex issue, nor is it a right to free access to women, laying on a medical table feet up in stirrips, holes.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 08:42:31.0 login to vote score 1
    phil is smrter than all of us. He just likes to poke our holes.
    quick1 501 2012-02-22 08:44:41.0 login to vote score 1
    quinblake: phil is smrter than all of us. He just likes to poke our holes.

    I'd like to poke your holes, if you know what I mean.
    illuminaughty 648 2012-02-22 08:45:43.0 login to vote score 3
    phil_herup: What about the sex for recreation crowd? Sex for recreation is not a women's health issue, nor is it a right to free contraceptives.

    I never said it was. There are many legitimate health reasons for birth-control pills and hysterectomies. What are the legitimate health concerns addressed by boner pills and vasectomies?
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 08:50:06.0 login to vote score 4
    phil_herup: What about the sex for recreation crowd? Sex for recreation is not a women's health issue, nor is it a right to free contraceptives.

    What's the matter phil? You not getting enough recreational sex? You want to deny it from the people who can't afford $100+/month for contraception? Is it a power issue for you? Or you just like the idea of poking holes?
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-02-22 08:53:34.0 login to vote score 1
    quick1: And yet you have whiteknighted the legislation in multiple threads now, and in fact argued in support of the sonic dildo being used before an abortion.

    Phil whiteknights for most republican initiatives and tries to spin almost every democrat initiative as ill-conceived and bad for America. His shilling for republicans is all he has, I guess.


    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:01:49.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Must whiteknight for authoritarian Republicans!!

    Are you saying abortion or restricting it is a form of authoritarianism? I'm not sure how it would be.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:03:08.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: And yet you have whiteknighted the legislation in multiple threads now, and in fact argued in support of the sonic dildo being used before an abortion.

    How is he whiteknighting the legislation?
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 09:04:18.0 login to vote score 1
    quinblake: What's the matter phil? You not getting enough recreational sex? You want to deny it from the people who can't afford $100+/month for contraception?


    Hey... I'll support the sex for recreation argument if you guys pay for my ski lift tickets.

    That is the logical equivalent.



    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:04:43.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: What's the matter phil? You not getting enough recreational sex? You want to deny it from the people who can't afford $100+/month for contraception? Is it a power issue for you? Or you just like the idea of poking holes?

    I think birth control is about $15 - $20 a month without a prescription, and the health district gives out free condoms.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:05:24.0 login to vote score 2
    phil_herup: Hey... I'll support the sex for recreation argument if you guys pay for my ski lift tickets.

    That is the logical equivalent.


    You're the logical equivalent to a hole poker. What's your point? Or should I say how hard is your point?
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:07:07.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: I think birth control is about $15 - $20 a month without a prescription, and the health district gives out free condoms.

    There was an article here recently that stated a birth control pill prescription was a minimum $81/month, but that was a very low cost price. I'm just going by what I've read though.
    illuminaughty 648 2012-02-22 09:08:21.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: I think birth control is about $15 - $20 a month without a prescription, and the health district gives out free condoms.

    You can't get birth control pills without a prescription.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 09:08:50.0 login to vote score 0
    illuminaughty: I never said it was. There are many legitimate health reasons for birth-control pills and hysterectomies. What are the legitimate health concerns addressed by boner pills and vasectomies?


    You may never have said it was, but the President and Sebelius have sold this as a women's rights issue and a women's health issue.

    "Sex as recreation" is neither a health issue or a rights issue in regards to free contraception. It is simply a subsidy sold under the guise of something it is not.



    illuminaughty: I never said it was. There are many legitimate health reasons for birth-control pills and hysterectomies.


    Absolutely. And these should be covered like any other medical issue. With a copay.



    illuminaughty: What are the legitimate health concerns addressed by boner pills and vasectomies?

    Nothing that the person's health insurance can't decide for its policy holders.

    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:08:57.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: There was an article here recently that stated a birth control pill prescription was a minimum $81/month, but that was a very low cost price. I'm just going by what I've read though.

