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it's funny when you read satire and can't tell if it's REALLY satire
baron muchhumpin: it's funny when you read satire and can't tell if it's REALLY satire
Which is why he won't get nominated.
Which is why he won't get nominated.
the sonic dildo: Which is why he won't get nominated.
So we should completely ignore the fact that he wants to turn the US into a theocracy and that half the GOP is drooling over him.
So we should completely ignore the fact that he wants to turn the US into a theocracy and that half the GOP is drooling over him.
baron muchhumpin: it's funny when you read satire and can't tell if it's REALLY satire
Bit of a Poe's Law situation right there.
Bit of a Poe's Law situation right there.
abt12monk: So we should completely ignore the fact that he wants to turn the US into a theocracy and that half the GOP is drooling over him.
Yep.
The droolers will not for Obama anyway. They will vote for Romney. It is how Romney appeals to the moderates that can win over the oh so crucial independent vote.
Yep.
The droolers will not for Obama anyway. They will vote for Romney. It is how Romney appeals to the moderates that can win over the oh so crucial independent vote.
abt12monk: So we should completely ignore the fact that he wants to turn the US into a theocracy and that half the GOP is drooling frothing over him.
the sonic dildo: Yep.
The droolers will not for Obama anyway. They will vote for Romney. It is how Romney appeals to the moderates that can win over the oh so crucial independent vote.
I wouldn't expect them to vote for Obama. But it's incredibly disturbing that a big enough chunk of the US agrees enough with Frothy that he has enough support to even be in the running.
Even if GOPers like yourself dislike Santorum, the fact is that you and others like you put yourselves under the same political umbrella as that shitstain. And if a viable, reasonable GOP candidate existed, just by voting for him/her you'd be indirectly giving Santorum and his ilk more power, because that's the way US politics works.
The droolers will not for Obama anyway. They will vote for Romney. It is how Romney appeals to the moderates that can win over the oh so crucial independent vote.
I wouldn't expect them to vote for Obama. But it's incredibly disturbing that a big enough chunk of the US agrees enough with Frothy that he has enough support to even be in the running.
Even if GOPers like yourself dislike Santorum, the fact is that you and others like you put yourselves under the same political umbrella as that shitstain. And if a viable, reasonable GOP candidate existed, just by voting for him/her you'd be indirectly giving Santorum and his ilk more power, because that's the way US politics works.
abt12monk: t it's incredibly disturbing that a big enough chunk of the US agrees enough with Frothy that he has enough support to even be in the running.
It is not as disturbing as the huge chunk of the US who thinks Obama has been a good President. Willful ignorance and a corrupt press excuse his politics of division and class warfare combined with his polices that have prolonged the nation's economic recovery.
abt12monk: if a viable, reasonable GOP candidate existed, just by voting for him/her you'd be indirectly giving Santorum and his ilk more power, because that's the way US politics works.
One does exist. His name is Mitt Romney. He is viable, and he is reasonable. The Dems can't even really come up with any valid criticisms of him. They want to face anyone but Romney in the general election.
It is not as disturbing as the huge chunk of the US who thinks Obama has been a good President. Willful ignorance and a corrupt press excuse his politics of division and class warfare combined with his polices that have prolonged the nation's economic recovery.
abt12monk: if a viable, reasonable GOP candidate existed, just by voting for him/her you'd be indirectly giving Santorum and his ilk more power, because that's the way US politics works.
One does exist. His name is Mitt Romney. He is viable, and he is reasonable. The Dems can't even really come up with any valid criticisms of him. They want to face anyone but Romney in the general election.
abt12monk: I wouldn't expect them to vote for Obama. But it's incredibly disturbing that a big enough chunk of the US agrees enough with Frothy that he has enough support to even be in the running.
Even if GOPers like yourself dislike Santorum, the fact is that you and others like you put yourselves under the same political umbrella as that shitstain. And if a viable, reasonable GOP candidate existed, just by voting for him/her you'd be indirectly giving Santorum and his ilk more power, because that's the way US politics works.
The southern evangelist fundies will hold their noses and vote for a Catholic before they'll ever give a Mormon the time of day, so that's one more base segment that Romney won't have. They'll just sit home in November on election day.
In the south, religion trumps racism.
Even if GOPers like yourself dislike Santorum, the fact is that you and others like you put yourselves under the same political umbrella as that shitstain. And if a viable, reasonable GOP candidate existed, just by voting for him/her you'd be indirectly giving Santorum and his ilk more power, because that's the way US politics works.
The southern evangelist fundies will hold their noses and vote for a Catholic before they'll ever give a Mormon the time of day, so that's one more base segment that Romney won't have. They'll just sit home in November on election day.
In the south, religion trumps racism.
the sonic dildo: Which is why he won't get nominated.
The fact that he is this close to getting the nomination is disturbing enough for some of us.
The fact that he is this close to getting the nomination is disturbing enough for some of us.
the sonic dildo: It is not as disturbing as the huge chunk of the US who thinks Obama has been a good President.
The fact that you think that Obama is more terrifying than Santorum showcases how violently we disagree on nearly everything.
The fact that you think that Obama is more terrifying than Santorum showcases how violently we disagree on nearly everything.
quick1: The fact that he is this close to getting the nomination is disturbing enough for some of us.
And the problem is, possibly, how much he makes unthinkable ideas seem mainstream for his followers.
And the problem is, possibly, how much he makes unthinkable ideas seem mainstream for his followers.
pajamas: The fact that you think that Obama is more terrifying than Santorum showcases how violently we disagree on nearly everything.
actually it just shows how boring phil has become. there's no honest discussion about actual topics, it's just "but obama sucks too!! wahwahhahahawahh"
which isn't the actual topic of this thread
can we strike phil's anti-obama comments in any non-obama thread as threadjacking?
actually it just shows how boring phil has become. there's no honest discussion about actual topics, it's just "but obama sucks too!! wahwahhahahawahh"
which isn't the actual topic of this thread
can we strike phil's anti-obama comments in any non-obama thread as threadjacking?
baron muchhumpin: actually it just shows how boring phil has become. there's no honest discussion about actual topics, it's just "but obama sucks too!! wahwahhahahawahh"
which isn't the actual topic of this thread
can we strike phil's anti-obama comments in any non-obama thread as threadjacking?
