Trayvon Martin, Shot & Killed By His Own Neighborhood Watch
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To be fair he was black.
Also, why this asshole isnt in jail for manslaughter at the very least is beyond me.
Also, why this asshole isnt in jail for manslaughter at the very least is beyond me.
Kid's dad lives in the gated community. George Zimmerman better watch his back!
gradivus: To be fair he was black.
Also, why this asshole isnt in jail for manslaughter at the very least is beyond me.
If he did in fact shoot him wrongly, not in self defense, he should be in jail.
You are posting as if you know more than the police. Also, in cases like this, people aren't charge immediately when it is a question of self defense.
So again, if this wasn't self defense, it's murder, otherwise wait for the invertigation.
Also saying this was racially motivated is also you jumping the gun, since there is nothing in the article to support your position.
Also, why this asshole isnt in jail for manslaughter at the very least is beyond me.
If he did in fact shoot him wrongly, not in self defense, he should be in jail.
You are posting as if you know more than the police. Also, in cases like this, people aren't charge immediately when it is a question of self defense.
So again, if this wasn't self defense, it's murder, otherwise wait for the invertigation.
Also saying this was racially motivated is also you jumping the gun, since there is nothing in the article to support your position.
flashlv:
You are posting as if you know more than the police.
Not that difficult to do actually.
On a serious note, this guy shot an unarmed child in the street. He called the police and THEY told him to keep his dumbass away and they would handle it. Instead he literally went off half cocked and murdered some poor kid out for a walk.
You are posting as if you know more than the police.
Not that difficult to do actually.
On a serious note, this guy shot an unarmed child in the street. He called the police and THEY told him to keep his dumbass away and they would handle it. Instead he literally went off half cocked and murdered some poor kid out for a walk.
I hope the murderer gets dox'd and harassed for the rest of his miserable life.
More information:
Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford Police Department on Thursday evening said the account given by Martin’s family and attorney is correct, that Zimmerman saw the young man walking home from the store. He said that Zimmerman did indeed call 911 and report a suspicious person, and that he was told not to follow him.
“For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”
Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.
“I believe that Mr. Zimmerman was trying to, by his account, find an address to give the officers and also trying to keep Trayvon in eyesight.”
Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”
That's when a physical confrontation ensued, Lee said. And moments later, Martin was shot.
Lee said that Zimmerman has a legal permit to carry the weapon used in the shooting, and that he told police that he shot Martin in self-defense.
“He felt the need to defend himself,” Lee said. “ I don’t think it was his intent to go and shoot somebody” that night.
The chief said the police have met with Zimmerman on two to three separate occasions, and that their investigation should be wrapped up this week. He said all of the evidence in the case will be delivered to the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office soon after.
“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.
“It is certainly and absolutely a tragedy, especially for the Martin Family,” Lee said. "No one expects their teenage son to go the store and never come back.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/family-of-trayvon-martin-_n_1332756.html
Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford Police Department on Thursday evening said the account given by Martin’s family and attorney is correct, that Zimmerman saw the young man walking home from the store. He said that Zimmerman did indeed call 911 and report a suspicious person, and that he was told not to follow him.
“For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”
Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.
“I believe that Mr. Zimmerman was trying to, by his account, find an address to give the officers and also trying to keep Trayvon in eyesight.”
Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”
That's when a physical confrontation ensued, Lee said. And moments later, Martin was shot.
Lee said that Zimmerman has a legal permit to carry the weapon used in the shooting, and that he told police that he shot Martin in self-defense.
“He felt the need to defend himself,” Lee said. “ I don’t think it was his intent to go and shoot somebody” that night.
The chief said the police have met with Zimmerman on two to three separate occasions, and that their investigation should be wrapped up this week. He said all of the evidence in the case will be delivered to the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office soon after.
“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.
“It is certainly and absolutely a tragedy, especially for the Martin Family,” Lee said. "No one expects their teenage son to go the store and never come back.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/family-of-trayvon-martin-_n_1332756.html
quinblake: Was he throwing snowballs?
Only a white skank would care.
/couldn't resist
//so sorry
///muffled giggle
Only a white skank would care.
/couldn't resist
//so sorry
///muffled giggle
gradivus: Not that difficult to do actually.