    I used to pick up my ex-wife's birth control, no prescription, for $15.

    orthotrycyclin lo or something like that.
    illuminaughty 648 2012-02-22 09:10:57.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: I used to pick up my ex-wife's birth control, no prescription, for $15.

    orthotrycyclin lo or something like that.


    LOLWUT? Where did you buy OTC birth control pills?
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 09:11:52.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: You're the logical equivalent to a hole poker. What's your point? Or should I say how hard is your point?


    +10
    sloth 222 2012-02-22 09:15:27.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: There was an article here recently that stated a birth control pill prescription was a minimum $81/month, but that was a very low cost price. I'm just going by what I've read though.

    Costs range from about $15 to about $50 depending on type of pill. No, they are not available without a prescription, though there is a movement to give that particular prescription authority to pharmacists, and it's a pretty routine prescription.
    quick1 501 2012-02-22 09:19:00.0 login to vote score 1
    illuminaughty: LOLWUT? Where did you buy OTC birth control pills?

    You can't.
    quick1 501 2012-02-22 09:19:50.0 login to vote score 1
    sloth: Costs range from about $15 to about $50 depending on type of pill. No, they are not available without a prescription, though there is a movement to give that particular prescription authority to pharmacists, and it's a pretty routine prescription.

    I think that $15-50 range is also if your insurance covers it. If not, it can be more towards the $80-100 range.
    impasse 820 2012-02-22 09:22:24.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: ex-wife's birth control

    Wouldn't your face be sufficient? ;)

    Heh.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:25:12.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: I used to pick up my ex-wife's birth control, no prescription, for $15.

    orthotrycyclin lo or something like that.


    I didn't think birth control pills were available without a prescription, perhaps she'd already dropped off the prescription with the pharmacist and you just had to pick up the refills. Did your wife have private insurance? A lot cover 80% at the counter so perhaps the $15 was after an 80% insurance coverage.
    sloth 222 2012-02-22 09:26:30.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I think that $15-50 range is also if your insurance covers it. If not, it can be more towards the $80-100 range.

    Numbers came from Planned Parenthood, so I assume they meant cost without insurance, but it wasn't specified. Chart below is unsourced, but does specify costs without insurance - and comes from an article talking about how costs are under-reported, so if they have a motivation to err, it's to err on the high side of cost.


    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:29:15.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: There was an article here recently that stated a birth control pill prescription was a minimum $81/month, but that was a very low cost price. I'm just going by what I've read though.

    Quin looks like I was a little off.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061201161009AAJKStj

    Closer to $30 - $40
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:29:40.0 login to vote score 0
    illuminaughty: You can't get birth control pills without a prescription.

    I meant without insurance, sorry about that.
    fatsean 3838 2012-02-22 09:30:12.0 login to vote score 0
    Back in my day we didn't use vasectomies. We just put really, really tight underwear between our legs.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:30:14.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I think that $15-50 range is also if your insurance covers it. If not, it can be more towards the $80-100 range.

    This says different.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061201161009AAJKStj


    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:30:28.0 login to vote score 2
    impasse: Wouldn't your face be sufficient? ;)

    Heh.


    Heh!
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:31:17.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: I didn't think birth control pills were available without a prescription, perhaps she'd already dropped off the prescription with the pharmacist and you just had to pick up the refills. Did your wife have private insurance? A lot cover 80% at the counter so perhaps the $15 was after an 80% insurance coverage.


    I meant no insurance, since it wasn't covered for a short time.

    It was about $15 - $20
    sloth 222 2012-02-22 09:32:48.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I meant no insurance, since it wasn't covered for a short time.

    It was about $15 - $20


    30-day supply? It's been a long time since I worked in a pharmacy, but I seem to remember that we rarely sold a single pack, it was usually either a 60 or 90 day supply.
    phil_herup 8976 2012-02-22 09:37:02.0 login to vote score 0
    sloth: Numbers came from Planned Parenthood


    Can a red flag get any redder?
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:37:06.0 login to vote score 0
    sloth: 30-day supply? It's been a long time since I worked in a pharmacy, but I seem to remember that we rarely sold a single pack, it was usually either a 60 or 90 day supply.