His STFU ratio would be over 9000.
which isn't the actual topic of this thread
can we strike phil's anti-obama comments in any non-obama thread as threadjacking?
His STFU ratio would be over 9000.
the sonic dildo: It is not as disturbing as the huge chunk of the US who thinks Obama has been a good President. Willful ignorance and a corrupt press excuse his politics of division and class warfare combined with his polices that have prolonged the nation's economic recovery.
I don't consider anything that he's done as inciting class warfare.
And there's no way anyone can argue that what he's done has delayed the recovery, because frankly, no one knows how long it would have last. And I really don't think the recovery is taking excessively long, given the situation before it started.
the sonic dildo: One does exist. His name is Mitt Romney. He is viable, and he is reasonable. The Dems can't even really come up with any valid criticisms of him. They want to face anyone but Romney in the general election.
Mitt Romney isn't reasonable.
He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American.
He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons.
He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
He's not concerned about the poor.
And that's is only the beginning.
I don't consider anything that he's done as inciting class warfare.
And there's no way anyone can argue that what he's done has delayed the recovery, because frankly, no one knows how long it would have last. And I really don't think the recovery is taking excessively long, given the situation before it started.
the sonic dildo: One does exist. His name is Mitt Romney. He is viable, and he is reasonable. The Dems can't even really come up with any valid criticisms of him. They want to face anyone but Romney in the general election.
Mitt Romney isn't reasonable.
He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American.
He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons.
He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
He's not concerned about the poor.
And that's is only the beginning.
abt12monk: I don't consider anything that he's done as inciting class warfare..
I know you are not stupid, so I am going to have to go with you are being dishonest on this one. He is tremendously divisive.
abt12monk: Mitt Romney isn't reasonable Huh?
abt12monk: He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American..
He will never even initiate anything against Roe V Wade. I don't know how many times the pandering the the bible bangers was a necessary evil to get the nomination. He really does not give a shit.
Like Obama knew anything about being an average Amercian. The guy never even held a an actual job his whole life.
Romney gave away his inheritance and rose from nothing to be come the muliti-millionaire he is. He is no average American.
BBL
I know you are not stupid, so I am going to have to go with you are being dishonest on this one. He is tremendously divisive.
abt12monk: Mitt Romney isn't reasonable Huh?
abt12monk: He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American..
He will never even initiate anything against Roe V Wade. I don't know how many times the pandering the the bible bangers was a necessary evil to get the nomination. He really does not give a shit.
Like Obama knew anything about being an average Amercian. The guy never even held a an actual job his whole life.
Romney gave away his inheritance and rose from nothing to be come the muliti-millionaire he is. He is no average American.
BBL
abt12monk: I don't consider anything that he's done as inciting class warfare.
And there's no way anyone can argue that what he's done has delayed the recovery, because frankly, no one knows how long it would have last. And I really don't think the recovery is taking excessively long, given the situation before it started.
Mitt Romney isn't reasonable.
He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American.
He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons.
He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
He's not concerned about the poor.
And that's is only the beginning.
I'll betcha $10,000 he's singing a different tune (IE: LYING) during the general election
/am i out of touch?
And there's no way anyone can argue that what he's done has delayed the recovery, because frankly, no one knows how long it would have last. And I really don't think the recovery is taking excessively long, given the situation before it started.
Mitt Romney isn't reasonable.
He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American.
He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons.
He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
He's not concerned about the poor.
And that's is only the beginning.
I'll betcha $10,000 he's singing a different tune (IE: LYING) during the general election
/am i out of touch?
abt12monk:
He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American.
He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons.
He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
He's not concerned about the poor.
And that's is only the beginning.
Amazing how phil managed to ignore all of this.
He's pro-life and has said he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He's also against gay marriage.
He's completely out of touch doesn't know what it's like to be an average American.
He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons.
He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
He's not concerned about the poor.
And that's is only the beginning.
Amazing how phil managed to ignore all of this.
quick1: Amazing how phil managed to ignore all of this.
when he doesn't have a response he suddenly "gets busy".. or he's tying a VERY long response which can be summarized with, 'you're a stupid lib'
when he doesn't have a response he suddenly "gets busy".. or he's tying a VERY long response which can be summarized with, 'you're a stupid lib'
abt12monk: He thinks corporations are people.
He wants more privatization of prisons..
Corporations are made of people
Well, he won't be able to do a whole lot about privatization of prisons, so who cares?
abt12monk: He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
Obama also likes the War on Drugs
Gitmo needs to stay open. This is a fact that Obama found out himself.
abt12monk: He's not concerned about the poor.
Do you mean the poor in the USA? The richest fattest most "entitled" poor on Earth. The ones who have the biggest safety net ever? That poor.
Please.... you sound like Maddow
He wants more privatization of prisons..
Corporations are made of people
Well, he won't be able to do a whole lot about privatization of prisons, so who cares?
abt12monk: He opposes ending the drug war.
He wants to keep Guantanamo open.
Obama also likes the War on Drugs
Gitmo needs to stay open. This is a fact that Obama found out himself.
abt12monk: He's not concerned about the poor.
Do you mean the poor in the USA? The richest fattest most "entitled" poor on Earth. The ones who have the biggest safety net ever? That poor.
Please.... you sound like Maddow
abt12monk: there's no way anyone can argue that what he's done has delayed the recovery, because frankly, no one knows how long it would have last. And I really don't think the recovery is taking excessively long, given the situation before it started.
LOL.... Obama IGNORED the economic recovery for 2 years while he focused on ObamaCare. The ill thought and even worse executed STIMULUS was nothing more than paybacks to unions and crony capitalism. The Green Jobs was a waste and the staggering debt destroyed our credit rating. The inflation and the devaluation of our currency has allowed us to witness a tremendous rise in gas prices that he actually wants. The signing of Dodd-Frank has created a money lending mess in the real estate and business market.
