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    so vote republican 6688 2012-04-12 23:14:07.0 login to vote score 1
    There goes my rape case.
    eddyatwork 998 2012-04-12 23:16:20.0 login to vote score 0
    Serious foodie is serious.
    cousin dupree 3964 2012-04-12 23:30:14.0 login to vote score 0
    And that delicious Grouper sandwich you chomped into? Fakety fake too. Most of the fish in South Florida is fake.
    mtbhucker 1201 2012-04-12 23:33:57.0 login to vote score -1
    Years ago, it used to be common for restaurants to serve beef or pork cutlets as veal cutlets.
    cousin dupree 3964 2012-04-12 23:42:04.0 login to vote score 0
    mtbhucker: Years ago, it used to be common for restaurants to serve beef or pork cutlets as veal cutlets.

    There was that one time where I ordered the "beef soup" in Sav Lamar in Jamaica. That beef seemed to have a whole lot of goat bones in it with an extreme shot of kitchen bouquet. This shit happens all over the world. You can't trust the meat/fish anywhere. It's endemic.
    eddyatwork 998 2012-04-12 23:44:35.0 login to vote score 6
    cousin dupree: There was that one time where I ordered the "beef soup" in Sav Lamar in Jamaica. That beef seemed to have a whole lot of goat bones in it with an extreme shot of kitchen bouquet. This shit happens all over the world. You can't trust the meat/fish anywhere. It's endemic.

    Not true with me. When I offer a woman my meat, it's 100% genuine grade A eddy!
    cousin dupree 3964 2012-04-12 23:59:48.0 login to vote score 11
    eddyatwork: Not true with me. When I offer a woman my meat, it's 100% genuine grade A eddy!

    So lots of little bones and tasting like kitchen bouquet.
    myinternetname 3691 2012-04-13 01:52:18.0 login to vote score 0
    I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU.
    zylon 916 2012-04-13 03:56:27.0 login to vote score 0
    What a screeching little douchebag.
    finnley wren 24 2012-04-13 04:01:51.0 login to vote score 1
    Editing.

    Look into it.
    the sonic dildo 11340 2012-04-13 04:12:05.0 login to vote score 0
    Why do I have to wait to hear about Waygu beef?

    I heard that is even better than Kobe beef according to restaurants.

    ambition chicken 290 2012-04-13 04:20:32.0 login to vote score 1
    I like how Forbes use a big font meant for children's books.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-04-13 04:23:54.0 login to vote score 0
    cousin dupree: And that delicious Grouper sandwich you chomped into? Fakety fake too. Most of the fish in South Florida is fake.

    Most people can't tell the difference between one flaky white salt-water fish and another.

    A restaurant I worked at routinely served snapper as grouper, because it was cheaper.
    the sonic dildo 11340 2012-04-13 04:28:10.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: Most people can't tell the difference between one flaky white salt-water fish and another.

    A restaurant I worked at routinely served snapper as grouper, because it was cheaper.



    Typical socialism.... defrauding innocent people. Nice.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-04-13 04:29:38.0 login to vote score 2
    the sonic dildo: Typical socialism.... defrauding innocent people. Nice.

    but we certainly don't want that pesky 'gubbermant regulation stuff' getting in the way of industry putting profits before customers

    the sonic dildo 11340 2012-04-13 04:34:02.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: but we certainly don't want that pesky 'gubbermant regulation stuff' getting in the way of industry putting profits before customers



    I would imagine there are laws in place already that do not allow fraud here.
    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-04-13 04:38:41.0 login to vote score 0
    the sonic dildo: I would imagine there are laws in place already that do not allow fraud here.

    and yet it happens... shocking...

    the sonic dildo 11340 2012-04-13 04:48:28.0 login to vote score 0
    baron muchhumpin: and yet it happens... shocking...


    Enforcement!


    Hey... have you ever eaten at Louie's Lunch near Yale? I saw that on Food Network and I have to eat there.


    baron muchhumpin 4248 2012-04-13 04:52:30.0 login to vote score 0
    the sonic dildo: Enforcement!
    Hey... have you ever eaten at Louie's Lunch near Yale? I saw that on Food Network and I have to eat there.


    I haven't.. only been down to that campus a couple of times.


    did have lunch in the North End yesterday and someone got a Kobe beef burger and loved it.. i wont send her this article :)

    willywanka 274 2012-04-13 05:36:46.0 login to vote score 1
    Just wait until he learns that most fast food places that tout "angus" burgers don't actually meet the minimum requirements to be labeled "certified angus beef"!!!!!!

