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    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:13:48.0 login to vote score 4
    To be fair he was black.

    Also, why this asshole isnt in jail for manslaughter at the very least is beyond me.
    fatsean 3838 2012-03-09 14:15:46.0 login to vote score 0
    Kid's dad lives in the gated community. George Zimmerman better watch his back!
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:18:40.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: To be fair he was black.

    Also, why this asshole isnt in jail for manslaughter at the very least is beyond me.


    If he did in fact shoot him wrongly, not in self defense, he should be in jail.

    You are posting as if you know more than the police. Also, in cases like this, people aren't charge immediately when it is a question of self defense.

    So again, if this wasn't self defense, it's murder, otherwise wait for the invertigation.

    Also saying this was racially motivated is also you jumping the gun, since there is nothing in the article to support your position.
    quinblake 1476 2012-03-09 14:20:40.0 login to vote score 5
    Was he throwing snowballs?

    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:21:23.0 login to vote score 5
    flashlv:
    You are posting as if you know more than the police.


    Not that difficult to do actually.


    On a serious note, this guy shot an unarmed child in the street. He called the police and THEY told him to keep his dumbass away and they would handle it. Instead he literally went off half cocked and murdered some poor kid out for a walk.
    iadtatami 682 2012-03-09 14:22:30.0 login to vote score 0
    I hope the murderer gets dox'd and harassed for the rest of his miserable life.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:23:06.0 login to vote score 1
    More information:

    Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford Police Department on Thursday evening said the account given by Martin’s family and attorney is correct, that Zimmerman saw the young man walking home from the store. He said that Zimmerman did indeed call 911 and report a suspicious person, and that he was told not to follow him.

    “For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”

    Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.

    “I believe that Mr. Zimmerman was trying to, by his account, find an address to give the officers and also trying to keep Trayvon in eyesight.”

    Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”

    That's when a physical confrontation ensued, Lee said. And moments later, Martin was shot.

    Lee said that Zimmerman has a legal permit to carry the weapon used in the shooting, and that he told police that he shot Martin in self-defense.

    “He felt the need to defend himself,” Lee said. “ I don’t think it was his intent to go and shoot somebody” that night.

    The chief said the police have met with Zimmerman on two to three separate occasions, and that their investigation should be wrapped up this week. He said all of the evidence in the case will be delivered to the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office soon after.

    “We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.

    “It is certainly and absolutely a tragedy, especially for the Martin Family,” Lee said. "No one expects their teenage son to go the store and never come back.”



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/family-of-trayvon-martin-_n_1332756.html
    whitebread 3463 2012-03-09 14:23:16.0 login to vote score 4
    quinblake: Was he throwing snowballs?

    Only a white skank would care.

    /couldn't resist
    //so sorry
    ///muffled giggle
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:24:33.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: Not that difficult to do actually.


    On a serious note, this guy shot an unarmed child in the street. He called the police and THEY told him to keep his dumbass away and they would handle it. Instead he literally went off half cocked and murdered some poor kid out for a walk.


    Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.

    The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:25:15.0 login to vote score 4
    flashlv: more information

    FTFA: “For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”

    Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.

    And thats why this is manslaughter at best. This asshole isnt a cop and had ZERO business harassing someone out walking, let alone shooting him to death.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:25:38.0 login to vote score 1
    Very important for people think this guy is getting away with anything and why he is not in jail:

    “We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.



    quinblake 1476 2012-03-09 14:25:58.0 login to vote score 1
    whitebread: Only a white skank would care.

    /couldn't resist
    //so sorry
    ///muffled giggle


    stupid white skank.

    /snowballer was native/aboriginal/first nations/indian or whatever you want to use as a term.
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:26:00.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.

    The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/


    So this stupid old man started a fight with some kid and shot him? Thats murder.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:26:55.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: FTFA: “For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”

    Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.

    And thats why this is manslaughter at best. This asshole isnt a cop and had ZERO business harassing someone out walking, let alone shooting him to death.


    Following someone is not a reasom to get charged with man slaughter. According to the link I found and posted, he didn't confront the kid.


    iadtatami 682 2012-03-09 14:26:55.0 login to vote score 6
    He probably tried to physically detain the kid, and when the kid tried to get the fucker's hands off of him - as I would, if someone gave me shit about being in my own fucking neighborhood - the fucker shot him.

    I bet he'd been waiting his whole fucking life for an excuse to shoot someone, and when one finally appeared - flimsy as it was - he jumped eagerly upon it.
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:27:13.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: Very important for people think this guy is getting away with anything and why he is not in jail:

    “We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.