Please.
LOL.... Obama IGNORED the economic recovery for 2 years while he focused on ObamaCare. The ill thought and even worse executed STIMULUS was nothing more than paybacks to unions and crony capitalism. The Green Jobs was a waste and the staggering debt destroyed our credit rating. The inflation and the devaluation of our currency has allowed us to witness a tremendous rise in gas prices that he actually wants. The signing of Dodd-Frank has created a money lending mess in the real estate and business market.
Please.
baron muchhumpin: I'll betcha $10,000 he's singing a different tune (IE: LYING) during the general election
/am i out of touch?
He crushed it in your state last night. A liberal state voted over 70% for him. He also did well in communist VT. He appeals to independent voters.
You carry so much water for Obama, yet you call yourself an "independent". LOL
/am i out of touch?
He crushed it in your state last night. A liberal state voted over 70% for him. He also did well in communist VT. He appeals to independent voters.
You carry so much water for Obama, yet you call yourself an "independent". LOL
baron muchhumpin: it's funny when you read satire and can't tell if it's REALLY satire
Unless, y'know, you happen to look at the URL.
Unless, y'know, you happen to look at the URL.
the sonic dildo: He crushed it in your state last night. A liberal state voted over 70% for him. He also did well in communist VT. He appeals to independent voters.You carry so much water for Obama, yet you call yourself an "independent". LOL
I'll always think of Mitt Romney as an early Replicant prototype in which they haven't yet gotten all the kinks worked out.
I'll always think of Mitt Romney as an early Replicant prototype in which they haven't yet gotten all the kinks worked out.
the sonic dildo: He crushed it in your state last night. A liberal state voted over 70% for him. He also did well in communist VT. He appeals to independent voters.
You carry so much water for Obama, yet you call yourself an "independent". LOL
your logic is VERY flawed. He does not resonate with independents as much as Santorum is very much what we despise as a candidate
nice try
You carry so much water for Obama, yet you call yourself an "independent". LOL
your logic is VERY flawed. He does not resonate with independents as much as Santorum is very much what we despise as a candidate
nice try
again, bringing up the "water carrying" shit will just get you a super iggy on my laptop like you are at home
you are useless as a poster, add ZERO value, and i don't miss reading your boring rhetoric
you are useless as a poster, add ZERO value, and i don't miss reading your boring rhetoric
the sonic dildo: LOL.... Obama IGNORED the economic recovery for 2 years while he focused on ObamaCare. The ill thought and even worse executed STIMULUS was nothing more than paybacks to unions and crony capitalism. The Green Jobs was a waste and the staggering debt destroyed our credit rating. The inflation and the devaluation of our currency has allowed us to witness a tremendous rise in gas prices that he actually wants. The signing of Dodd-Frank has created a money lending mess in the real estate and business market.
Please.
so Obama DIDN'T sign the Recovery Act in 2009? REally philtard?
fuck you're stupid
Please.
so Obama DIDN'T sign the Recovery Act in 2009? REally philtard?
fuck you're stupid
baron muchhumpin: so Obama DIDN'T sign the Recovery Act in 2009? REally philtard?fuck you're stupid
The Recovery Act led to a Recovery like the Patriot Act led to Patriotism.
Are you people fucking retarded?
The Recovery Act led to a Recovery like the Patriot Act led to Patriotism.
Are you people fucking retarded?
czarangelus: The Recovery Act led to a Recovery like the Patriot Act led to Patriotism.
Are you people fucking retarded?
just because you don't like it doesn't change reality
The jobs bleeding stopped neat May - clearly a failure...
keep sucking GOP cock
Are you people fucking retarded?
just because you don't like it doesn't change reality
The jobs bleeding stopped neat May - clearly a failure...
keep sucking GOP cock
when did the onion start publishing true journalism?
baron muchhumpin: just because you don't like it doesn't change realityThe jobs bleeding stopped neat May - clearly a failure...keep sucking GOP cock
No it didn't. All the unemployed fell off the rolls. UH DUH. If unemployment were measured as it was under Clinton, it'd be >15%. UH DUH. And if you don't believe me, just look at the EVER INCREASING number of people on food stamps
Or the EMPLOYMENT rate dumbass
No it didn't. All the unemployed fell off the rolls. UH DUH. If unemployment were measured as it was under Clinton, it'd be >15%. UH DUH. And if you don't believe me, just look at the EVER INCREASING number of people on food stamps
Or the EMPLOYMENT rate dumbass
the sonic dildo: LOL.... Obama IGNORED the economic recovery for 2 years while he focused on ObamaCare. The ill thought and even worse executed STIMULUS was nothing more than paybacks to unions and crony capitalism..
So, he ignored the economy except for that whole giant stimulus package thing. And that package was just a payout to unions, except for the part where a large portion of the stimulus was tax cuts.
Wait, what?
So, he ignored the economy except for that whole giant stimulus package thing. And that package was just a payout to unions, except for the part where a large portion of the stimulus was tax cuts.
Wait, what?
sigh.. do you know it's 2012 czar? all you do is spout silver and unemployment
sure, the participation rate is down
if you look at the 700k jobs per month we WERE LOSING UNDER BUSH, compared to MAY 2009 - which one is lower?
you fucking conspiracy theory living sack of useless gerbil shit
sure, the participation rate is down
if you look at the 700k jobs per month we WERE LOSING UNDER BUSH, compared to MAY 2009 - which one is lower?
you fucking conspiracy theory living sack of useless gerbil shit
baron muchhumpin: again, bringing up the "water carrying" shit will just get you a super iggy on my laptop like you are at home
you are useless as a poster, add ZERO value, and i don't miss reading your boring rhetoric
Meh.... I know this shit.
you are useless as a poster, add ZERO value, and i don't miss reading your boring rhetoric
Meh.... I know this shit.
baron muchhumpin: sigh.. do you know it's 2012 czar? all you do is spout silver and unemploymentsure, the participation rate is downif you look at the 700k jobs per month we WERE LOSING UNDER BUSH, compared to MAY 2009 - which one is lower?you fucking conspiracy theory living sack of useless gerbil shit
CHARTS AND FACTS sure suck ass when you're so clearly wrong, don't they? Things are getting worse and everybody who works for a living knows it.
