BREAKING SHIT! New 911 call, Trayvon screaming in terror for 30 seconds, "HELP! HELP ME! NOOOOO! and the BANG!
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If only this kid had been armed.
Once the voice is confirmed as the kid's, Zimmerman is toast.
czarangelus: If only this kid had been armed.
Then the other guy's claim of self defense would have actually held some water?
Then the other guy's claim of self defense would have actually held some water?
Really sounds like he tackled or laid hands on the kid, and the kid exercised his rights in light of Zimmerman's assault.
So when is Flash going to show up and say we still dont have all the facts so the only logical conclusion is the guy is telling the 100% truth and we should just believe it and move on?
swingingjohnson: Once the voice is confirmed as the kid's, Zimmerman is toast.
Would look bad for Zimmerman, but still doesnt show his state of mind. You can blame the stand your ground law for that.
Would look bad for Zimmerman, but still doesnt show his state of mind. You can blame the stand your ground law for that.
gradivus: So when is Flash going to show up and say we still dont have all the facts so the only logical conclusion is the guy is telling the 100% truth and we should just believe it and move on?
8 seconds.
8 seconds.
mike.refreshment: Then the other guy's claim of self defense would have actually held some water?
Bazinga.
Bazinga.
flashlv: Would look bad for Zimmerman, but still doesnt show his state of mind. You can blame the stand your ground law for that.
Yes it's the law's fault this guy shot a much smaller teenager.
And if you legalize weed surgeons will show up for brain surgery smelling like Woodstock.
Yes it's the law's fault this guy shot a much smaller teenager.
And if you legalize weed surgeons will show up for brain surgery smelling like Woodstock.
Zimmerman gave up the self-defense claim when he gave chase with a loaded weapon.
breaking shit: new audio recording, officer: "STOP RESISTING! STOP RESISTING!" and then the ZAP, THWACK.
\jus' sayin'
\jus' sayin'
Seriously, Zimmerman had a very fucked up tone in his call. He sounded like he identified a culprit in his own mind and wasn't gonna let him get away, period. Zimmerman couldn't find trouble so he made his own, and it's astonishing he has yet to be sent up the river. I think he inevitably will be. There's too much national heat for a three horse and a stoplight town like Sanford FL
l.darte: Zimmerman gave up the self-defense claim when he gave chase with a loaded weapon.
Agreed. I don't even care about the racial factor. It's...Whatever. He chased down and shot a much younger, much smaller person.
Agreed. I don't even care about the racial factor. It's...Whatever. He chased down and shot a much younger, much smaller person.
l.darte: Zimmerman gave up the self-defense claim when he gave chase with a loaded weapon.
flash's response to this is that "following people isn't illegal".
flash's response to this is that "following people isn't illegal".
kswheels: Agreed. I don't even care about the racial factor. It's...Whatever. He chased down and shot a much younger, much smaller person.
How is size relevant?
How is size relevant?
czarangelus: Seriously, Zimmerman had a very fucked up tone in his call. He sounded like he identified a culprit in his own mind and wasn't gonna let him get away, period. Zimmerman couldn't find trouble so he made his own, and it's astonishing he has yet to be sent up the river. I think he inevitably will be. There's too much national heat for a three horse and a stoplight town like Sanford FL
I thought he sounded drunk.
I thought he sounded drunk.
osirisothedead: flash's response to this is that "following people isn't illegal".
It's not, why do you feel it's illegal to go on a walk?
It's not, why do you feel it's illegal to go on a walk?
flashlv: How is size relevant?
You're not stupid, don't act like it. The size of them men goes to the credibility of the self defense claim.
You're not stupid, don't act like it. The size of them men goes to the credibility of the self defense claim.
czarangelus: Stand your ground specifically disallows you from giving chase
No, it does not.
If you chase then get confronted, it doesn't waive your rights to protect yourself.
If someone steals your bike, you aren't allowed to chase?
No, it does not.
If you chase then get confronted, it doesn't waive your rights to protect yourself.
If someone steals your bike, you aren't allowed to chase?
czarangelus: Seriously, Zimmerman had a very fucked up tone in his call. He sounded like he identified a culprit in his own mind and wasn't gonna let him get away, period. Zimmerman couldn't find trouble so he made his own, and it's astonishing he has yet to be sent up the river. I think he inevitably will be. There's too much national heat for a three horse and a stoplight town like Sanford FL
Yep, this new 9/11 tape is pretty damning. Plus there are witnesses, plus the fact this asshole chased down a kid, assaulted him, and then shot him because he "looked" suspicious, even though he was doing nothing wrong. If he doesnt get arrested he damn well better move and change his name otherwise street justice might show up. And all you have to do is say "he was coming right for us" and its not like the cops cant say that wasnt a valid defense if they dont arrest him.