On a serious note, this guy shot an unarmed child in the street. He called the police and THEY told him to keep his dumbass away and they would handle it. Instead he literally went off half cocked and murdered some poor kid out for a walk.
Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.
The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
On a serious note, this guy shot an unarmed child in the street. He called the police and THEY told him to keep his dumbass away and they would handle it. Instead he literally went off half cocked and murdered some poor kid out for a walk.
Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.
The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
flashlv: more information
FTFA: “For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”
Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.
And thats why this is manslaughter at best. This asshole isnt a cop and had ZERO business harassing someone out walking, let alone shooting him to death.
FTFA: “For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”
Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.
And thats why this is manslaughter at best. This asshole isnt a cop and had ZERO business harassing someone out walking, let alone shooting him to death.
Very important for people think this guy is getting away with anything and why he is not in jail:
“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.
“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.
whitebread: Only a white skank would care.
/couldn't resist
//so sorry
///muffled giggle
stupid white skank.
/snowballer was native/aboriginal/first nations/indian or whatever you want to use as a term.
/couldn't resist
//so sorry
///muffled giggle
stupid white skank.
/snowballer was native/aboriginal/first nations/indian or whatever you want to use as a term.
flashlv: Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.
The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
So this stupid old man started a fight with some kid and shot him? Thats murder.
The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
So this stupid old man started a fight with some kid and shot him? Thats murder.
gradivus: FTFA: “For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”
Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.
And thats why this is manslaughter at best. This asshole isnt a cop and had ZERO business harassing someone out walking, let alone shooting him to death.
Following someone is not a reasom to get charged with man slaughter. According to the link I found and posted, he didn't confront the kid.
Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.
And thats why this is manslaughter at best. This asshole isnt a cop and had ZERO business harassing someone out walking, let alone shooting him to death.
Following someone is not a reasom to get charged with man slaughter. According to the link I found and posted, he didn't confront the kid.
He probably tried to physically detain the kid, and when the kid tried to get the fucker's hands off of him - as I would, if someone gave me shit about being in my own fucking neighborhood - the fucker shot him.
I bet he'd been waiting his whole fucking life for an excuse to shoot someone, and when one finally appeared - flimsy as it was - he jumped eagerly upon it.
I bet he'd been waiting his whole fucking life for an excuse to shoot someone, and when one finally appeared - flimsy as it was - he jumped eagerly upon it.
flashlv: Very important for people think this guy is getting away with anything and why he is not in jail:
“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.
And do really think if a 15 year old black kid shot some old white guy they wouldnt have arrested him on the spot?
“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.
And do really think if a 15 year old black kid shot some old white guy they wouldnt have arrested him on the spot?
gradivus: So this stupid old man started a fight with some kid and shot him? Thats murder.
The "old man' was 26 years old.
The "old man' was 26 years old.
quinblake: stupid white skank.
/snowballer was native/aboriginal/first nations/indian or whatever you want to use as a term.
Bigfoot. (Dammit, did it again)
I'm sorry, the stupid must not have registered at all. It's not really a word I associate with you.
/snowballer was native/aboriginal/first nations/indian or whatever you want to use as a term.
Bigfoot. (Dammit, did it again)
I'm sorry, the stupid must not have registered at all. It's not really a word I associate with you.
gradivus: And do really think if a 15 year old black kid shot some old white guy they wouldnt have arrested him on the spot?
Old white guy? Do you consider 26 years old as "an old guy"?
Old white guy? Do you consider 26 years old as "an old guy"?
flashlv: Following someone is not a reasom to get charged with man slaughter. According to the link I found and posted, he didn't confront the kid.
So this kid was just walking home and decided to start a fight with the local vigilante(who was following him and calling the police, and armed)? Really, that seems plausible to you?
So this kid was just walking home and decided to start a fight with the local vigilante(who was following him and calling the police, and armed)? Really, that seems plausible to you?
flashlv: Old white guy? Do you consider 26 years old as "an old guy"?
Well, he's older than the kid.
Well, he's older than the kid.
gradivus: So this kid was just walking home and decided to start a fight with the local vigilante(who was following him and calling the police, and armed)? Really, that seems plausible to you?
According to a few links, that's not what happened. :/
It seems plausible that there was a scuffle and one person ended up dead. That's all we have.