CHARTS AND FACTS sure suck ass when you're so clearly wrong, don't they? Things are getting worse and everybody who works for a living knows it.
The thing that sucks about Santorum is that you can't even make fun of him because he's so extreme that it's the truth.
czarangelus: CHARTS AND FACTS sure suck ass when you're so clearly wrong, don't they? Things are getting worse and everybody who works for a living knows it.
clearly wrong? in what i said? Nope.
Things are great, jobs are increasing, you're candidates don't have a chance in hell, and i'm laughing at how retarded you are
you are one of the stupidest people on this site
SILVER!!
UFOs!!!
out of body experiences!!!
the world of czar the freak
clearly wrong? in what i said? Nope.
Things are great, jobs are increasing, you're candidates don't have a chance in hell, and i'm laughing at how retarded you are
you are one of the stupidest people on this site
SILVER!!
UFOs!!!
out of body experiences!!!
the world of czar the freak
quick1: So, he ignored the economy except for that whole giant stimulus package thing. And that package was just a payout to unions, except for the part where a large portion of the stimulus was tax cuts.
Wait, what?
Oh the "tax cuts" nonsense. Giving the tiniest of tax cuts to people who barely paid taxes so you can call it a "tax cut" .
The rest was union pandering and crony capitalism with the not so shovel ready bullshit.
Stimulus = fail
Wait, what?
Oh the "tax cuts" nonsense. Giving the tiniest of tax cuts to people who barely paid taxes so you can call it a "tax cut" .
The rest was union pandering and crony capitalism with the not so shovel ready bullshit.
Stimulus = fail
the sonic dildo: Meh.... I know this shit.
and i KNOW you are a card carrying member of the GOP party, suck their cock all day
so your statements are null and void as you only state one position ever
and i KNOW you are a card carrying member of the GOP party, suck their cock all day
so your statements are null and void as you only state one position ever
czarangelus: CHARTS AND FACTS sure suck ass when you're so clearly wrong, don't they? Things are getting worse and everybody who works for a living knows it.
I work for a living and I got raises! Things are looking up over at my house.
I work for a living and I got raises! Things are looking up over at my house.
the sonic dildo: Oh the "tax cuts" nonsense. Giving the tiniest of tax cuts to people who barely paid taxes so you can call it a "tax cut" .
The rest was union pandering and crony capitalism with the not so shovel ready bullshit.
Stimulus = fail
hahahha - fail because we need to say it failed otherwise we can't win in NOV!!!
hahahahahaha - suck it phil, you fail every day
The rest was union pandering and crony capitalism with the not so shovel ready bullshit.
Stimulus = fail
hahahha - fail because we need to say it failed otherwise we can't win in NOV!!!
hahahahahaha - suck it phil, you fail every day
baron muchhumpin: clearly wrong? in what i said? Nope.Things are great, jobs are increasing, you're candidates don't have a chance in hell, and i'm laughing at how retarded you areyou are one of the stupidest people on this siteSILVER!!UFOs!!!out of body experiences!!!the world of czar the freak
If this is your idea of a successful jobs program, you're a stupid as I think you are.
And just for the lulz
If this is your idea of a successful jobs program, you're a stupid as I think you are.
And just for the lulz
fatsean: I work for a living and I got raises! Things are looking up over at my house.
Was your raise 8-10%? Then it didn't cover rising energy and food costs.
Was your raise 8-10%? Then it didn't cover rising energy and food costs.
as i've said before car the retard, the POTUS does NOT CREATE JOBS
how stupid are you?? You want Obama to create jobs, then those wil be FEDERAL JOBS - get it?? dumbass
Federal jobs are SHRINKING, therefore the increases are in the PRIVATE sector.
facts, you don't have them
how stupid are you?? You want Obama to create jobs, then those wil be FEDERAL JOBS - get it?? dumbass
Federal jobs are SHRINKING, therefore the increases are in the PRIVATE sector.
facts, you don't have them
czarangelus: Was your raise 8-10%? Then it didn't cover rising energy and food costs.
which would be SOOOOO different under any other POTUS
really?
which would be SOOOOO different under any other POTUS
really?
baron muchhumpin: as i've said before car the retard, the POTUS does NOT CREATE JOBShow stupid are you?? You want Obama to create jobs, then those wil be FEDERAL JOBS - get it?? dumbassFederal jobs are SHRINKING, therefore the increases are in the PRIVATE sector.facts, you don't have them
I don't want him to create jobs. I want him to stop printing money. His Raeganite fiscal policy of trickle down economics has been a disaster for this country. The idea that the success of the working class is dependent on the success of a handful of hedge funds and conglomorate banks who gambled with our money on exotic financial instruments they knew would fail - is patently stupid. We don't get spending money from corporations. We shouldn't expect corporations to be the beneficent providers of wealth - because they're not. Prosperity comes from being able to sell your labor to corporations at the highest rate you can get, a rate radically depressed by Obama's Reaganite economics.
I don't want him to create jobs. I want him to stop printing money. His Raeganite fiscal policy of trickle down economics has been a disaster for this country. The idea that the success of the working class is dependent on the success of a handful of hedge funds and conglomorate banks who gambled with our money on exotic financial instruments they knew would fail - is patently stupid. We don't get spending money from corporations. We shouldn't expect corporations to be the beneficent providers of wealth - because they're not. Prosperity comes from being able to sell your labor to corporations at the highest rate you can get, a rate radically depressed by Obama's Reaganite economics.
baron muchhumpin: so Obama DIDN'T sign the Recovery Act in 2009? REally philtard?
fuck you're stupid
Not only am I not stupid, my answer included mentioning the "Recovery" Act of 2009 and pre-denounced your silly attempt to deny I said it, and explained it was ill thought and poorly executed.