    And do really think if a 15 year old black kid shot some old white guy they wouldnt have arrested him on the spot?
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:27:13.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: So this stupid old man started a fight with some kid and shot him? Thats murder.

    The "old man' was 26 years old.
    whitebread 3463 2012-03-09 14:27:36.0 login to vote score 1
    quinblake: stupid white skank.

    /snowballer was native/aboriginal/first nations/indian or whatever you want to use as a term.


    Bigfoot. (Dammit, did it again)

    I'm sorry, the stupid must not have registered at all. It's not really a word I associate with you.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:28:15.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: And do really think if a 15 year old black kid shot some old white guy they wouldnt have arrested him on the spot?

    Old white guy? Do you consider 26 years old as "an old guy"?
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:28:47.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Following someone is not a reasom to get charged with man slaughter. According to the link I found and posted, he didn't confront the kid.

    So this kid was just walking home and decided to start a fight with the local vigilante(who was following him and calling the police, and armed)? Really, that seems plausible to you?
    quinblake 1476 2012-03-09 14:28:49.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Old white guy? Do you consider 26 years old as "an old guy"?

    Well, he's older than the kid.
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:29:19.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Old white guy? Do you consider 26 years old as "an old guy"?

    Thought it said 46. Still.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:29:56.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: So this kid was just walking home and decided to start a fight with the local vigilante(who was following him and calling the police, and armed)? Really, that seems plausible to you?

    According to a few links, that's not what happened. :/

    It seems plausible that there was a scuffle and one person ended up dead. That's all we have.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:30:12.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: Well, he's older than the kid.

    And? That's not what "old guy" means.
    intentionally left blank 2011 2012-03-09 14:30:36.0 login to vote score 3
    Living while black?
    Walking while black?

    I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:30:57.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: Thought it said 46. Still.

    The guy was a tool, and this was tragic. Why do you assume this guy was out for blood?
    polydactylkatze 641 2012-03-09 14:31:09.0 login to vote score 5
    If a black adult shot a white kid in a gated community, the police would have a plunger handle halfway up his ass by now.
    someone who may or may not be Wondering 2012-03-09 14:31:23.0 login to vote score 0
    I want to see what FlashLV has to say.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:31:35.0 login to vote score 0
    intentionally left blank: Living while black?
    Walking while black?

    I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.


    Some of those Neighborhood watch people want to be heroes. :/
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:31:39.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: According to a few links, that's not what happened. :/

    It seems plausible that there was a scuffle and one person ended up dead. That's all we have.


    And WHY would this kid start a fight?

    We already know the vigilante was chasing after him, thats an instigation of a non-situation to a confrontation. Then he fucking shot him.
    intentionally left blank 2011 2012-03-09 14:32:22.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.

    The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/



    quinblake 1476 2012-03-09 14:32:28.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: And? That's not what "old guy" means.

    Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?
    whitebread 3463 2012-03-09 14:32:58.0 login to vote score 0
    intentionally left blank: Living while black?
    Walking while black?

    I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.


    It's the two same words in your comment.




    "Like" of course.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:33:28.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: And WHY would this kid start a fight?

    We already know the vigilante was chasing after him, thats an instigation of a non-situation to a confrontation. Then he fucking shot him.


    Chasing? Do you have proof of that? According to the article, the kid noticed he was being followed and possible escalated.

    That's all we know.
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:33:50.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: The guy was a tool, and this was tragic. Why do you assume this guy was out for blood?

    Because he went against the 911 operators instruction and ended up killing someone.

    You dont chase down someone you are so scared of you had to call 911.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:34:02.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?

    And WTF is your point? I never said that wasn't true.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:34:25.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: Because he went against the 911 operators instruction and ended up killing someone.

    You dont chase down someone you are so scared of you had to call 911.


    Chase? Where are you getting your inforemation?
    brazil 316 2012-03-09 14:34:33.0 login to vote score 0
    quinblake: Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?

    Are you throwing snowballs?
    whitebread 3463 2012-03-09 14:35:02.0 login to vote score 1
    polydactylkatze: If a black adult shot a white kid in a gated community, the police would have a plunger handle halfway up his ass by now.

    What makes you think black adults are allowed in gated communities?

    /suddenly wants coords and Gearth data on chez Condi Rice
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 14:37:54.0 login to vote score 5
    hmm.. he says he was "trying to keep him in eyesight" yet he was close enough for a verbal confrontation??

    someone's story has holes

    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:38:00.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: Chase? Where are you getting your inforemation?

    Well he obviously followed him fast enough to catch him and then start a confrontation and kill him.