According to a few links, that's not what happened. :/
It seems plausible that there was a scuffle and one person ended up dead. That's all we have.
Living while black?
Walking while black?
I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
Walking while black?
I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
gradivus: Thought it said 46. Still.
The guy was a tool, and this was tragic. Why do you assume this guy was out for blood?
The guy was a tool, and this was tragic. Why do you assume this guy was out for blood?
If a black adult shot a white kid in a gated community, the police would have a plunger handle halfway up his ass by now.
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I want to see what FlashLV has to say.
intentionally left blank: Living while black?
Walking while black?
I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
Some of those Neighborhood watch people want to be heroes. :/
Walking while black?
I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
Some of those Neighborhood watch people want to be heroes. :/
flashlv: According to a few links, that's not what happened. :/
It seems plausible that there was a scuffle and one person ended up dead. That's all we have.
And WHY would this kid start a fight?
We already know the vigilante was chasing after him, thats an instigation of a non-situation to a confrontation. Then he fucking shot him.
It seems plausible that there was a scuffle and one person ended up dead. That's all we have.
And WHY would this kid start a fight?
We already know the vigilante was chasing after him, thats an instigation of a non-situation to a confrontation. Then he fucking shot him.
flashlv: Why don't you do a little more research, I did. The guy said they fought and he defended himself.
The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
The police are still investigating, but yet again, you assume to know more than everyone else about what happened :/
flashlv: And? That's not what "old guy" means.
Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?
Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?
intentionally left blank: Living while black?
Walking while black?
I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
It's the two same words in your comment.
"Like" of course.
Walking while black?
I'm trying to figure out the suspicious behavior.
It's the two same words in your comment.
"Like" of course.
gradivus: And WHY would this kid start a fight?
We already know the vigilante was chasing after him, thats an instigation of a non-situation to a confrontation. Then he fucking shot him.
Chasing? Do you have proof of that? According to the article, the kid noticed he was being followed and possible escalated.
That's all we know.
We already know the vigilante was chasing after him, thats an instigation of a non-situation to a confrontation. Then he fucking shot him.
Chasing? Do you have proof of that? According to the article, the kid noticed he was being followed and possible escalated.
That's all we know.
flashlv: The guy was a tool, and this was tragic. Why do you assume this guy was out for blood?
Because he went against the 911 operators instruction and ended up killing someone.
You dont chase down someone you are so scared of you had to call 911.
Because he went against the 911 operators instruction and ended up killing someone.
You dont chase down someone you are so scared of you had to call 911.
quinblake: Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?
And WTF is your point? I never said that wasn't true.
And WTF is your point? I never said that wasn't true.
gradivus: Because he went against the 911 operators instruction and ended up killing someone.
You dont chase down someone you are so scared of you had to call 911.
Chase? Where are you getting your inforemation?
You dont chase down someone you are so scared of you had to call 911.
Chase? Where are you getting your inforemation?
quinblake: Just pointing out that he's older than the kid. Settle down, you're not going to shoot me or anything, are you?
Are you throwing snowballs?
Are you throwing snowballs?
polydactylkatze: If a black adult shot a white kid in a gated community, the police would have a plunger handle halfway up his ass by now.
What makes you think black adults are allowed in gated communities?
/suddenly wants coords and Gearth data on chez Condi Rice
What makes you think black adults are allowed in gated communities?
/suddenly wants coords and Gearth data on chez Condi Rice
hmm.. he says he was "trying to keep him in eyesight" yet he was close enough for a verbal confrontation??
someone's story has holes
someone's story has holes
flashlv: Chase? Where are you getting your inforemation?
Well he obviously followed him fast enough to catch him and then start a confrontation and kill him.
Following fast enough to catch up with some is close enough to chasing them. This kid just didnt run away and instead wanted to know why some creepy fucker was stalking him and got shot for it.
Well he obviously followed him fast enough to catch him and then start a confrontation and kill him.
Following fast enough to catch up with some is close enough to chasing them. This kid just didnt run away and instead wanted to know why some creepy fucker was stalking him and got shot for it.