They slammed together union paybacks and some other bullshit to the tune of nearly a Trillion dollars and crossed their fingers. Then they went full retard on Obamacare.
So yes, he ignored the economy.
fuck you're stupid
Not only am I not stupid, my answer included mentioning the "Recovery" Act of 2009 and pre-denounced your silly attempt to deny I said it, and explained it was ill thought and poorly executed.
They slammed together union paybacks and some other bullshit to the tune of nearly a Trillion dollars and crossed their fingers. Then they went full retard on Obamacare.
So yes, he ignored the economy.
baron muchhumpin: which would be SOOOOO different under any other POTUSreally?
Gasoline prices are DROPPING if you trade silver for gas. Dropping by quite a lot. How is that possible, hm?
Gasoline prices are DROPPING if you trade silver for gas. Dropping by quite a lot. How is that possible, hm?
the sonic dildo: Yep.
The droolers will not for Obama anyway. They will vote for Romney. It is how Romney appeals to the moderates that can win over the oh so crucial independent vote.
Romney was against theocracy before he was for it.
Seriously, the guy is John Kerry without all the credentials.
The droolers will not for Obama anyway. They will vote for Romney. It is how Romney appeals to the moderates that can win over the oh so crucial independent vote.
Romney was against theocracy before he was for it.
Seriously, the guy is John Kerry without all the credentials.
czarangelus: Gasoline prices are DROPPING if you trade silver for gas. Dropping by quite a lot. How is that possible, hm?
so if i use something that isn't a currency today as my mechanism to buy a commodity, since that "thing" is increasing in value i can buy more?
really?
wow.. get right on that... any other completely unrealistic analogies you want to type up?
so if i use something that isn't a currency today as my mechanism to buy a commodity, since that "thing" is increasing in value i can buy more?
really?
wow.. get right on that... any other completely unrealistic analogies you want to type up?
czarangelus: CHARTS AND FACTS sure suck ass when you're so clearly wrong, don't they? Things are getting worse and everybody who works for a living knows it.
Anyone can post two charts and sloppily correlate the data.
Anyone can post two charts and sloppily correlate the data.
czarangelus: Gasoline prices are DROPPING if you trade silver for gas. Dropping by quite a lot. How is that possible, hm?
Because you are comparing two independent commodity markets. You may as well compare gasoline to pork belly futures for all the sense it makes.
Because you are comparing two independent commodity markets. You may as well compare gasoline to pork belly futures for all the sense it makes.
baron muchhumpin: hahahha - fail because we need to say it failed otherwise we can't win in NOV!!!
hahahahahaha - suck it phil, you fail every day
You lack the ability and facts to win baron. You can continue to exist in Fantasy Land, but you have not been able to counter me in any way with truth.
You are supporting a failed Presidency and wish it to continue. By no measure has he earned another term.
hahahahahaha - suck it phil, you fail every day
You lack the ability and facts to win baron. You can continue to exist in Fantasy Land, but you have not been able to counter me in any way with truth.
You are supporting a failed Presidency and wish it to continue. By no measure has he earned another term.
baron muchhumpin: so if i use something that isn't a currency today as my mechanism to buy a commodity, since that "thing" is increasing in value i can buy more?really?wow.. get right on that... any other completely unrealistic analogies you want to type up?
If you sell your silver ETF today you can still buy more gasoline with the cash. Pls explain.
If you sell your silver ETF today you can still buy more gasoline with the cash. Pls explain.
the sonic dildo: Not only am I not stupid, my answer included mentioning the "Recovery" Act of 2009 and pre-denounced your silly attempt to deny I said it, and explained it was ill thought and poorly executed.
They slammed together union paybacks and some other bullshit to the tune of nearly a Trillion dollars and crossed their fingers. Then they went full retard on Obamacare.
So yes, he ignored the economy.
blah blah, i don't like it so i say it didn't work
isn't it time for you to post that your buttbuddy McCain said we dindn't have to do any stimulus?? Another great thing to say, and can NEVER be PROVEN out...
They slammed together union paybacks and some other bullshit to the tune of nearly a Trillion dollars and crossed their fingers. Then they went full retard on Obamacare.
So yes, he ignored the economy.
blah blah, i don't like it so i say it didn't work
isn't it time for you to post that your buttbuddy McCain said we dindn't have to do any stimulus?? Another great thing to say, and can NEVER be PROVEN out...
czarangelus: If you sell your silver ETF today you can still buy more gasoline with the cash. Pls explain.
If i sold my BAC stock I could by more gas than before I invested in it - explain?
If i sold my BAC stock I could by more gas than before I invested in it - explain?
zanexero: Anyone can post two charts and sloppily correlate the data.
Are we discussing the Anthropogenic Global Warming movement now?
Are we discussing the Anthropogenic Global Warming movement now?
gradivus: Because you are comparing two independent commodity markets. You may as well compare gasoline to pork belly futures for all the sense it makes.
I would imagine pork belly futures to be a good investment if I could buy 3x as much gasoline with it in a decade as opposed to .5x as much if I'd stuffed dollars under my mattress.
I also notice an odd silence about Obama's blatant Reaganomics...
I would imagine pork belly futures to be a good investment if I could buy 3x as much gasoline with it in a decade as opposed to .5x as much if I'd stuffed dollars under my mattress.
I also notice an odd silence about Obama's blatant Reaganomics...
czarangelus: CHARTS AND FACTS sure suck ass when you're so clearly wrong, don't they? Things are getting worse and everybody who works for a living knows it.
Anyone can post two charts and sloppily correlate the data.
czarangelus: If this is your idea of a successful jobs program, you're a stupid as I think you are.
And just for the lulz
It's generally advisable to source your data.
Anyone can post two charts and sloppily correlate the data.
czarangelus: If this is your idea of a successful jobs program, you're a stupid as I think you are.
And just for the lulz
It's generally advisable to source your data.
baron muchhumpin: If i sold my BAC stock I could by more gas than before I invested in it - explain?
Well, then I guess you didn't get in when Cramer was pushing the stock at 30. The stock WOULD be at 0, where it belongs, if the government didn't keep interfering.
