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    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 08:41:27.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: now you are stretching, if he in fact was stalking him, arrest him for stalking.

    Do you have an erection right now Flash?
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:42:10.0 login to vote score 0
    Why won;t you guys answer any of my questions?

    Why should Zimmerman be arrested for murder when the law says he had the right to defend himself?

    Reasonable doubt comes in to play here and it would be nearly impposible to convict him.

    Maybe they could charge him with manslaughter for getting out of his car, but they would have to prove Zimmerman was the aggressor in the fight. Can that be proven without a reasonable doubt?
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:42:11.0 login to vote score 0
    the sonic dildo: The more I hear about this story, the angrier I get.

    Have you heard the tape of the 911 call where you hear a scream and then a gunshot?

    Nauseating.


    Yeah, I lost it a bit after listening to the 911 call.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:42:29.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: The dispatcher didn't tell him not to do anything. The dispatcher made him aware that it was not necessary.

    And? Then it's irrelevant.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:43:03.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: And? Then it's irrelevant.

    No, you are angry that you are irrelevant.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:43:04.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: The source is you will die a sad, lonely death. Hopefully it will be painful.

    It is rather sad you guys resort to those kinds of posts.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:43:34.0 login to vote score 0
    swingingjohnson: Do you have an erection right now Flash?

    Stop being a douche.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:44:06.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: And? Then it's irrelevant.

    No, it isn't. The legal definition of stalking doesn't change one bit. What was the legitimate purpose for Zimmerman following the kid?
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 08:45:26.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Why won;t you guys answer any of my questions?

    Why should Zimmerman be arrested for murder when the law says he had the right to defend himself?

    Reasonable doubt comes in to play here and it would be nearly impposible to convict him.

    Maybe they could charge him with manslaughter for getting out of his car, but they would have to prove Zimmerman was the aggressor in the fight. Can that be proven without a reasonable doubt?



    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:46:12.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Stop being a douche.

    Says His Royal Doucheness, King Douchebag of Doucheland.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 08:46:14.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Stop being a douche.

    That's a lot to ask man.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:46:20.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: No, you are angry that you are irrelevant.

    I am angry?


    surfnazi: The source is you will die a sad, lonely death. Hopefully it will be painful.


    You want me to quote the numerous times you guys have cussed me out, threatened me and called me names?

    Find one where I did the same, besides mocking osiris?
    the sonic dildo 11340 2012-03-20 08:46:41.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Yeah, I lost it a bit after listening to the 911 call.

    It is horrifying.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:46:44.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: It is rather sad you guys resort to those kinds of posts.

    What's sad is your years and years of this shit. You're a fucking disgrace to humans. That you semi-play this dumbfuck authoritarian simpleton EVERY DAY FOR YEARS means there is something very wrong with you. Normal people do not spend their leisure time pretending to love when authority figures abuse their power. Sure every once in a while people blow of steam and act a fool on a forum. You ARE a fool. "Reasonable Flash" is like .5% of your posts. What the fuck get a hobby that doesn't involve displaying the worst parts of you.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:46:47.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: No, it isn't. The legal definition of stalking doesn't change one bit. What was the legitimate purpose for Zimmerman following the kid?

    Because he had a right to do so.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:47:03.0 login to vote score 1
    Hey flash... would you mind going out for a bag of Skittles and an iced tea?
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:47:19.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Because he had a right to do so.

    No, he has no right to stalk anybody.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:47:19.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: What's sad is your years and years of this shit. You're a fucking disgrace to humans. That you semi-play this dumbfuck authoritarian simpleton EVERY DAY FOR YEARS means there is something very wrong with you. Normal people do not spend their leisure time pretending to love when authority figures abuse their power. Sure every once in a while people blow of steam and act a fool on a forum. You ARE a fool. "Reasonable Flash" is like .5% of your posts. What the fuck get a hobby that doesn't involve displaying the worst parts of you.

    I'm angry?
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 08:47:43.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Hey flash... would you mind going out for a bag of Skittles and an iced tea?