Yep, this new 9/11 tape is pretty damning. Plus there are witnesses, plus the fact this asshole chased down a kid, assaulted him, and then shot him because he "looked" suspicious, even though he was doing nothing wrong. If he doesnt get arrested he damn well better move and change his name otherwise street justice might show up. And all you have to do is say "he was coming right for us" and its not like the cops cant say that wasnt a valid defense if they dont arrest him.
flashlv: No, it does not. If you chase then get confronted, it doesn't waive your rights to protect yourself. If someone steals your bike, you aren't allowed to chase?
Did this kid steal a bike?
Did this kid steal a bike?
flashlv: No, it does not.
If you chase then get confronted, it doesn't waive your rights to protect yourself.
If someone steals your bike, you aren't allowed to chase?
Youre an idiot.
If you chase then get confronted, it doesn't waive your rights to protect yourself.
If someone steals your bike, you aren't allowed to chase?
Youre an idiot.
kswheels: You're not stupid, don't act like it. The size of them men goes to the credibility of the self defense claim.
Again, not completely true. If the guy was truly fearing for his life, does he not have the ability to protect himself?
Again, not completely true. If the guy was truly fearing for his life, does he not have the ability to protect himself?
Besides, if ANYONE has the right to stand your ground in this case, it's the kid. Who's got odds on whether Zimmerman laid hands on him first? I'll pay 40:1 against flashlv.
swingingjohnson: Once the voice is confirmed as the kid's, Zimmerman is toast.
Yep. But then again the system let OJ off the hook, so it isn't perfect or exact science. The flaw in it within the justice system among a jury of peers is always going to be human doubt.
Yep. But then again the system let OJ off the hook, so it isn't perfect or exact science. The flaw in it within the justice system among a jury of peers is always going to be human doubt.
czarangelus: Besides, if ANYONE has the right to stand your ground in this case, it's the kid. Who's got odds on whether Zimmerman laid hands on him first? I'll pay 40:1 against flashlv.
Would be nice to know that.
Would be nice to know that.
Uggggggh, this case makes me sick.
czarangelus: Who's got odds on whether Zimmerman laid hands on him first?
Well, only one party in this case had been previously arrested for threatening violence against a police officer.
Well, only one party in this case had been previously arrested for threatening violence against a police officer.
Just because you chase does NOT relinquish your rights to protect yourself.
flashlv: Again, not completely true. If the guy was truly fearing for his life, does he not have the ability to protect himself?
Where is the evidence that he feared for his life? He said so? Fuck that. In every sane state in the union you are required to prove that you were acting in self defense. It's not up to others to prove you weren't.
Where is the evidence that he feared for his life? He said so? Fuck that. In every sane state in the union you are required to prove that you were acting in self defense. It's not up to others to prove you weren't.
flashlv: Again, not completely true. If the guy was truly fearing for his life, does he not have the ability to protect himself?
You dont get to chase down a child, then start a fight with him as he screams in terror and then shoot him and claim self defense, no. Stop being a fucking retarded idiot.
You dont get to chase down a child, then start a fight with him as he screams in terror and then shoot him and claim self defense, no. Stop being a fucking retarded idiot.
flashlv: Analogy
How do you make an analogy between a criminal and a not-criminal?
flashlv: Would be nice to know that.
Why would the kid stop walking? You think he just turned around and punched Zimmerman in the face? ANd even if he did, shooting isn't proportional violence. This guy wanted to bag himself a spook and by god, he did.
How do you make an analogy between a criminal and a not-criminal?
flashlv: Would be nice to know that.
Why would the kid stop walking? You think he just turned around and punched Zimmerman in the face? ANd even if he did, shooting isn't proportional violence. This guy wanted to bag himself a spook and by god, he did.
flashlv: Just because you chase does NOT relinquish your rights to protect yourself.
Yes, yes it does.
Yes, yes it does.
kswheels: Where is the evidence that he feared for his life? He said so? Fuck that. In every sane state in the union you are required to prove that you were acting in self defense. It's not up to others to prove you weren't.
That's the problem with self defense laws. You just have to prove you feared for your life.
That's the problem with self defense laws. You just have to prove you feared for your life.
flashlv: That's the problem with self defense laws. You just have to prove you feared for your life.
You dont chase after things and confront them if you are scared for your life.
You dont chase after things and confront them if you are scared for your life.
gradivus: Yes, yes it does.
No it doesn't.
If you chase a burglar and he pulls a gun, you aren't allowed to defend yourself because you chased him?
No it doesn't.
If you chase a burglar and he pulls a gun, you aren't allowed to defend yourself because you chased him?
flashlv: That's the problem with self defense laws. You just have to prove you feared for your life.
No, you have to prove that your fear constituted a "reasonable belief".
No, you have to prove that your fear constituted a "reasonable belief".
flashlv: Just because you chase does NOT relinquish your rights to protect yourself.