    It was the small clamshell type package.


    fatsean 3838 2012-02-22 09:37:48.0 login to vote score 0
    I expect there will be a fight against easier access to birth control pills. One is able to use several at once to simulate that "morning after pill" apparently. The derp and herp should be pretty vigorous on that subject.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:38:54.0 login to vote score 0
    I found the article:

    "Full insurance coverage is a critical part of the picture. Birth control is an expensive product - $81 a month is considered a steal with no contribution from your insurance, but that number still prices out many women."
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:39:54.0 login to vote score 0
    fatsean: I expect there will be a fight against easier access to birth control pills. One is able to use several at once to simulate that "morning after pill" apparently. The derp and herp should be pretty vigorous on that subject.

    I'm not sure any group is fighting to restrict access to that kind of stuff. Are there any you have heard of?


    grahams 5 2012-02-22 09:41:26.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: I used to pick up my ex-wife's birth control, no prescription, for $15.

    orthotrycyclin lo or something like that.


    My ex took ortho tricyclin for a while, even with insurance and prescription it had a $20 copay for us.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:41:51.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: I found the article:

    "Full insurance coverage is a critical part of the picture. Birth control is an expensive product - $81 a month is considered a steal with no contribution from your insurance, but that number still prices out many women."


    http://health.costhelper.com/birth-control-pills.html

    Typical costs:
    For patients not covered by health insurance, birth control pills typically cost $20 to $50 a month.



    From what I have come across it also depends on the brand.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:42:55.0 login to vote score 0
    grahams: My ex took ortho tricyclin for a while, even with insurance and prescription it had a $20 copay for us.

    I am on Tramadol right now, and I paid my $10 co-pay and the insurance company paid $0. I thought that was weird.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-02-22 09:43:02.0 login to vote score 1
    phil_herup: Can a red flag get any redder?

    Absolutely. If the numbers came from Santorum's campaign, for example.
    grahams 5 2012-02-22 09:43:05.0 login to vote score 1
    Although it is available as a generic now and should be closer to flashes price, but definitely not OTC in the US
    grahams 5 2012-02-22 09:44:21.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I am on Tramadol right now, and I paid my $10 co-pay and the insurance company paid $0. I thought that was weird.

    That's particularly obnoxious. The insurance company likely negotiated a lower rate for that particular medication using their buying power.

    My recent ER trip came in at just over 1500, I need to pay 352 of that and my insurer isn't paying anything, but their contract with the hospital allowed them to get that discount
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:44:28.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: I found the article:

    "Full insurance coverage is a critical part of the picture. Birth control is an expensive product - $81 a month is considered a steal with no contribution from your insurance, but that number still prices out many women."


    Also Quin, looking at other numbers I am not taking into account the doctors visit which is probably a minimum of $50 without insurance. So if we put that in we're closer to your number. but I have a feeling they can get a prescription for a year.
    grahams 5 2012-02-22 09:46:50.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Also Quin, looking at other numbers I am not taking into account the doctors visit which is probably a minimum of $50 without insurance. So if we put that in we're closer to your number. but I have a feeling they can get a prescription for a year.

    That's a good point. If you can get to a clinic like PP then you can probably get your doctors visit for a little over $100 and a years prescription.

    If you go see a mainstream GP for a visit then you are probably looking at closer to $250/yr + $20/mo.

    Still not quite $81/month.

    Of course the photo on that story shows yasmin which is a higher end branded bc iirc
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:48:14.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Also Quin, looking at other numbers I am not taking into account the doctors visit which is probably a minimum of $50 without insurance. So if we put that in we're closer to your number. but I have a feeling they can get a prescription for a year.

    According to this, it's about $80/month, give or take a $5 or $10 depending on whether it's name brand.
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:49:16.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Also Quin, looking at other numbers I am not taking into account the doctors visit which is probably a minimum of $50 without insurance. So if we put that in we're closer to your number. but I have a feeling they can get a prescription for a year.