    In Detroit.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:47:54.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Hey flash... would you mind going out for a bag of Skittles and an iced tea?

    Sure, would you mind having a real discussion on here where you didn't threaten, or call someone names?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:47:58.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I'm angry?

    No, you're sad. I said SAD. You are upset because your life did not turn out how you wanted it to.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:48:23.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: No, he has no right to stalk anybody.

    Then arrest him for stalking.

    Prove he was stalking, following someone is not stalking though.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 08:48:38.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I'm angry?

    No. I'll bet your smiling and giggling like a school girl during this thread.
    zanexero 1637 2012-03-20 08:48:46.0 login to vote score 1
    surfnazi: What's sad is your years and years of this shit. You're a fucking disgrace to humans. That you semi-play this dumbfuck authoritarian simpleton EVERY DAY FOR YEARS means there is something very wrong with you. Normal people do not spend their leisure time pretending to love when authority figures abuse their power. Sure every once in a while people blow of steam and act a fool on a forum. You ARE a fool. "Reasonable Flash" is like .5% of your posts. What the fuck get a hobby that doesn't involve displaying the worst parts of you.

    Who are you guys arguing with ;)
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:48:52.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Then arrest him for stalking.

    Prove he was stalking, following someone is not stalking though.


    Based on the legal definition in Florida, Zimmerman stalked the kid.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:49:20.0 login to vote score 2
    zanexero: Who are you guys arguing with ;)

    Our lack of self control
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:49:24.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: No, you're sad. I said SAD. You are upset because your life did not turn out how you wanted it to.

    You said angry :/
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:49:51.0 login to vote score 0
    swingingjohnson: No. I'll bet your smiling and giggling like a school girl during this thread.

    I am actually disgusted about how you guys treat some people here.
    xxplosiv 3123 2012-03-20 08:50:02.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Why won;t you guys answer any of my questions?

    Why should Zimmerman be arrested for murder when the law says he had the right to defend himself?


    There is multiple references to Zimmerman stalking Martin to the point of initiating confrontation, therefore it was martin who had the right to defend himself, since Zimmerman decided to be fatal in his discretion of force, Zimmermans conviction of murder is his last chance for defense.


    Reasonable doubt comes in to play here and it would be nearly impposible to convict him.

    It is reasonably doubtful that Zimmerman was in a state of fear, quite contrarily he is actively pursuing Martin to the point of adverse confrontation.


    Maybe they could charge him with manslaughter for getting out of his car, but they would have to prove Zimmerman was the aggressor in the fight. Can that be proven without a reasonable doubt?

    He would be charged with manslaughter if he used his vehicle in his act of aggression. Zimmerman most definitely was the aggressor, since he was actively taking vigilante justice to the point that should be left to official peace keepers.


    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:51:04.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Based on the legal definition in Florida, Zimmerman stalked the kid.

    And like I said, charge him for that crime.

    Doesn't change the fact that this doesn't look like murder according to the law.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:51:35.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I am actually disgusted about how you guys treat some people here.

    Close. You are actually disgusting.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:52:20.0 login to vote score 0
    xxplosiv: There is multiple references to Zimmerman stalking Martin to the point of initiating confrontation, therefore it was martin who had the right to defend himself, since Zimmerman decided to be fatal in his discretion of force, Zimmermans conviction of murder is his last chance for defense.


    Reasonable doubt comes in to play here and it would be nearly impposible to convict him.

    It is reasonably doubtful that Zimmerman was in a state of fear, quite contrarily he is actively pursuing Martin to the point of adverse confrontation.


    Maybe they could charge him with manslaughter for getting out of his car, but they would have to prove Zimmerman was the aggressor in the fight. Can that be proven without a reasonable doubt?

    He would be charged with manslaughter if he used his vehicle in his act of aggression. Zimmerman most definitely was the aggressor, since he was actively taking vigilante justice to the point that should be left to official peace keepers.


    This is where we disagree, following someone is not being aggressive.

    If so, are the people who follow police and film them being aggressive?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:52:54.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: This is where we disagree, following someone is not being aggressive.

    If so, are the people who follow police and film them being aggressive?