I hope someone hunts your ass down and defends you to death.
I hope someone hunts your ass down and defends you to death.
What was the kid doing behind peoples houses?
flashlv: No it doesn't.
If you chase a burglar and he pulls a gun, you aren't allowed to defend yourself because you chased him?
Yes, yes it does, if you are fearing for your life you dont go chasing after someone. Thats vigilantism and is illegal.
If you chase a burglar and he pulls a gun, you aren't allowed to defend yourself because you chased him?
Yes, yes it does, if you are fearing for your life you dont go chasing after someone. Thats vigilantism and is illegal.
Zimmerman's going up the river anyway. I doubt the Sanford PD is interested in facing a DOJ investigation.
czarangelus: Besides, if ANYONE has the right to stand your ground in this case, it's the kid. Who's got odds on whether Zimmerman laid hands on him first? I'll pay 40:1 against flashlv.
I don't see why it should matter. A minor doing nothing wrong was accosted in the street by a hostile adult stranger, then shot to death. That these facts alone didn't result in an immediate arrest is inexcusable.
I don't see why it should matter. A minor doing nothing wrong was accosted in the street by a hostile adult stranger, then shot to death. That these facts alone didn't result in an immediate arrest is inexcusable.
gradivus: You dont chase after things and confront them if you are scared for your life.
No shit. But that's why that doesn't matter, it's what happens in the whole encounter.
No shit. But that's why that doesn't matter, it's what happens in the whole encounter.
flashlv: That's the problem with self defense laws. You just have to prove you feared for your life.
Which Zimmerman has not done.
Which Zimmerman has not done.
mike.refreshment: I hope someone hunts your ass down and defends you to death.
More violence aimed towards me, how sad.
More violence aimed towards me, how sad.
flashlv: More violence aimed towards me, how sad.
Just defending myself. I'm sure you are a lovely person, but your troll persona needs to die in a fucking fire.
Just defending myself. I'm sure you are a lovely person, but your troll persona needs to die in a fucking fire.
kswheels: Which Zimmerman has not done.
It hasn't been proved that he didn't fear for his life either.
It hasn't been proved that he didn't fear for his life either.
flashlv: Exactly.
I have a reasonable belief that flashlv is a mrotal danger to all of us. Time to warm up the Hellfire drone.
I have a reasonable belief that flashlv is a mrotal danger to all of us. Time to warm up the Hellfire drone.
gradivus: Yes, yes it does, if you are fearing for your life you dont go chasing after someone. Thats vigilantism and is illegal.
Source where you can't defend yourself?
Source where you can't defend yourself?
czarangelus: I have a reasonable belief that flashlv is a mrotal danger to all of us. Time to warm up the Hellfire drone.
That's a taggin
That's a taggin
mike.refreshment: Just defending myself. I'm sure you are a lovely person, but your troll persona needs to die in a fucking fire.
What troll persona? Do you think this guy is guilty? Do you think the law doesn't apply to him? He has no rights just because you are outraged?
What troll persona? Do you think this guy is guilty? Do you think the law doesn't apply to him? He has no rights just because you are outraged?
flashlv: Exactly.
"Reasonable belief" is an objective standard. Your statement "you just have to prove you feared for your life" is a purely subjective standard.
"Reasonable belief" is an objective standard. Your statement "you just have to prove you feared for your life" is a purely subjective standard.
flashlv: More violence aimed towards me, how sad.
Coilence begets violence. Shooting it will only make it stronger.
Coilence begets violence. Shooting it will only make it stronger.
flashlv: It hasn't been proved that he didn't fear for his life either.
I have a difficult time believing somebody who was arrested for beating up a cop is scared of an unarmed, 140lb minor.
I have a difficult time believing somebody who was arrested for beating up a cop is scared of an unarmed, 140lb minor.
Baron has me on super ignore but still uncool votes me lol.
twitch osx: Coilence begets violence. Shooting it will only make it stronger.
Yea yea, that's a taggin
Yea yea, that's a taggin
Tagged Coilence begets violence
lol@everyone feeding the troll.
He even poked the beehive with this, a non-reply:
flashlv: Just because you chase does NOT relinquish your rights to protect yourself.
Jeez, people.
Oh, and flash, you're an asshole. A big, prolapsed, slip-shits having, herpes-infected, smegma-encrusted, filled to the brim with semen asshole.
Whew...ok, moving on.
He even poked the beehive with this, a non-reply:
flashlv: Just because you chase does NOT relinquish your rights to protect yourself.
Jeez, people.
Oh, and flash, you're an asshole. A big, prolapsed, slip-shits having, herpes-infected, smegma-encrusted, filled to the brim with semen asshole.