    Hate to tell the guy but the terms "American Kobe" and "Kobe-like" have been used by butchers for years, it usually refers to the treatment and preparation. Does this guy really believe that most people think when they're eating a kobe slider that the beef came from Japan? Also, American kobe style beef is deliberately different in nature because americans typically eat their beef in steak, roast or hamburger form, none of which would work with "real" kobe, in large part due to the extremely high fat content. This guy just wants to be that guy at. The party who not only needs to correct you about eating a delicious kobe burger for lunch, but needs to add that he's had GENUINE kobe beef when he was in JAPAN (oooooohhhhh!!!!!!)
    abt12monk 10796 2012-04-13 05:59:18.0 login to vote score 1
    the sonic dildo: Typical socialism.... defrauding innocent people. Nice.

    Socialism? That has nothing to do with anything.

    That was a restaurant in the US. The owner was a cheap capitalist (not to mention, an idiot) who knew he could get away with it.
    eclecticman66 2141 2012-04-13 06:11:54.0 login to vote score 0
    You want good steak?

    Go to any small town bar in any state that raises corn. It will be good and cheap.

    Grass feed beef usually is not all that good (I'm talking to you, South Dakota cow!).
    valaru 4404 2012-04-13 06:25:01.0 login to vote score 0
    eclecticman66: You want good steak?

    Go to any small town bar in any state that raises corn. It will be good and cheap.

    Grass feed beef usually is not all that good (I'm talking to you, South Dakota cow!).


    I like grass fed better.


    quiet former lurker 102 2012-04-13 06:27:49.0 login to vote score 0
    If you can't tell the flesh of a grouper and the flesh of a snapper, I feel bad for you son.
    fatsean 3838 2012-04-13 06:34:13.0 login to vote score 0
    You can't trust a restaurant I guess. I'll stick with my local grass fed beef cooked on my local charcoal grill.
    fatsean 3838 2012-04-13 06:34:58.0 login to vote score 2
    quiet former lurker: If you can't tell the flesh of a grouper and the flesh of a snapper, I feel bad for you son.

    Got 99 problems but a fish ain't one.
    muninsfire 189 2012-04-13 06:35:00.0 login to vote score 1
    cousin dupree: And that delicious Grouper sandwich you chomped into? Fakety fake too. Most of the fish in South Florida is fake.

    There's a movement out there at the moment to perform genetic testing on fish to specifically catch the endemic forgery of certain species.

    All in all, though, this is sort of an Emperor's New Clothes situation: a lot of people with more money than sense or expertise are paying through the nose and being, frankly, cheated, because they have no idea how to tell the 'real' thing from the fake thing.

    Given that half the people in this country overcook the shit out of their fish and drown it in tartar sauce, that's really not surprising--and given a lot of people think they know more about this sort of thing than they do, it's not surprising that they're so inexpert at it.

    Think about the rich winos--how many of them can honestly tell a 'good' bottle from a 'bad' one without consultation of the price list?
    muninsfire 189 2012-04-13 06:35:33.0 login to vote score 0
    quiet former lurker: If you can't tell the flesh of a grouper and the flesh of a snapper, I feel bad for you son.

    Some people have never had the opportunity to experience the real thing.
    valaru 4404 2012-04-13 06:47:15.0 login to vote score 1
    muninsfire: There's a movement out there at the moment to perform genetic testing on fish to specifically catch the endemic forgery of certain species.

    All in all, though, this is sort of an Emperor's New Clothes situation: a lot of people with more money than sense or expertise are paying through the nose and being, frankly, cheated, because they have no idea how to tell the 'real' thing from the fake thing.

    Given that half the people in this country overcook the shit out of their fish and drown it in tartar sauce, that's really not surprising--and given a lot of people think they know more about this sort of thing than they do, it's not surprising that they're so inexpert at it.

    Think about the rich winos--how many of them can honestly tell a 'good' bottle from a 'bad' one without consultation of the price list?


    I've had some REALLY good cheap wine, and some REALLY bad expensive wine.

    I like my meats and fish like I like your mothers, cheap.

    If it tastes good I don't care what kind of fish it is.
    quinblake 1476 2012-04-13 06:51:08.0 login to vote score 3
    muninsfire: There's a movement out there at the moment to perform genetic testing on fish to specifically catch the endemic forgery of certain species.