    Yes you are not allowed to do that. Fuckface.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:53:34.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: Close. You are actually disgusting.

    yet you say I'm angry, how amusing.

    I am disgusting because I don't want someone to be arrested in violation of their civil rights?

    How about they change the law now and arrest him? I guess that's what you want :/
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:54:04.0 login to vote score 1
    The case is going to a grand jury now. We'll see what they think.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:54:14.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: Yes you are not allowed to do that. Fuckface.

    Who is the angryone here?

    You are allowed to follow the police and filme them, you guys argue that all the time.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:54:50.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: The case is going to a grand jury now. We'll see what they think.

    Good, and if they feel they can charge him they will. I know you don't feel he deserves a trial.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:55:24.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Good, and if they feel they can charge him they will. I know you don't feel he deserves a trial.

    Yes I do, you fat fuck.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:55:55.0 login to vote score 0
    Unlike fatpiglv, I like the 14th amendment.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:56:22.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Yes I do, you fat fuck.

    You have said numersou times he was already guilty.

    Seriously man, you're going off the deep end. Step back and take a break.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:56:54.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: You have said numersou times he was already guilty.

    Seriously man, you're going off the deep end. Step back and take a break.


    I didn't say a damned thing about guilt, you lying sack of pig shit.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:57:13.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Unlike fatpiglv, I like the 14th amendment.

    Your posts say otherwise. You feel he should have been arrested and charged for doing what the law allowed.


    toybox 1085 2012-03-20 08:57:27.0 login to vote score 1
    What's really interesting about this is that Zimmerman's first statement was that he got out of his vehicle to check a road sign and when he turned around Martin charged up behind him and attacked him by surprise. By his first public statement, he didn't follow anyone.

    Is lying about the circumstances that led to you shooting someone probable cause to investigate the circumstances of the shooting? The police in his hometown don't think so.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/19/2703029/us-department-of-justice-fbi-and.html#disqus_thread#storylink=cpy
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:57:46.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: I didn't say a damned thing about guilt, you lying sack of pig shit.

    We can all read between the lines.

    You need to take a break, bro :/
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 08:57:59.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Your posts say otherwise. You feel he should have been arrested and charged for doing what the law allowed.

    How else is there a trial to determine guilt without an arrest and charge? God, you the dumbest bastard I have ever encountered in my entire life!
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:58:21.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Who is the angryone here?

    You are allowed to follow the police and filme them, you guys argue that all the time.


    Yeah I'm slightly perturbed at your shit for brains act. God I hope its an act.
    xxplosiv 3123 2012-03-20 08:58:30.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: This is where we disagree, following someone is not being aggressive.

    If so, are the people who follow police and film them being aggressive?


    he didn't just follow him, he got out of his vehicle after furtively following his stalking victim. Anyone who has ever been afraid of being mugged knows you don't turn your back on somebody whom has been stalking you for more than a few minutes, and from there Zimmerman's insistence to get an address, despite dispatcher guidance saying otherwise, is an act of confrontation, from which Martin likely became reasonably scared for his own life.

    Okay flash. keep going. I'm going to be frank, where you're going, you won't need lies.

    If you were the cluster of neurons in every persons head across the world, there would be no police officers, because the first act of police brutality or power abuses would lead to an empty workforce for the blue streak at the helm of the strongarms of the law.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 08:58:36.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Who is the angryone here?

    You are allowed to follow the police and filme them, you guys argue that all the time.


    Source?
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 08:58:59.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: How else is there a trial to determine guilt without an arrest and charge? God, you the dumbest bastard I have ever encountered in my entire life!

    You can't arrest someone because of public outrage. Should they have arrested him and violated his civil rights?
    thundercougarfalconbird 457 2012-03-20 08:59:11.0 login to vote score 0
    Guys guys guys, it's pretty obvious that the kid was threatening this man with his bag of skittles. According to Florida law, if someone is acting aggressive with a bag of sweetened hard candy (which is a very effective weapon in the right hands), you absolutely have the right, some might even say duty, to shoot them dead.
    toybox 1085 2012-03-20 08:59:15.0 login to vote score 0
    bN doesn't autoparse URLs? WTF. Screw it, I'm not fixing that.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:00:26.0 login to vote score 0
    This is kinda interesting. Found this when I was googleing to find info on the height and weight of Trayvon because every photo out so far depicts him as a skinny little kid who does not look threatening.