Well, then I guess you didn't get in when Cramer was pushing the stock at 30. The stock WOULD be at 0, where it belongs, if the government didn't keep interfering.
czarangelus: Well, then I guess you didn't get in when Cramer was pushing the stock at 30. The stock WOULD be at 0, where it belongs, if the government didn't keep interfering.
i'm in at $5.05 dumbass... suck on that for a while
i'm in at $5.05 dumbass... suck on that for a while
baron muchhumpin: i'm in at $5.05 dumbass... suck on that for a while
I'd pull out now while Warren Buffet's billions are still clouding up proper valuation. That's the great tragedy of men like you - you end up believing your own horse shit, instead of taking the money and running while you cna.
I'd pull out now while Warren Buffet's billions are still clouding up proper valuation. That's the great tragedy of men like you - you end up believing your own horse shit, instead of taking the money and running while you cna.
czarangelus: I would imagine pork belly futures to be a good investment if I could buy 3x as much gasoline with it in a decade as opposed to .5x as much if I'd stuffed dollars under my mattress.
I also notice an odd silence about Obama's blatant Reaganomics...
Yes, some things trade at different rates than other due to a complex supply/demand relationship and external market forces as well as blatant manipulation.
Also, I already told you all I am voting Vermin Supreme, Obama lost my vote right around the time he caved on the health care bill.
I also notice an odd silence about Obama's blatant Reaganomics...
Yes, some things trade at different rates than other due to a complex supply/demand relationship and external market forces as well as blatant manipulation.
Also, I already told you all I am voting Vermin Supreme, Obama lost my vote right around the time he caved on the health care bill.
czarangelus: I'd pull out now while Warren Buffet's billions are still clouding up proper valuation. That's the great tragedy of men like you - you end up believing your own horse shit, instead of taking the money and running while you cna.
or people like ME who have been trading for 10+ years understand how to do it... a simple stop-loss order preserves my 50%+ gain
or people like ME who have been trading for 10+ years understand how to do it... a simple stop-loss order preserves my 50%+ gain
baron muchhumpin: or people like ME who have been trading for 10+ years understand how to do it... a simple stop-loss order preserves my 50%+ gain
So enjoy Warren Buffet's money. But don't pretend that's a real strategy, especially when you're valuing it in a currency that's depreciating by 8% a year by CONSERVATIVE estimation.
So enjoy Warren Buffet's money. But don't pretend that's a real strategy, especially when you're valuing it in a currency that's depreciating by 8% a year by CONSERVATIVE estimation.
czarangelus: So enjoy Warren Buffet's money. But don't pretend that's a real strategy, especially when you're valuing it in a currency that's depreciating by 8% a year by CONSERVATIVE estimation.
so i shouldn't make money because Buffett invested in it? Are you for real?
God, only an idiot wouldn't take advantage of the situation
so i shouldn't make money because Buffett invested in it? Are you for real?
God, only an idiot wouldn't take advantage of the situation
baron muchhumpin: so i shouldn't make money because Buffett invested in it? Are you for real?God, only an idiot wouldn't take advantage of the situation
That's all you're doing. Taking advantage of. That's not a strategy for long term prosperity, it's a scorched earth tactic in a losing fight. Don't get confused and forget it. Don't forget what MotherFucker Global proved, either - no matter what your contracts say, if it comes to you or AIG, you'll get paid last.
That's all you're doing. Taking advantage of. That's not a strategy for long term prosperity, it's a scorched earth tactic in a losing fight. Don't get confused and forget it. Don't forget what MotherFucker Global proved, either - no matter what your contracts say, if it comes to you or AIG, you'll get paid last.
czarangelus: That's all you're doing. Taking advantage of. That's not a strategy for long term prosperity, it's a scorched earth tactic in a losing fight. Don't get confused and forget it. Don't forget what MotherFucker Global proved, either - no matter what your contracts say, if it comes to you or AIG, you'll get paid last.
does your shadow scare you too?
does your shadow scare you too?
baron muchhumpin: does your shadow scare you too?
are you really that low on anything intelligent to say?
are you really that low on anything intelligent to say?
czarangelus: are you really that low on anything intelligent to say?
nah, i don't really care for anything you type.
you have lots of excuses for sitting behind your KB and not doing anything, lots of loosely tied together theories on the evils of the world blah blah blah
I'm more of a doer - I take in data, analyze it, make decisions and ACT
you are paralyzed
nah, i don't really care for anything you type.
you have lots of excuses for sitting behind your KB and not doing anything, lots of loosely tied together theories on the evils of the world blah blah blah
I'm more of a doer - I take in data, analyze it, make decisions and ACT
you are paralyzed
baron muchhumpin: nah, i don't really care for anything you type.you have lots of excuses for sitting behind your KB and not doing anything, lots of loosely tied together theories on the evils of the world blah blah blahI'm more of a doer - I take in data, analyze it, make decisions and ACTyou are paralyzed
Look, I could also hitch a ride on the coattails of government backed corporations becuase Zero Hedge reports faster than MSNBC and the gods know the MSNBC crowd can be convinced to give money to anything. I don't, but I don't begrudge the people who do. I just want them to realize that that's what they're doing, and it's nothing like a successful economic model, and it's ultimately impoverishing the people at the bottom. Because that's what it was designed to do. Don't pretend it works differently than that, or I really won't respect you.
Look, I could also hitch a ride on the coattails of government backed corporations becuase Zero Hedge reports faster than MSNBC and the gods know the MSNBC crowd can be convinced to give money to anything. I don't, but I don't begrudge the people who do. I just want them to realize that that's what they're doing, and it's nothing like a successful economic model, and it's ultimately impoverishing the people at the bottom. Because that's what it was designed to do. Don't pretend it works differently than that, or I really won't respect you.
czarangelus: Look, I could also hitch a ride on the coattails of government backed corporations becuase Zero Hedge reports faster than MSNBC and the gods know the MSNBC crowd can be convinced to give money to anything. I don't, but I don't begrudge the people who do. I just want them to realize that that's what they're doing, and it's nothing like a successful economic model, and it's ultimately impoverishing the people at the bottom. Because that's what it was designed to do. Don't pretend it works differently than that, or I really won't respect you.
wow.. you really have me in a pickle.. accept your viewpoint, or you won't respect me...
can i get back to you later?