Florida sounds like it's become a truly crazy place with their Shoot Anything You Like Stand Your Ground Law. I don't think I'd want to go there without having body armor.
blandly pompous: Florida sounds like it's become a truly crazy place with their Shoot Anything You Like Stand Your Ground Law. I don't think I'd want to go there without having body armor.
If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.
If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.
baron muchhumpin: hmm.. he says he was "trying to keep him in eyesight" yet he was close enough for a verbal confrontation??
someone's story has holes
He has really bad vision.
someone's story has holes
He has really bad vision.
whitebread: What makes you think black adults are allowed in gated communities?
/suddenly wants coords and Gearth data on chez Condi Rice
I don't think they're allowed, but y'know, if one got in by mistake. I mean, I assume the cops would assume he wasn't supposed to be there.
/suddenly wants coords and Gearth data on chez Condi Rice
I don't think they're allowed, but y'know, if one got in by mistake. I mean, I assume the cops would assume he wasn't supposed to be there.
Trayvon Martin, Shot & Killed By His Own Neighborhood Watch
Sometimes it is necessary to destroy the residents in order to save them.
Sometimes it is necessary to destroy the residents in order to save them.
Neighborhood Watch Guys sounds like a Cop-A-Be and decided to fuck with the kid ... unfortunate for the kid.
baron muchhumpin: hmm.. he says he was "trying to keep him in eyesight" yet he was close enough for a verbal confrontation??
someone's story has holes
Do you think he was 3 feet behind him?
someone's story has holes
Do you think he was 3 feet behind him?
flashlv: Do you think he was 3 feet behind him?
do you think the kid ran up to him from over 50 feet away?
do you think the kid ran up to him from over 50 feet away?
gradivus: If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.
*idiot on*
Race card!
*idiot off*
*idiot on*
Race card!
*idiot off*
gradivus: Well he obviously followed him fast enough to catch him and then start a confrontation and kill him.
Following fast enough to catch up with some is close enough to chasing them. This kid just didnt run away and instead wanted to know why some creepy fucker was stalking him and got shot for it.
According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.
Also you are being disingenuous.
Following fast enough to catch up with some is close enough to chasing them. This kid just didnt run away and instead wanted to know why some creepy fucker was stalking him and got shot for it.
According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.
Also you are being disingenuous.
gradivus: If this was anything but a white guy shooting a black kid this fucker would be in jail. Racism is alive and well in the south.
Fail.
Why are you trolling?
Fail.
Why are you trolling?
Shooter had been studying criminal justice until he decided to make his own.
baron muchhumpin: do you think the kid ran up to him from over 50 feet away?
Who knows? Why do you come off like you know what happened?
Who knows? Why do you come off like you know what happened?
"When I asked the police why there's been no arrest, they told me they respected [Zimmerman's] background, that he studied criminal justice for four years and that he was squeaky clean."
polydactylkatze: I don't think they're allowed, but y'know, if one got in by mistake. I mean, I assume the cops would assume he wasn't supposed to be there.
Well, duh. Violent jazz-listening, white-woman-raping psychopaths have to be eliminated, donchaknow.
Well, duh. Violent jazz-listening, white-woman-raping psychopaths have to be eliminated, donchaknow.
surfnazi: "When I asked the police why there's been no arrest, they told me they respected [Zimmerman's] background, that he studied criminal justice for four years and that he was squeaky clean."
And that doesn't mean he won't be arrested later.
And that doesn't mean he won't be arrested later.
flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.
Also you are being disingenuous.
You mean he started the altercation after the dude that killed him was following him around the neighborhood, right?
Also you are being disingenuous.
You mean he started the altercation after the dude that killed him was following him around the neighborhood, right?
flashlv: I linked, the kid started the confrontation. That doesn't justify anything, but not sure why you guys can never look at these things with open minds.
actually flashie, you're the one with the myopic view point
The guy had a concealed firearm, he knew this. With this comes responsibility. If you think a situation is getting out of control you are supposed to disengage (unless in your own home)
He purposefully put himself into this spot knowing damn well he could just shoot the kid for any reason he wanted to and just say "he came at me"
actually flashie, you're the one with the myopic view point
The guy had a concealed firearm, he knew this. With this comes responsibility. If you think a situation is getting out of control you are supposed to disengage (unless in your own home)
He purposefully put himself into this spot knowing damn well he could just shoot the kid for any reason he wanted to and just say "he came at me"
flashlv: Who knows? Why do you come off like you know what happened?
i pointed out inconsistencies in his story
you're the only one pretending to 'know it all'
i pointed out inconsistencies in his story
you're the only one pretending to 'know it all'
flashlv: And that doesn't mean he won't be arrested later.