    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:00:31.0 login to vote score 0
    toybox: bN doesn't autoparse URLs? WTF. Screw it, I'm not fixing that.

    Hah what do you think this is one of them fancy indoor toilet type forums?
    valaru 4404 2012-03-20 09:01:01.0 login to vote score 1
    The kid was being followed by an older man, too bad he didn't have a gun.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:01:03.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: Yeah I'm slightly perturbed at your shit for brains act. God I hope its an act.

    The shooting was a tragedy and wrong, IMO.

    Do you feel someone should be arrested because of public outrage? Do you think that someone should be arrested for doing something a flawed law allowed him to do?

    The guy should not have followed him and opens himself up to a manslaughter charge, but the evidence we have, there seems to be reasonabld doubt.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:01:30.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: The shooting was a tragedy and wrong, IMO.

    Do you feel someone should be arrested because of public outrage? Do you think that someone should be arrested for doing something a flawed law allowed him to do?

    The guy should not have followed him and opens himself up to a manslaughter charge, but the evidence we have, there seems to be reasonabld doubt.


    I think someone should be arrested for harassing someone, then killing them.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:01:58.0 login to vote score 0
    swingingjohnson: This is kinda interesting. Found this when I was googleing to find info on the height and weight of Trayvon because every photo out so far depicts him as a skinny little kid who does not look threatening.

    [image removed]


    I agree he doesn't look threatening, but that doesn't take into account the guys state of mind and what he felt.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:02:19.0 login to vote score 0
    valaru: The kid was being followed by an older man, too bad he didn't have a gun.

    Exactly, he could he defended himself.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:02:59.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: I think someone should be arrested for harassing someone, then killing them.

    They can't arrest him for killing him though. The law says the shooting was justified.
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-20 09:03:32.0 login to vote score 0
    Dude is on CNN right now laying waste to the cop-a-be's claim of self-defense and what the kid was up to. I am fairly certain he will be arrested. Sorry for the news flashlv.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:04:05.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I agree he doesn't look threatening, but that doesn't take into account the guys state of mind and what he felt.

    I would be scared if I was being followed by some guy in a car while I was walking.

    Wouldn't you?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:04:06.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: They can't arrest him for killing him though. The law says the shooting was justified.

    I wonder, why don't you just tell me what I should say here because this is clearly your masturbation. I just want to stroke it right.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:05:17.0 login to vote score 0
    little hands of concrete: Dude is on CNN right now laying waste to the cop-a-be's claim of self-defense and what the kid was up to. I am fairly certain he will be arrested. Sorry for the news flashlv.

    Tuned in just now.

    The way the cops handled this is crazy.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:06:29.0 login to vote score 0
    swingingjohnson: I would be scared if I was being followed by some guy in a car while I was walking.

    Wouldn't you?


    sure I would. If the kid had a legally owned gun, he could have defended himself if he was attacked.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:06:47.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: I wonder, why don't you just tell me what I should say here because this is clearly your masturbation. I just want to stroke it right.

    take a break dude.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:07:02.0 login to vote score 3
    swingingjohnson: Tuned in just now.

    The way the cops handled this is crazy.


    They handled it like incompetent cronyistic assholes. And won't be called on it.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:07:16.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: sure I would. If the kid had a legally owned gun, he could have defended himself if he was attacked.

    BANG! Your dead.

    Sorry dude. You scared me.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:07:48.0 login to vote score 0



    little hands of concrete: Dude is on CNN right now laying waste to the cop-a-be's claim of self-defense and what the kid was up to. I am fairly certain he will be arrested. Sorry for the news flashlv.

    Why are you sorry for me? If they have cause for arrest he should be arrested.

    He should not be arrested because there is public outrage.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:08:07.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: take a break dude.