    And the articles I read (and referenced) don't mention anything about doc visits, just the cost of the pills per month.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-02-22 09:50:11.0 login to vote score 1
    fatsean: That's pretty funny. A shame it's not really a parallel. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised to find some religious fingersniffer trying to outlaw hysterectomies...

    Free vasectomies would be great for a lot of reasons.

    Hell, the gov should pay guys $500 cash to get snipped.

    If you want a vasectomy or need $500 that bad, it's win/win for everyone.
    sloth 222 2012-02-22 09:54:53.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: I found the article:

    "Full insurance coverage is a critical part of the picture. Birth control is an expensive product - $81 a month is considered a steal with no contribution from your insurance, but that number still prices out many women."


    Click on the link provided for where that number comes from. It's pretty clearly stating that the $81 being a steal refers to specifically Yaz in NYC. Interestingly, his source link links to a price map for birth control in New York. All the prices seem pretty high except the Trinessa, and the Yaz is off the chart. It's pretty clear the takeaway here is that Yaz in NYC is expensive.
    bake 2096 2012-02-22 09:54:56.0 login to vote score 1
    flash and derup in the same thread...tard vortex


    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 09:55:21.0 login to vote score 0
    bake: flash and derup in the same thread...tard vortex




    Our master is here, YAY
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 09:59:37.0 login to vote score 0
    sloth: Click on the link provided for where that number comes from. It's pretty clearly stating that the $81 being a steal refers to specifically Yaz in NYC. Interestingly, his source link links to a price map for birth control in New York. All the prices seem pretty high except the Trinessa, and the Yaz is off the chart. It's pretty clear the takeaway here is that Yaz in NYC is expensive.

    That price map shows an average of $68, I guess it varies there depending on where one lives?

    Here, I pay $21/month before my 80% insurance plan (through work) and the doc visits are covered by the national health care plan.
    bake 2096 2012-02-22 10:02:59.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Our master is here, YAY

    now on your knees
    funklordtoejam 1042 2012-02-22 10:11:27.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: I think birth control is about $15 - $20 a month without a prescription, and the health district gives out free condoms.

    You think wrong. Without insurance, my bc costs $80 a month.

    Which is why I buy from Canada! Yay Canada!
    funklordtoejam 1042 2012-02-22 10:14:33.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Also Quin, looking at other numbers I am not taking into account the doctors visit which is probably a minimum of $50 without insurance. So if we put that in we're closer to your number. but I have a feeling they can get a prescription for a year.

    Oh hey, I went for my yearly check up and year-long bc rx. The labs (pap smear, blood test, etc) cost $603 without insurance. The doctor charged $325 for her service. $928 for a basic Ob-gyn annual check up.

    Fuck dude, do you even realize how fucked up this whole system is?
    myinternetname 3691 2012-02-22 10:20:04.0 login to vote score 0
    What a stupid democrat bitch may look like:


    funklordtoejam 1042 2012-02-22 10:23:18.0 login to vote score 0
    sloth: Click on the link provided for where that number comes from. It's pretty clearly stating that the $81 being a steal refers to specifically Yaz in NYC. Interestingly, his source link links to a price map for birth control in New York. All the prices seem pretty high except the Trinessa, and the Yaz is off the chart. It's pretty clear the takeaway here is that Yaz in NYC is expensive.

    Oddly enough I'm on yasmin...in NYC...

    funklordtoejam 1042 2012-02-22 10:24:55.0 login to vote score 1
    *sigh*

    Shit is all fucked up and bullshit.
    sloth 222 2012-02-22 10:31:23.0 login to vote score 0
    funklordtoejam: Oddly enough I'm on yasmin...in NYC...

    Sorry, yo.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 10:35:44.0 login to vote score 0
    funklordtoejam: Oh hey, I went for my yearly check up and year-long bc rx. The labs (pap smear, blood test, etc) cost $603 without insurance. The doctor charged $325 for her service. $928 for a basic Ob-gyn annual check up.