Well, it's a lie. Why would they stop lying?
Well, it's a lie. Why would they stop lying?
little hands of concrete: You mean he started the altercation after the dude that killed him was following him around the neighborhood, right?
Yes. Following someone is not starting an altercation IMO.
Yes. Following someone is not starting an altercation IMO.
baron muchhumpin: actually flashie, you're the one with the myopic view point
The guy had a concealed firearm, he knew this. With this comes responsibility. If you think a situation is getting out of control you are supposed to disengage (unless in your own home)
He purposefully put himself into this spot knowing damn well he could just shoot the kid for any reason he wanted to and just say "he came at me"
How is it me? You and others are assuming what happened and assuming the shooting was not justified.
carrying a concealed weapon is not illlegal if you have a license to carry it.
Do you know how the gun was brought into play? Did the kid pull the gun before of after the fight?
Do you know that he didn't try to get away?
The guy had a concealed firearm, he knew this. With this comes responsibility. If you think a situation is getting out of control you are supposed to disengage (unless in your own home)
He purposefully put himself into this spot knowing damn well he could just shoot the kid for any reason he wanted to and just say "he came at me"
How is it me? You and others are assuming what happened and assuming the shooting was not justified.
carrying a concealed weapon is not illlegal if you have a license to carry it.
Do you know how the gun was brought into play? Did the kid pull the gun before of after the fight?
Do you know that he didn't try to get away?
flashlv: Yes. Following someone is not starting an altercation IMO.
What about pointing a gun at someone who has no weapons at all?
What about pointing a gun at someone who has no weapons at all?
baron muchhumpin: i pointed out inconsistencies in his story
you're the only one pretending to 'know it all'
WHAT?
Where have I assumed anything about the case? You and gradvius are the only ones providing play by play as if you were there.
you're the only one pretending to 'know it all'
WHAT?
Where have I assumed anything about the case? You and gradvius are the only ones providing play by play as if you were there.
flashlv: but the charges were dropped
So? Do you know what really happened? No you don't. Stop making stuff up.
So? Do you know what really happened? No you don't. Stop making stuff up.
surfnazi: So? Do you know what really happened? No you don't. Stop making stuff up.
Who made anything up? I copied that from your link :/
Who made anything up? I copied that from your link :/
flashlv: Who made anything up? I copied that from your link :/
flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
You.
flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
You.
flashlv: How is it me? You and others are assuming what happened and assuming the shooting was not justified.
carrying a concealed weapon is not illlegal if you have a license to carry it.
flash, try to keep up
I pointed out, using the guys own words, he was trying to keep the kid in 'eyesight' - what does that mean to you? 10 feet? 25 feet?
eyesight to me would be 50+ feet away, it wasn't a crowed area, there were no witnesses
i didn't say carrying concealed is illegal, i said "there is responsibility that comes with it' - i have a class-A carry concealed license, i've taken the classes, i know what it entails
carrying a concealed weapon is not illlegal if you have a license to carry it.
flash, try to keep up
I pointed out, using the guys own words, he was trying to keep the kid in 'eyesight' - what does that mean to you? 10 feet? 25 feet?
eyesight to me would be 50+ feet away, it wasn't a crowed area, there were no witnesses
i didn't say carrying concealed is illegal, i said "there is responsibility that comes with it' - i have a class-A carry concealed license, i've taken the classes, i know what it entails
surfnazi: flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
that's the cool thing about no witnesses.. make up any story you want
that's the cool thing about no witnesses.. make up any story you want
It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).
baron muchhumpin: flash, try to keep up
I pointed out, using the guys own words, he was trying to keep the kid in 'eyesight' - what does that mean to you? 10 feet? 25 feet?
eyesight to me would be 50+ feet away, it wasn't a crowed area, there were no witnesses
i didn't say carrying concealed is illegal, i said "there is responsibility that comes with it' - i have a class-A carry concealed license, i've taken the classes, i know what it entails
It was an apartment complex, he was in between the houses, something like that could be about 25 to 50 feet.