    You seriously need to take a break. You present your terrible human front every fucking day, and I'm tired of looking at this same disgusting "I'm only having fun fuck everything else" shit. You're not being cute.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:08:41.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: They handled it like incompetent cronyistic assholes. And won't be called on it.

    You are welcome to your opinion, and the cops are STILL investigating. If they find cause for arrest they will ask the DA to issue a warrant for arrest.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:09:21.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: You seriously need to take a break. You present your terrible human front every fucking day, and I'm tired of looking at this same disgusting "I'm only having fun fuck everything else" shit. You're not being cute.

    I'm a horrible person because I think someone should not have their rights violated by an illegal arrest?

    Seriously?
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-20 09:09:42.0 login to vote score 1
    swingingjohnson: Tuned in just now.

    The way the cops handled this is crazy.


    They, the lawyer of the deceased, said he is turing over the phone log with the girl friend and her affidavit to federal/state authorities because they do not trust local authorities. Shit is about to get real for the cop-a-be.


    valaru 4404 2012-03-20 09:09:52.0 login to vote score 2
    ANother issue, it's a stand your ground law, he didn't stand he ground, he approached the kid.


    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 09:10:51.0 login to vote score 0
    valaru: ANother issue, it's a stand your ground law, he didn't stand he ground, he approached the kid.

    Exactly. He chased the kid. Hell the kid tried to get away from him multiple times. Chasing someone down isn't "standing your ground".
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-20 09:11:37.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Why are you sorry for me? If they have cause for arrest he should be arrested.

    He should not be arrested because there is public outrage.


    Whatever, Cop-A-Be Defender.


    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:11:40.0 login to vote score 0
    valaru: ANother issue, it's a stand your ground law, he didn't stand he ground, he approached the kid.

    That's not what anything states. Do have a link that says that?
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:11:54.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I'm a horrible person because I think someone should not have their rights violated by an illegal arrest?

    Seriously?


    In some ways you should be commended(maybe) as I often have to tell myself you're just an act. Then I see the act and realize you're perverted joys are not the same as other trolls. Other trolls are people who can break character.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:12:07.0 login to vote score 0
    little hands of concrete: Whatever, Cop-A-Be Defender.

    I have not defended anyone though.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 09:13:05.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: That's not what anything states. Do have a link that says that?

    Yes.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:13:50.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: In some ways you should be commended(maybe) as I often have to tell myself you're just an act. Then I see the act and realize you're perverted joys are not the same as other trolls. Other trolls are people who can break character.

    Why do you feel that way? I already said the killing was disgusting and the shooter is a waste of flesh.

    Should I be calling for his head because he shot someone justifiably?
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-20 09:14:27.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: That's not what anything states. Do have a link that says that?

    His girlfriend, to whom phone logs show he was talking to at the time, claims he was running to get out of the rain ... then he realizes the cop-a-be is following him and is wondering why. He tries to run/walk fast away from him and asks what his deal is ... blah blah blah ... your buddy, the cop-a-be, probably really fucked up and killed a kid for no reason. Sorry to let you know.


    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-20 09:14:42.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: I have not defended anyone though.

    LOL.


    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:15:55.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Yes.

    No, it doesn't say that at all.

    But glad they have a witness, maybe there will be an arrest if the evidence shows he was the aggressor.


    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:16:48.0 login to vote score -1
    little hands of concrete: His girlfriend, to whom phone logs show he was talking to at the time, claims he was running to get out of the rain ... then he realizes the cop-a-be is following him and is wondering why. He tries to run/walk fast away from him and asks what his deal is ... blah blah blah ... your buddy, the cop-a-be, probably really fucked up and killed a kid for no reason. Sorry to let you know.

    Why are you sorry?!?!

    Why are you being an asshole?
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 09:17:20.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: No, it doesn't say that at all.

    But glad they have a witness, maybe there will be an arrest if the evidence shows he was the aggressor.


    You didn't even read it, did you? Here, let me help you since you're too dumb to navigate an article on your own:

    "He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the girl said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

    Eventually he ran, she said, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the man was back, cornering Trayvon, she said.