    Following fast enough to catch up with some is close enough to chasing them. This kid just didnt run away and instead wanted to know why some creepy fucker was stalking him and got shot for it.
    blandly pompous 5389 2012-03-09 14:38:29.0 login to vote score 0
    Florida sounds like it's become a truly crazy place with their Shoot Anything You Like Stand Your Ground Law. I don't think I'd want to go there without having body armor.
    gradivus 3607 2012-03-09 14:39:22.0 login to vote score 0
    blandly pompous: Florida sounds like it's become a truly crazy place with their Shoot Anything You Like Stand Your Ground Law. I don't think I'd want to go there without having body armor.

    If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 14:39:24.0 login to vote score 2
    baron muchhumpin: hmm.. he says he was "trying to keep him in eyesight" yet he was close enough for a verbal confrontation??

    someone's story has holes


    He has really bad vision.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 14:39:47.0 login to vote score 2
    surfnazi: He has really bad vision.

    and a license to carry, awesome

    polydactylkatze 641 2012-03-09 14:40:33.0 login to vote score 0
    whitebread: What makes you think black adults are allowed in gated communities?

    /suddenly wants coords and Gearth data on chez Condi Rice


    I don't think they're allowed, but y'know, if one got in by mistake. I mean, I assume the cops would assume he wasn't supposed to be there.
    sloth 222 2012-03-09 14:41:24.0 login to vote score 4
    Trayvon Martin, Shot & Killed By His Own Neighborhood Watch

    Sometimes it is necessary to destroy the residents in order to save them.
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-09 14:42:58.0 login to vote score 0
    Neighborhood Watch Guys sounds like a Cop-A-Be and decided to fuck with the kid ... unfortunate for the kid.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 14:48:13.0 login to vote score 0
    i'll be right back, my annoying lovely neighbor is walking around "suspiciously"

    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:48:28.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: hmm.. he says he was "trying to keep him in eyesight" yet he was close enough for a verbal confrontation??

    someone's story has holes


    Do you think he was 3 feet behind him?
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 14:49:07.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Do you think he was 3 feet behind him?

    do you think the kid ran up to him from over 50 feet away?
    whitebread 3463 2012-03-09 14:49:15.0 login to vote score 1
    gradivus: If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.

    *idiot on*
    Race card!
    *idiot off*
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:49:58.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: Well he obviously followed him fast enough to catch him and then start a confrontation and kill him.

    Following fast enough to catch up with some is close enough to chasing them. This kid just didnt run away and instead wanted to know why some creepy fucker was stalking him and got shot for it.


    According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.

    Also you are being disingenuous.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:50:30.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.

    Fail.

    Why are you trolling?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 14:50:36.0 login to vote score 1
    Shooter had been studying criminal justice until he decided to make his own.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:51:29.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: do you think the kid ran up to him from over 50 feet away?

    Who knows? Why do you come off like you know what happened?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 14:51:36.0 login to vote score 1
    "When I asked the police why there's been no arrest, they told me they respected [Zimmerman's] background, that he studied criminal justice for four years and that he was squeaky clean."
    whitebread 3463 2012-03-09 14:52:04.0 login to vote score 1
    polydactylkatze: I don't think they're allowed, but y'know, if one got in by mistake. I mean, I assume the cops would assume he wasn't supposed to be there.

    Well, duh. Violent jazz-listening, white-woman-raping psychopaths have to be eliminated, donchaknow.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:52:05.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: "When I asked the police why there's been no arrest, they told me they respected [Zimmerman's] background, that he studied criminal justice for four years and that he was squeaky clean."

    And that doesn't mean he won't be arrested later.
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-09 14:52:31.0 login to vote score 4
    flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.

    Also you are being disingenuous.


    You mean he started the altercation after the dude that killed him was following him around the neighborhood, right?


    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 14:53:40.0 login to vote score 4
    flashlv: I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.


    actually flashie, you're the one with the myopic view point

    The guy had a concealed firearm, he knew this. With this comes responsibility. If you think a situation is getting out of control you are supposed to disengage (unless in your own home)

    He purposefully put himself into this spot knowing damn well he could just shoot the kid for any reason he wanted to and just say "he came at me"


    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 14:54:11.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Who knows? Why do you come off like you know what happened?

    i pointed out inconsistencies in his story

    you're the only one pretending to 'know it all'

    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 14:54:25.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: And that doesn't mean he won't be arrested later.

    Well, it's a lie. Why would they stop lying?
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:56:22.0 login to vote score 0
    little hands of concrete: You mean he started the altercation after the dude that killed him was following him around the neighborhood, right?