    All in all, though, this is sort of an Emperor's New Clothes situation: a lot of people with more money than sense or expertise are paying through the nose and being, frankly, cheated, because they have no idea how to tell the 'real' thing from the fake thing.

    Given that half the people in this country overcook the shit out of their fish and drown it in tartar sauce, that's really not surprising--and given a lot of people think they know more about this sort of thing than they do, it's not surprising that they're so inexpert at it.

    Think about the rich winos--how many of them can honestly tell a 'good' bottle from a 'bad' one without consultation of the price list?


    I prepared some locally caught pickerel fillets ( like walleye ) the other night. Washed, dried, dipped in milk then coated in finely ground up corn flakes then fried in butter and olive oil. Served with a lemon wedge, it was sublime.
    quinblake 1476 2012-04-13 06:52:28.0 login to vote score 0
    the sonic dildo: Typical socialism.... defrauding innocent people. Nice.

    I think he's from the US. Just doing a phd out there.
    submitter 10915 2012-04-13 07:09:51.0 login to vote score 0
    Fuck beeflitists.
    vintowin 7981 2012-04-13 07:36:22.0 login to vote score 1
    quinblake: I prepared some locally caught pickerel fillets ( like walleye ) the other night. Washed, dried, dipped in milk then coated in finely ground up corn flakes then fried in butter and olive oil. Served with a lemon wedge, it was sublime.

    I just had to wipe the drool from my mouth...
    notnews 579 2012-04-13 08:26:34.0 login to vote score 0

    someone who may or may not be the hamburglar 2012-04-13 08:38:00.0 login to vote score 0
    It is now illegal to import (or even hand carry for personal consumption) any Japanese beef.

    wtf
    surfnazi 932 2012-04-13 08:50:44.0 login to vote score 0
    someone who may or may not be the hamburglar: It is now illegal to import (or even hand carry for personal consumption) any Japanese beef.

    wtf


    I think he's just referring to normal import rules, like you can't just carry fruits/vegetables and shit into a country.
    cardinal puff 887 2012-04-13 08:56:39.0 login to vote score 1
    surfnazi: I think he's just referring to normal import rules, like you can't just carry fruits/vegetables and shit into a country.

    Oh great. Now they're giving colonic lavages before people get to the customs lines?
    hornwrecker 48 2012-04-13 09:00:08.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: I think he's just referring to normal import rules, like you can't just carry fruits/vegetables and shit into a country.

    It could be retaliatory, from when Japan banned all US beef due to mad cow or something like that.

    asstronaut 10331 2012-04-13 09:15:22.0 login to vote score 1
    the sonic dildo: Why do I have to wait to hear about Waygu beef?I heard that is even better than Kobe beef according to restaurants.

    Wagyu is a breed. Kobe is a place.
    If you can't get a cow from Kobe, then get a cow like they have in Kobe.
    But I suspect Americans don't respect the designation.
    Don't worry -- grinding this beef is a waste. It's good they were cheated.
    valaru 4404 2012-04-13 09:26:12.0 login to vote score 0
    asstronaut: Wagyu is a breed. Kobe is a place.
    If you can't get a cow from Kobe, then get a cow like they have in Kobe.
    But I suspect Americans don't respect the designation.
    Don't worry -- grinding this beef is a waste. It's good they were cheated.


    I heard (as I have not tried it) that it can be a disappointment to lovers of good old aged steaks.

    Different tastes I guess
    asstronaut 10331 2012-04-13 09:31:54.0 login to vote score 0
    valaru: I heard (as I have not tried it) that it can be a disappointment to lovers of good old aged steaks.Different tastes I guess

    Maybe. The preparation is not at all like aged steaks.
    surfnazi 932 2012-04-13 09:37:55.0 login to vote score 0
    asstronaut: Maybe. The preparation is not at all like aged steaks.

    Yeah I hear it will just fall apart if done incorrectly.
    asstronaut 10331 2012-04-13 12:28:56.0 login to vote score 0
    surfnazi: Yeah I hear it will just fall apart if done incorrectly.

    Well, it's heavily marbled, and you really don't want all that fat rendering out because you'll be left with Swiss cheese beef. In shabu-shabu, you get paper thin slices that you can cook until the fat goes transparent. I'm not entirely certain how much it should be cooked. The older I get, the less I want my meat cooked. As for the "burgers", I'm just as glad people are getting duped. Most people seem to like their burgers at 15-20% fat and even that most foodies want to see fall through a grill into open flames. That pains me. Opt for a leaner cut of meat, rather than render it out and burn it.
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