    "Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for?' and the man said, 'What are you doing here?' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

    Then the line went dead, she said.

    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:19:04.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: They handled it like incompetent cronyistic assholes. And won't be called on it.

    Zimmerman was studying law enforcement. He probably had some buddies on the force.

    I won't be surprised if it comes out that he went on some ride-alongs with police as most all law enforcement student do.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:20:00.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: Why are you sorry?!?!

    Why are you being an asshole?


    You learned to play this bN like a fiddle.

    I'm proud of you son!
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:20:05.0 login to vote score -1
    osirisothedead: You didn't even read it, did you? Here, let me help you since you're too dumb to navigate an article on your own:

    "He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the girl said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

    Eventually he ran, she said, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the man was back, cornering Trayvon, she said.

    "Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for?' and the man said, 'What are you doing here?' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

    Then the line went dead, she said.


    unreliable witness, at least that's what you would say.

    I already said glad they have a witness, maybe there will be an arrest. Witherspoon evidence they can arrest people, not like how you think it should happen.


    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 09:20:18.0 login to vote score 2
    swingingjohnson: Zimmerman was studying law enforcement. He probably had some buddies on the force.

    I won't be surprised if it comes out that he went on some ride-alongs with police as most all law enforcement student do.


    Zimmerman also has a prior arrest record for battery.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-03-20 09:20:50.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: unreliable witness, at least that's what you would say.

    You said that no article said that he was being followed. Well, there's one that does. So fuck off.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:21:04.0 login to vote score -1
    swingingjohnson: You learned to play this bN like a fiddle.

    I'm proud of you son!


    I just don't understand why some people are such assholes here.
    little hands of concrete 1804 2012-03-20 09:21:20.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Why are you sorry?!?!

    Why are you being an asshole?


    Just because he followed the kid doesn't mean he escalated it.

    Following someone should be illegal!

    What did this guy do wrong?

    This was not stalking.

    What did the guy do that was illegal?

    What was illegally done in this case?

    That is a point of escalation, but don't you think the kid also escalated more?

    Getting out of a car is illegal!

    What did this guy do that was illegal???

    Self Defense laws, sorry you feel that way.

    I'll ask again, what was illegal here?

    It was tragic, but following someone is not against the law.

    Self Defense is automatically illegal?

    And? That doesn't mean the shooting was unjustified.

    Black kid automatically a victim. You all sound like Sharpton.



    tass 609 2012-03-20 09:22:15.0 login to vote score 1
    flash...you're on the wrong side of this one and you know it.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:22:15.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Zimmerman also has a prior arrest record for battery.

    I'm curious as to the height & weight of Zimmerman & the kid Trayvon.

    Zim looks pretty solid. The kid looks like a skinny kid.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:23:01.0 login to vote score -1
    osirisothedead: You said that no article said that he was being followed. Well, there's one that does. So fuck off.

    I didn't see that one, but glad to know you are still unreasonable and angry.

    Sorry for that bro.
    swingingjohnson 175 2012-03-20 09:23:21.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: Zimmerman also has a prior arrest record for battery.

    I can't help but speculate he had some family connections. Rarely does an assault on a cop get charges dropped.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:24:32.0 login to vote score 0
    flashlv: I just don't understand why some people are such assholes here.

    If they think playing a game of "any type of response is win", you can imagine how sad their pathetic lives must be.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:24:44.0 login to vote score -1
    tass: flash...you're on the wrong side of this one and you know it.

    Wrong side of what?

    It's wrong to want evidence before an arrest is made?

    I'll always be on the wrong side then.
    surfnazi 932 2012-03-20 09:25:32.0 login to vote score 1
    tass: flash...you're on the wrong side of this one and you know it.

    Yeah he knew it right out of the gate. Which is why he was on that side.
    flashlv 1657 2012-03-20 09:25:38.0 login to vote score -1
    surfnazi: If they think playing a game of "any type of response is win", you can imagine how sad their pathetic lives must be.

    What game?

    People are getting angry because I look at the law.
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