    Yes. Following someone is not starting an altercation IMO.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:58:43.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: actually flashie, you're the one with the myopic view point

    The guy had a concealed firearm, he knew this. With this comes responsibility. If you think a situation is getting out of control you are supposed to disengage (unless in your own home)

    He purposefully put himself into this spot knowing damn well he could just shoot the kid for any reason he wanted to and just say "he came at me"


    How is it me? You and others are assuming what happened and assuming the shooting was not justified.

    carrying a concealed weapon is not illlegal if you have a license to carry it.

    Do you know how the gun was brought into play? Did the kid pull the gun before of after the fight?

    Do you know that he didn't try to get away?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 14:59:30.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Yes. Following someone is not starting an altercation IMO.

    What about pointing a gun at someone who has no weapons at all?
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 14:59:31.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: i pointed out inconsistencies in his story

    you're the only one pretending to 'know it all'


    WHAT?

    Where have I assumed anything about the case? You and gradvius are the only ones providing play by play as if you were there.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:00:12.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: Well, it's a lie. Why would they stop lying?

    but the charges were dropped


    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:00:41.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: but the charges were dropped

    So? Do you know what really happened? No you don't. Stop making stuff up.
    spongegirl circleskirt 382 2012-03-09 15:04:38.0 login to vote score 1
    Copsucker!
    Batonpegger!
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:07:16.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: So? Do you know what really happened? No you don't. Stop making stuff up.

    Who made anything up? I copied that from your link :/
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:13:52.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Who made anything up? I copied that from your link :/


    flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.

    You.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:22:00.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: You.

    How? I linked something from the article.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:24:15.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: How? I linked something from the article.

    You made an unsupported statement.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:26:38.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: You made an unsupported statement.

    Where?
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 15:27:33.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: How is it me? You and others are assuming what happened and assuming the shooting was not justified.

    carrying a concealed weapon is not illlegal if you have a license to carry it.


    flash, try to keep up

    I pointed out, using the guys own words, he was trying to keep the kid in 'eyesight' - what does that mean to you? 10 feet? 25 feet?

    eyesight to me would be 50+ feet away, it wasn't a crowed area, there were no witnesses

    i didn't say carrying concealed is illegal, i said "there is responsibility that comes with it' - i have a class-A carry concealed license, i've taken the classes, i know what it entails
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:28:28.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Where?

    flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 15:29:31.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.

    that's the cool thing about no witnesses.. make up any story you want

    blandly pompous 5389 2012-03-09 15:30:00.0 login to vote score 3
    It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:31:57.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: flash, try to keep up

    I pointed out, using the guys own words, he was trying to keep the kid in 'eyesight' - what does that mean to you? 10 feet? 25 feet?

    eyesight to me would be 50+ feet away, it wasn't a crowed area, there were no witnesses

    i didn't say carrying concealed is illegal, i said "there is responsibility that comes with it' - i have a class-A carry concealed license, i've taken the classes, i know what it entails


    It was an apartment complex, he was in between the houses, something like that could be about 25 to 50 feet.


    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 15:32:30.0 login to vote score 3
    blandly pompous: It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).

    exactly - as i was pointing out before flash "flashed" the thread was just that. If he was truly following from a distance, then during the time the kid "was coming at him" thus closing the gap, why didn't he then say "i have a gun" or show his weapon, or run away himself.

    far too many gaps in his story.

    scared enough to call 911, not scared enough to let the kid get with in "danger range"

    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:32:41.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: that's the cool thing about no witnesses.. make up any story you want

    And the police would see right through it in many cases.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 15:33:26.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: It was an apartment complex, he was in between the houses, something like that could be about 25 to 50 feet.

    so, as the kid turned around and was coming towards the guy with a loaded gun, why didn't he extract himself from the situation that he put himself into??


    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:35:32.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: so, as the kid turned around and was coming towards the guy with a loaded gun, why didn't he extract himself from the situation that he put himself into??

    Do you know he did not try to?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:35:46.0 login to vote score 2
    blandly pompous: It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).

    Can happen anywhere in the south as long as you have the right friends.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:36:36.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Do you know he did not try to?

    He shot and killed an unarmed child, instead of leaving, so yeah.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 15:36:54.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: Do you know he did not try to?

    if someone if 50 feet away i can keep that gap by backing up

    the kid is dead, so i'm going to assume he didn't

    and his story wasn't "i tried to run and the kid caught me"

    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:40:28.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: He shot and killed an unarmed child, instead of leaving, so yeah.

    Over simplification, way over simplified.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:41:17.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Over simplification, way over simplified.