Whew...ok, moving on.
osirisothedead: I have a difficult time believing somebody who was arrested for beating up a cop is scared of an unarmed, 140lb minor.
Drunk people fight cops a lot.
Drunk people fight cops a lot.
flashlv: Baron has me on super ignore but still uncool votes me lol.
LOL - flash is so stupid i wanted to read more tardisms
LOL - flash is so stupid i wanted to read more tardisms
flashlv: What troll persona? Do you think this guy is guilty? Do you think the law doesn't apply to him? He has no rights just because you are outraged?
The one that analyzes a situation and takes up the least popular position every single time. I won't be engaging you further on this topic.
The one that analyzes a situation and takes up the least popular position every single time. I won't be engaging you further on this topic.
So much hate because I don't call for this guy to be lunched.
I feel sad for you bners that are so angry at people who analyze the evidence and looks at the laws that apply.
I feel sad for you bners that are so angry at people who analyze the evidence and looks at the laws that apply.
flashlv: It hasn't been proved that he didn't fear for his life either.
The onus is on him to prove he was.
The onus is on him to prove he was.
flashlv: So much hate because I don't call for this guy to be lunched. I feel sad for you bners that are so angry at people who analyze the evidence and looks at the laws that apply.
Lynching black boys in their own neighborhood still OK
Lynching black boys in their own neighborhood still OK
flashlv: So much hate because I don't call for this guy to be lunched.
I don't see anybody calling for him to be stuck in a brown paper sack.
I don't see anybody calling for him to be stuck in a brown paper sack.
mike.refreshment: The one that analyzes a situation and takes up the least popular position every single time. I won't be engaging you further on this topic.
Least popular? Why does it have to be about popularity?
I am sad this happened, but just because I feel that way, doesn't mean I throw everything out the window like you guys are.
Least popular? Why does it have to be about popularity?
I am sad this happened, but just because I feel that way, doesn't mean I throw everything out the window like you guys are.
osirisothedead: I don't see anybody calling for him to be stuck in a brown paper sack.
This thread is now about prison lunches.
This thread is now about prison lunches.
flashlv: Sure, innocent before proven guilty ring a bell?
In a court of law, he wasn't even arrested.
In a court of law, he wasn't even arrested.
flashlv: So much hate because I don't call for this guy to be lunched.
no one is saying he can't eat
just don't kill innocent kids
no one is saying he can't eat
just don't kill innocent kids
flashlv: Least popular? Why does it have to be about popularity?
Because if you weren't championing the unpopular, you wouldn't get to argue so much.
Because if you weren't championing the unpopular, you wouldn't get to argue so much.
Does the law allow someone to defend themselves?
Does it say you cannot chase the person?
Does it say you cannot chase the person?
flashlv: Does the law allow someone to defend themselves? Does it say you cannot chase the person?
YES.
STAND YOUR GROUND.
NOT MOVE YOUR GROUND AFTER SOMEBODY.
IT'S EVEN IN THE GODDAMN WORDS FLASH
YES.
STAND YOUR GROUND.
NOT MOVE YOUR GROUND AFTER SOMEBODY.
IT'S EVEN IN THE GODDAMN WORDS FLASH
flashlv: Would look bad for Zimmerman, but still doesnt show his state of mind. You can blame the stand your ground law for that.
State of mind doesn't matter if it is not a reasonable position. If I'm terrified of clowns and someone comes at me with a bannination sticker and I think they are trying to kill me, I can't just kill them because I felt terrified.
State of mind doesn't matter if it is not a reasonable position. If I'm terrified of clowns and someone comes at me with a bannination sticker and I think they are trying to kill me, I can't just kill them because I felt terrified.
flashlv: Does the law allow someone to defend themselves?
Does it say you cannot chase the person?
well there have been court cases that have said you cannot persue someone and shoot them in self defense.
Does it say you cannot chase the person?
well there have been court cases that have said you cannot persue someone and shoot them in self defense.
flash gonna flash
valaru: In a court of law, he wasn't even arrested.
Why? Because the evidence doesn't show reasonable doubt.
You can't arrest people because of public outrage.
Why? Because the evidence doesn't show reasonable doubt.
You can't arrest people because of public outrage.
Sounds like shooter might be paying ole sparky a visit.
valaru: well there have been court cases that have said you cannot persue someone and shoot them in self defense.
In Florida where you chased and then were jumped or beaten?
In Florida where you chased and then were jumped or beaten?
brazil: Sounds like shooter might be paying ole sparky a visit.
Quite possibly, but the investigation isn't done yet.
Quite possibly, but the investigation isn't done yet.
supergrover: Please tell me the picture is just a juicy accident ...
Nosir. That's Sheldon Cooper. Bazinga is his go-to line when he thinks he's pwned someone.
Nosir. That's Sheldon Cooper. Bazinga is his go-to line when he thinks he's pwned someone.
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