I need to go sell some shit to a company for $1.2million.. they really don't need it, but I'm that good that they'll buy it
after I get my ridiculous bonus check i'll let you know my position
wow.. you really have me in a pickle.. accept your viewpoint, or you won't respect me...
can i get back to you later?
I need to go sell some shit to a company for $1.2million.. they really don't need it, but I'm that good that they'll buy it
after I get my ridiculous bonus check i'll let you know my position
baron muchhumpin: wow.. you really have me in a pickle.. accept your viewpoint, or you won't respect me...can i get back to you later?I need to go sell some shit to a company for $1.2million.. they really don't need it, but I'm that good that they'll buy itafter I get my ridiculous bonus check i'll let you know my position
Fine, but don't for one fucking second even pretend that this is actually good for the vast percentage of the people whose taxpayer dollars backstop the corporations making these poor or unnecessary decisions. Don't fucking act like you're the savior of the economy or that Obama's policies have been good for the poor and middle classes, because they haven't. Admit you're marginally better than a highwayman, that the economic model that supports your behavior is wildly unsound, and that you should take the money, run, and keep your mouth shut about it.
Fine, but don't for one fucking second even pretend that this is actually good for the vast percentage of the people whose taxpayer dollars backstop the corporations making these poor or unnecessary decisions. Don't fucking act like you're the savior of the economy or that Obama's policies have been good for the poor and middle classes, because they haven't. Admit you're marginally better than a highwayman, that the economic model that supports your behavior is wildly unsound, and that you should take the money, run, and keep your mouth shut about it.
gradivus: I already told you all I am voting Vermin Supreme, Obama lost my vote right around the time he caved on the health care bill.
You really like your authoritarians don't you?
Obama and Vermin both love mandates "for the greater good".
You really like your authoritarians don't you?
Obama and Vermin both love mandates "for the greater good".
paranoyd: It did.
Sure it worked. BOA stock is up to $8ish dollars isn't it? That's fucking success, right?
Sure it worked. BOA stock is up to $8ish dollars isn't it? That's fucking success, right?
Bloody thorn of Christ, sure it worked. Look up "subprime auto loan." That's fucking real success.
What part of "trolling" do you idiots not understand?
czarangelus: Bloody thorn of Christ, sure it worked. Look up "subprime auto loan." That's fucking real success.
Wahhh shit is happening around me and I can't benefit from it so it sucks!!
Wahhh shit is happening around me and I can't benefit from it so it sucks!!
baron muchhumpin: Wahhh shit is happening around me and I can't benefit from it so it sucks!!
I can't benefit from it because I have a different idea of what it means to benefit. Guess what? Bubonic plague didn't give a shit about how rich you were.
I can't benefit from it because I have a different idea of what it means to benefit. Guess what? Bubonic plague didn't give a shit about how rich you were.
czarangelus: That's all you're doing. Taking advantage of. That's not a strategy for long term prosperity, it's a scorched earth tactic in a losing fight. Don't get confused and forget it. Don't forget what MotherFucker Global proved, either - no matter what your contracts say, if it comes to you or AIG, you'll get paid last.
Aren't you taking advantage of people by buying up all that cheap silver?
Aren't you taking advantage of people by buying up all that cheap silver?
fatsean: Aren't you taking advantage of people by buying up all that cheap silver?
But what's my strategy? I have one, you know.
But what's my strategy? I have one, you know.
czarangelus: I can't benefit from it because I have a different idea of what it means to benefit. Guess what? Bubonic plague didn't give a shit about how rich you were.
which of course doesn't mean shit in 2012, i can BUY healthcare options that others cannot.. can you buy things with the silver you don't own?
I had LASIK last year - love it!
which of course doesn't mean shit in 2012, i can BUY healthcare options that others cannot.. can you buy things with the silver you don't own?
I had LASIK last year - love it!
abt12monk: Mitt Romney isn't reasonable.
American presidential candidate have to say shit like this to get the nomination. They have to get the registered dingbats out to vote for them.
Once they get the nomination they have to get the moderates to vote for them so the backtrack as fast as they can.
At least I hope so. If they are sincere then heaven help you.
American presidential candidate have to say shit like this to get the nomination. They have to get the registered dingbats out to vote for them.
Once they get the nomination they have to get the moderates to vote for them so the backtrack as fast as they can.
At least I hope so. If they are sincere then heaven help you.
lard_baron: American presidential candidate have to say shit like this to get the nomination. They have to get the registered dingbats out to vote for them.
Once they get the nomination they have to get the moderates to vote for them so the backtrack as fast as they can.
At least I hope so. If they are sincere then heaven help you.
which was my original question about Romney, is he lying NOW to get the nomination, or is he lying THEN to win the election?
Once they get the nomination they have to get the moderates to vote for them so the backtrack as fast as they can.
At least I hope so. If they are sincere then heaven help you.
which was my original question about Romney, is he lying NOW to get the nomination, or is he lying THEN to win the election?
The Onion, what Libs actually believe.
czarangelus: But what's my strategy? I have one, you know.
You're taking advantage of the same thing that baron is taking advantage of.
You're taking advantage of the same thing that baron is taking advantage of.
fatsean: You're taking advantage of the same thing that baron is taking advantage of.
what? i'm not taking advantage of an artificially inflated commodity based on nothing but perceived value
what? i'm not taking advantage of an artificially inflated commodity based on nothing but perceived value
brazil: The Onion, what Libs actually believe.
The Onion is one of the few news outlets America can be proud of.
THE ONION January 17, 2001 | ISSUE 43•01 ISSUE 37•01
Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'
WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."
Enlarge ImagePresident-elect Bush vows that "together, we can put the triumphs of the recent past behind us."
"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."