    Fuck dude, do you even realize how fucked up this whole system is?


    I don't see it as f'd up at all, we have the best care in the world.

    I see it as inconvenient for people without insurance and expensive.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 10:36:26.0 login to vote score 0
    funklordtoejam: You think wrong. Without insurance, my bc costs $80 a month.

    Which is why I buy from Canada! Yay Canada!


    Me and a few others have posted links that show it's not that much in the US.

    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 10:36:44.0 login to vote score 0
    funklordtoejam: Oh hey, I went for my yearly check up and year-long bc rx. The labs (pap smear, blood test, etc) cost $603 without insurance. The doctor charged $325 for her service. $928 for a basic Ob-gyn annual check up.

    Fuck dude, do you even realize how fucked up this whole system is?


    That's a lot of money. How much per month would private insurance cost?
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 10:37:27.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: Me and a few others have posted links that show it's not that much in the US.

    I guess the point is it depends on where it's purchased from.
    sloth 222 2012-02-22 10:41:27.0 login to vote score 1
    quinblake: I guess the point is it depends on where it's purchased from.

    And which brand.
    bake 2096 2012-02-22 10:46:18.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: I don't see it as f'd up at all, we have the best care in the world.
    .


    source?
    code_7 6865 2012-02-22 10:55:40.0 login to vote score 1
    bake: source?

    NO! NO SOURCE FOR U!


    flashlv: Me and a few others have posted links that show it's not that much in the US.

    "You think wrong. Without insurance, my bc costs $80 a month."

    Are you saying she is a liar? Because I'll take her experience in trying to purchase the BC over you or anyone's article any day...


    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 11:03:39.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: I guess the point is it depends on where it's purchased from.

    Agree. Also depends on the brand.


    code_7: NO! NO SOURCE FOR U!




    "You think wrong. Without insurance, my bc costs $80 a month."

    Are you saying she is a liar? Because I'll take her experience in trying to purchase the BC over you or anyone's article any day...


    I didn't say that at all. I was saying that on average it is much less than that for generic.
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 11:04:18.0 login to vote score 0
    bake: source?

    Do you think we don't have the best services?
    quinblake 1476 2012-02-22 11:05:36.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Agree. Also depends on the brand.




    I didn't say that at all. I was saying that on average it is much less than that for generic.


    Can someone ask their doctor to prescribe a particular birth control pill brand or is it up to the doc?
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 11:07:04.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: Can someone ask their doctor to prescribe a particular birth control pill brand or is it up to the doc?

    I believe so, my ex-wife got a specific brand with the "lo" at the end, because it helped with other stuff.

    My last script had a check box that said, "substitute for generic" or something like that.
    bake 2096 2012-02-22 11:15:04.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Do you think we don't have the best services?

    i did not make the claim. you did
    i am asking you to back up your claim

    or you can confess bullshit righth here, right now, and we will let it drop
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 11:24:01.0 login to vote score 0
    bake: i did not make the claim. you did
    i am asking you to back up your claim

    or you can confess bullshit righth here, right now, and we will let it drop


    I use the system, we have some of the most advanced equipment in the world. We have people from all over come to the US for care.

    You're asking me to prove my opinion on how I feel about the system, how would I do that?

    stop being a jerk, please

    osirisothedead 1858 2012-02-22 11:25:34.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: You're asking me to prove my opinion on how I feel about the system, how would I do that?

    With actual data. And the plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
    flashlv 1657 2012-02-22 11:26:04.0 login to vote score 0
    Bake, when you go to the doctor of if you have a major medical problem would you rather go to a hospital in the US or another country?
    bake 2096 2012-02-22 11:27:30.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: You're asking me to prove my opinion on how I feel about the system, how would I do that?


    flashlv: I don't see it as f'd up at all, we have the best care in the world.

    I see it as inconvenient for people without insurance and expensive.



    no where do i see an opinion stated
    say what you mean and mean what you say

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