I pointed out, using the guys own words, he was trying to keep the kid in 'eyesight' - what does that mean to you? 10 feet? 25 feet?
eyesight to me would be 50+ feet away, it wasn't a crowed area, there were no witnesses
i didn't say carrying concealed is illegal, i said "there is responsibility that comes with it' - i have a class-A carry concealed license, i've taken the classes, i know what it entails
It was an apartment complex, he was in between the houses, something like that could be about 25 to 50 feet.
blandly pompous: It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).
exactly - as i was pointing out before flash "flashed" the thread was just that. If he was truly following from a distance, then during the time the kid "was coming at him" thus closing the gap, why didn't he then say "i have a gun" or show his weapon, or run away himself.
far too many gaps in his story.
scared enough to call 911, not scared enough to let the kid get with in "danger range"
exactly - as i was pointing out before flash "flashed" the thread was just that. If he was truly following from a distance, then during the time the kid "was coming at him" thus closing the gap, why didn't he then say "i have a gun" or show his weapon, or run away himself.
far too many gaps in his story.
scared enough to call 911, not scared enough to let the kid get with in "danger range"
baron muchhumpin: that's the cool thing about no witnesses.. make up any story you want
And the police would see right through it in many cases.
And the police would see right through it in many cases.
flashlv: It was an apartment complex, he was in between the houses, something like that could be about 25 to 50 feet.
so, as the kid turned around and was coming towards the guy with a loaded gun, why didn't he extract himself from the situation that he put himself into??
so, as the kid turned around and was coming towards the guy with a loaded gun, why didn't he extract himself from the situation that he put himself into??
baron muchhumpin: so, as the kid turned around and was coming towards the guy with a loaded gun, why didn't he extract himself from the situation that he put himself into??
Do you know he did not try to?
Do you know he did not try to?
blandly pompous: It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).
Can happen anywhere in the south as long as you have the right friends.
Can happen anywhere in the south as long as you have the right friends.
flashlv: Do you know he did not try to?
He shot and killed an unarmed child, instead of leaving, so yeah.
He shot and killed an unarmed child, instead of leaving, so yeah.
flashlv: Do you know he did not try to?
if someone if 50 feet away i can keep that gap by backing up
the kid is dead, so i'm going to assume he didn't
and his story wasn't "i tried to run and the kid caught me"
if someone if 50 feet away i can keep that gap by backing up
the kid is dead, so i'm going to assume he didn't
and his story wasn't "i tried to run and the kid caught me"
surfnazi: He shot and killed an unarmed child, instead of leaving, so yeah.
Over simplification, way over simplified.
Over simplification, way over simplified.
flashlv: Over simplification, way over simplified.
Factually correct, which is far more than I can say for you.
Factually correct, which is far more than I can say for you.
surfnazi: Factually correct, which is far more than I can say for you.
What have I posted that wasn't factual?
What have I posted that wasn't factual?
flashlv: What have I posted that wasn't factual?
That thing that I've replied to you with twice already.
That thing that I've replied to you with twice already.
surfnazi: That thing that I've replied to you with twice already.
I copied and pasted from the link I provided.
I copied and pasted from the link I provided.
blandly pompous: It's really bizarre that in Florida you can be the one to make a confrontation then shoot someone else who is unarmed, then claim self defense (and not be laughed at while they're arresting you).
It is a savage place.
It is a savage place.
I think I'd confront someone who appeared to be following me as well.
surfnazi: And then said something of your own opinion.
Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”
That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.
Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”
That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.
flashlv: No I did not, it was copied and pasted.
Please link to the article from which you copy/pasted this line:
flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
Please link to the article from which you copy/pasted this line:
flashlv: According to the article I linked, the kid started the confrontation.
flashlv: Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”
That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.
So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood
That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.
So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood
surfnazi: So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood
Following someone is not confronting someone, also the police said he was trying to get an address for the police.
Following someone is not confronting someone, also the police said he was trying to get an address for the police.
flashlv: Following someone is not confronting someone, also the police said he was trying to get an address for the police.
I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.