Bush swore to do "everything in [his] power" to undo the damage wrought by Clinton's two terms in office, including selling off the national parks to developers, going into massive debt to develop expensive and impractical weapons technologies, and passing sweeping budget cuts that drive the mentally ill out of hospitals and onto the street.
During the 40-minute speech, Bush also promised to bring an end to the severe war drought that plagued the nation under Clinton, assuring citizens that the U.S. will engage in at least one Gulf War-level armed conflict in the next four years.
"You better believe we're going to mix it up with somebody at some point during my administration," said Bush, who plans a 250 percent boost in military spending. "Unlike my predecessor, I am fully committed to putting soldiers in battle situations. Otherwise, what is the point of even having a military?"
On the economic side, Bush vowed to bring back economic stagnation by implementing substantial tax cuts, which would lead to a recession, which would necessitate a tax hike, which would lead to a drop in consumer spending, which would lead to layoffs, which would deepen the recession even further.
Wall Street responded strongly to the Bush speech, with the Dow Jones industrial fluctuating wildly before closing at an 18-month low. The NASDAQ composite index, rattled by a gloomy outlook for tech stocks in 2001, also fell sharply, losing 4.4 percent of its total value between 3 p.m. and the closing bell.
Asked for comment about the cooling technology sector, Bush said: "That's hardly my area of expertise."
Turning to the subject of the environment, Bush said he will do whatever it takes to undo the tremendous damage not done by the Clinton Administration to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He assured citizens that he will follow through on his campaign promise to open the 1.5 million acre refuge's coastal plain to oil drilling. As a sign of his commitment to bringing about a change in the environment, he pointed to his choice of Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior. Norton, Bush noted, has "extensive experience" fighting environmental causes, working as a lobbyist for lead-paint manufacturers and as an attorney for loggers and miners, in addition to suing the EPA to overturn clean-air standards.
Bush had equally high praise for Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft, whom he praised as "a tireless champion in the battle to protect a woman's right to give birth."
"Soon, with John Ashcroft's help, we will move out of the Dark Ages and into a more enlightened time when a woman will be free to think long and hard before trying to fight her way past throngs of protesters blocking her entrance to an abortion clinic," Bush said. "We as a nation can look forward to lots and lots of babies."
Continued Bush: "John Ashcroft will be invaluable in healing the terrible wedge President Clinton drove between church and state."
The speech was met with overwhelming approval from Republican leaders.
"Finally, the horrific misrule of the Democrats has been brought to a close," House Majority Leader Dennis Hastert (R-IL) told reporters. "Under Bush, we can all look forward to military aggression, deregulation of dangerous, greedy industries, and the defunding of vital domestic social-service programs upon which millions depend. Mercifully, we can now say goodbye to the awful nightmare that was Clinton's America."
The Onion is one of the few news outlets America can be proud of.
THE ONION January 17, 2001 | ISSUE 43•01 ISSUE 37•01
Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'
WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."
Enlarge ImagePresident-elect Bush vows that "together, we can put the triumphs of the recent past behind us."
"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."
Bush swore to do "everything in [his] power" to undo the damage wrought by Clinton's two terms in office, including selling off the national parks to developers, going into massive debt to develop expensive and impractical weapons technologies, and passing sweeping budget cuts that drive the mentally ill out of hospitals and onto the street.
During the 40-minute speech, Bush also promised to bring an end to the severe war drought that plagued the nation under Clinton, assuring citizens that the U.S. will engage in at least one Gulf War-level armed conflict in the next four years.
"You better believe we're going to mix it up with somebody at some point during my administration," said Bush, who plans a 250 percent boost in military spending. "Unlike my predecessor, I am fully committed to putting soldiers in battle situations. Otherwise, what is the point of even having a military?"
On the economic side, Bush vowed to bring back economic stagnation by implementing substantial tax cuts, which would lead to a recession, which would necessitate a tax hike, which would lead to a drop in consumer spending, which would lead to layoffs, which would deepen the recession even further.
Wall Street responded strongly to the Bush speech, with the Dow Jones industrial fluctuating wildly before closing at an 18-month low. The NASDAQ composite index, rattled by a gloomy outlook for tech stocks in 2001, also fell sharply, losing 4.4 percent of its total value between 3 p.m. and the closing bell.
Asked for comment about the cooling technology sector, Bush said: "That's hardly my area of expertise."
Turning to the subject of the environment, Bush said he will do whatever it takes to undo the tremendous damage not done by the Clinton Administration to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He assured citizens that he will follow through on his campaign promise to open the 1.5 million acre refuge's coastal plain to oil drilling. As a sign of his commitment to bringing about a change in the environment, he pointed to his choice of Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior. Norton, Bush noted, has "extensive experience" fighting environmental causes, working as a lobbyist for lead-paint manufacturers and as an attorney for loggers and miners, in addition to suing the EPA to overturn clean-air standards.
Bush had equally high praise for Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft, whom he praised as "a tireless champion in the battle to protect a woman's right to give birth."
"Soon, with John Ashcroft's help, we will move out of the Dark Ages and into a more enlightened time when a woman will be free to think long and hard before trying to fight her way past throngs of protesters blocking her entrance to an abortion clinic," Bush said. "We as a nation can look forward to lots and lots of babies."
Continued Bush: "John Ashcroft will be invaluable in healing the terrible wedge President Clinton drove between church and state."
The speech was met with overwhelming approval from Republican leaders.
"Finally, the horrific misrule of the Democrats has been brought to a close," House Majority Leader Dennis Hastert (R-IL) told reporters. "Under Bush, we can all look forward to military aggression, deregulation of dangerous, greedy industries, and the defunding of vital domestic social-service programs upon which millions depend. Mercifully, we can now say goodbye to the awful nightmare that was Clinton's America."
holy shit, i forgot about that one..
the crystal ball they use has about a 90% accuracy rate!
Selling parks to developers - see ANWR
impractical weapons - see MOAB
wow
the crystal ball they use has about a 90% accuracy rate!
Selling parks to developers - see ANWR
impractical weapons - see MOAB
wow
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