    Factually correct, which is far more than I can say for you.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:43:29.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: Factually correct, which is far more than I can say for you.

    What have I posted that wasn't factual?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:44:04.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: What have I posted that wasn't factual?

    That thing that I've replied to you with twice already.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:44:26.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: That thing that I've replied to you with twice already.

    I copied and pasted from the link I provided.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:45:45.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I copied and pasted from the link I provided.

    And then said something of your own opinion.
    fatsean 3838 2012-03-09 15:46:34.0 login to vote score 0
    blandly pompous: It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).

    It is a savage place.
    fatsean 3838 2012-03-09 15:47:01.0 login to vote score 0
    I think I'd confront someone who appeared to be following me as well.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:48:28.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: And then said something of your own opinion.

    No I did not, it was copied and pasted.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:50:18.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: And then said something of your own opinion.

    Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”


    That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.

    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:50:47.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: No I did not, it was copied and pasted.

    Please link to the article from which you copy/pasted this line:

    flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:51:59.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”


    That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.


    So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 15:53:37.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood

    Following someone is not confronting someone, also the police said he was trying to get an address for the police.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:54:38.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Following someone is not confronting someone, also the police said he was trying to get an address for the police.

    I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 15:55:40.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.

    do you think he purposefully doesn't connect logical dots, or is there something more sinister at work here

    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 15:56:28.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: do you think he purposefully doesn't connect logical dots, or is there something more sinister at work here

    I was about to say I hope he's doing it on purpose, but that is sadder than if he can't help it.
    eddyatwork 998 2012-03-09 16:01:53.0 login to vote score 0
    All I will say is that the article said he had an Arizona iced tea and Skittles, but it didn't say he had a receipt for those items. I bet he thiefed them!
    iadtatami 682 2012-03-09 16:02:11.0 login to vote score 0
    I think he's just trying to hurt bN as much as it has hurt him.

    He's not alone in that regard. There are several other bNers who exhibit this attitude in their posting patterns.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-09 16:03:08.0 login to vote score 0
    eddyatwork: All I will say is that the article said he had an Arizona iced tea and Skittles, but it didn't say he had a receipt for those items. I bet he thiefed them!

    And the $22 must have been stolen too.
    eddyatwork 998 2012-03-09 16:04:19.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: And the $22 must have been stolen too.

    Where would a black boy get $22 is what I want to know!
    fatsean 3838 2012-03-09 16:11:49.0 login to vote score 2
    surfnazi: So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood

    Wonder what the the police will say about the shot. Was it from a distance? Did the two get into a scuffle and the older guy was losing so he shot the boy from close range. Should be interesting. But I bet you the Florida police aren't going to try too hard on this one.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 16:12:44.0 login to vote score 0
    eddyatwork: Where would a black boy get $22 is what I want to know!

    durrr.. he just sold some crack to some stupid white boy

    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 17:39:43.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.

    Quoting information from an article is wrong? I should not do it? really?
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-09 17:41:35.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: I was about to say I hope he's doing it on purpose, but that is sadder than if he can't help it.

    Doing What?

    WTF is the problem here? You are assuming things and I am quoting the articles I linked. < you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with it?
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-03-09 18:01:47.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Doing What?

    WTF is the problem here? You are assuming things and I am quoting the articles I linked. < you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with it?


    temper temper flashie

    pope sixtus ix 11309 2012-03-09 19:27:19.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: If he did in fact shoot him wrongly, not in self defense, he should be in jail.

    You are posting as if you know more than the police. Also, in cases like this, people aren't charge immediately when it is a question of self defense.

    So again, if this wasn't self defense, it's murder, otherwise wait for the invertigation.

    Also saying this was racially motivated is also you jumping the gun, since there is nothing in the article to support your position.


    Right. I'm sure George Zimmerman would have called 911 and than shot a Semitic kid wearing a Brandeis shirt, too.

    *rolls eyes*
    supergrover 373 2012-03-10 04:57:44.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”


    That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.


    No, the dude following close enough for, if true, the kid to worry about who was following. I'm sure the kid was looking to scrap with iced tea and skittles in hands and pocket.

    Dude instigated the situation. He should not get off scot free.
    sloth 222 2012-03-10 05:12:21.0 login to vote score 0
    iadtatami: I think he's just trying to hurt bN as much as it has hurt him.

    The kid or the Neighborhood Watchman?
    burntman 1528 2012-03-10 05:16:41.0 login to vote score 0
    sloth: The kid or the Neighborhood Watchman?

    He's dead Jim.
    If you logged in, you could post here.