I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.
surfnazi: I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.
do you think he purposefully doesn't connect logical dots, or is there something more sinister at work here
do you think he purposefully doesn't connect logical dots, or is there something more sinister at work here
baron muchhumpin: do you think he purposefully doesn't connect logical dots, or is there something more sinister at work here
I was about to say I hope he's doing it on purpose, but that is sadder than if he can't help it.
I was about to say I hope he's doing it on purpose, but that is sadder than if he can't help it.
All I will say is that the article said he had an Arizona iced tea and Skittles, but it didn't say he had a receipt for those items. I bet he thiefed them!
I think he's just trying to hurt bN as much as it has hurt him.
He's not alone in that regard. There are several other bNers who exhibit this attitude in their posting patterns.
He's not alone in that regard. There are several other bNers who exhibit this attitude in their posting patterns.
eddyatwork: All I will say is that the article said he had an Arizona iced tea and Skittles, but it didn't say he had a receipt for those items. I bet he thiefed them!
And the $22 must have been stolen too.
And the $22 must have been stolen too.
surfnazi: And the $22 must have been stolen too.
Where would a black boy get $22 is what I want to know!
Where would a black boy get $22 is what I want to know!
surfnazi: So Zimmerman is A) a credible witness and B) not starting a confrontation himself by following someone through their own neighborhood
Wonder what the the police will say about the shot. Was it from a distance? Did the two get into a scuffle and the older guy was losing so he shot the boy from close range. Should be interesting. But I bet you the Florida police aren't going to try too hard on this one.
Wonder what the the police will say about the shot. Was it from a distance? Did the two get into a scuffle and the older guy was losing so he shot the boy from close range. Should be interesting. But I bet you the Florida police aren't going to try too hard on this one.
eddyatwork: Where would a black boy get $22 is what I want to know!
durrr.. he just sold some crack to some stupid white boy
durrr.. he just sold some crack to some stupid white boy
surfnazi: I know I was being really stupid for even replying to you, but I'm not about to rehash the same shit from up-thread.
Quoting information from an article is wrong? I should not do it? really?
Quoting information from an article is wrong? I should not do it? really?
surfnazi: I was about to say I hope he's doing it on purpose, but that is sadder than if he can't help it.
Doing What?
WTF is the problem here? You are assuming things and I am quoting the articles I linked. < you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with it?
Doing What?
WTF is the problem here? You are assuming things and I am quoting the articles I linked. < you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with it?
flashlv: Doing What?
WTF is the problem here? You are assuming things and I am quoting the articles I linked. < you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with it?
temper temper flashie
WTF is the problem here? You are assuming things and I am quoting the articles I linked. < you can go fuck yourself if you have a problem with it?
temper temper flashie
flashlv: If he did in fact shoot him wrongly, not in self defense, he should be in jail.
You are posting as if you know more than the police. Also, in cases like this, people aren't charge immediately when it is a question of self defense.
So again, if this wasn't self defense, it's murder, otherwise wait for the invertigation.
Also saying this was racially motivated is also you jumping the gun, since there is nothing in the article to support your position.
Right. I'm sure George Zimmerman would have called 911 and than shot a Semitic kid wearing a Brandeis shirt, too.
*rolls eyes*
You are posting as if you know more than the police. Also, in cases like this, people aren't charge immediately when it is a question of self defense.
So again, if this wasn't self defense, it's murder, otherwise wait for the invertigation.
Also saying this was racially motivated is also you jumping the gun, since there is nothing in the article to support your position.
Right. I'm sure George Zimmerman would have called 911 and than shot a Semitic kid wearing a Brandeis shirt, too.
*rolls eyes*
flashlv: Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”
That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.
No, the dude following close enough for, if true, the kid to worry about who was following. I'm sure the kid was looking to scrap with iced tea and skittles in hands and pocket.
Dude instigated the situation. He should not get off scot free.
That was what started the confrontation. According to the article.
No, the dude following close enough for, if true, the kid to worry about who was following. I'm sure the kid was looking to scrap with iced tea and skittles in hands and pocket.
Dude instigated the situation. He should not get off scot free.
iadtatami: I think he's just trying to hurt bN as much as it has hurt him.
The kid or the Neighborhood Watchman?
The kid or the Neighborhood Watchman?
If you logged in, you could post here.