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Slash and burn should not be an economic strategy, and definitely not a presidential one.
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
paranoyd: Slash and burn should not be an economic strategy, and definitely not a presidential one.
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
It's pretty sad that he's the best candidate out of all the Republican nominees.
That's the best they can do.
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
It's pretty sad that he's the best candidate out of all the Republican nominees.
That's the best they can do.
reed solomon: It's pretty sad that he's the best candidate out of all the Republican nominees.
That's the best they can do.
I've always said there needs to be a strong and intelligent candidate from both parties who understand negotiation and has good solid ideas.
The left is pretty bad at it, but the right has just lost it completely.
That's the best they can do.
I've always said there needs to be a strong and intelligent candidate from both parties who understand negotiation and has good solid ideas.
The left is pretty bad at it, but the right has just lost it completely.
paranoyd: Slash and burn should not be an economic strategy, and definitely not a presidential one.
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
Only in phildo's mind.
Kosman calls it standard Romney operating procedure. To pump short-term earnings, he would essentially "starve a company," whacking not just employees but customer service and research-and-development funding — the very ingredients of long-term prosperity.
"I think they're one of the worst, at least during Romney's time," Kosman says. "They were very aggressive about dividends. They were very aggressive about borrowing the most money they could. He's very driven to be the best he could be, and that was to be as cutthroat as he could be. But in the process, he hurt a lot of companies and cost a lot of jobs, maybe tens of thousands of jobs."
Kosman says it's telling that Romney never cites companies he actually managed as evidence of his job-building skills.
"If Romney had some stories to tell, he'd use those stories," he says. "I think it's very interesting that he's not telling those stories, because I think they don't exist."
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Even a company Romney cites as one of his greatest achievements — Steel Dynamics, where he was a minority investor — was practically launched by corporate welfare. Indiana taxpayers gave the firm $77 million to open a plant. Residents of DeKalb County actually had their income taxes raised solely to help Romney and his friends.
Tad DeHaven calls it "theft and redistribution." He's no yammering Trotskyite; DeHaven is a former budget adviser to Republican U.S. senators Jeff Sessions of Alabama and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma. Yet he notes that firms like Bain often get governments to subsidize their raiding parties.
The feds take $100 billion a year from everyday taxpayers and send it straight to companies like Romney's, says DeHaven, who now works for the Cato Institute, a conservative think tank.
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
Only in phildo's mind.
Kosman calls it standard Romney operating procedure. To pump short-term earnings, he would essentially "starve a company," whacking not just employees but customer service and research-and-development funding — the very ingredients of long-term prosperity.
"I think they're one of the worst, at least during Romney's time," Kosman says. "They were very aggressive about dividends. They were very aggressive about borrowing the most money they could. He's very driven to be the best he could be, and that was to be as cutthroat as he could be. But in the process, he hurt a lot of companies and cost a lot of jobs, maybe tens of thousands of jobs."
Kosman says it's telling that Romney never cites companies he actually managed as evidence of his job-building skills.
"If Romney had some stories to tell, he'd use those stories," he says. "I think it's very interesting that he's not telling those stories, because I think they don't exist."
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Even a company Romney cites as one of his greatest achievements — Steel Dynamics, where he was a minority investor — was practically launched by corporate welfare. Indiana taxpayers gave the firm $77 million to open a plant. Residents of DeKalb County actually had their income taxes raised solely to help Romney and his friends.
Tad DeHaven calls it "theft and redistribution." He's no yammering Trotskyite; DeHaven is a former budget adviser to Republican U.S. senators Jeff Sessions of Alabama and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma. Yet he notes that firms like Bain often get governments to subsidize their raiding parties.
The feds take $100 billion a year from everyday taxpayers and send it straight to companies like Romney's, says DeHaven, who now works for the Cato Institute, a conservative think tank.
OK, this is the 1st time I've read and learned in detail exactly what BAIN was all about. Before I just knew that BAIN had some bad reputation for whatever.
This is so sad and destructive and just fucking BAD!
I hope more people will get schooled on what this guy did to make his fortune.
It's not fair to fling mud at Mittens. After all, he's a 1%'er and a job creator. Oh wait ... well at least he's a 1%'er.
paranoyd: Slash and burn should not be an economic strategy, and definitely not a presidential one.
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
Pretty much.
He operates under the same laws, which are legal, that you losers do as well.
paranoyd: I've always said there needs to be a strong and intelligent candidate from both parties who understand negotiation and has good solid ideas.
The left is pretty bad at it, but the right has just lost it completely.
Hold on there pal. The left, which has now cemented its incompetency, never negotiated dick. From 2009 to 2011 they railroaded legislation through congress and onto the Presidents desk. There was no negotiations or compromise... just "this is what change looks like" from the Democrats. Fuck them
Then you say nonsense of somehow claiming the right is worse? Please.
FACT: The Democrats had their chance and they blew it. Epically. There are now many retiring Dems like Barney Frank who are now agreeing with what I said in 2009. It was not the time to go full retard like they did with healthcare.
The Dems should have focused on the financial strength of the country and the economy... instead we got 19 months of nothing but ObamaCare. The quickly passed and ill thought and even worser executed STIMULUS was nothing more than a payoff to the unions who supported his election and who would support ObamaCare.
It all failed, and at a tremendous cost.
So take you partisan lies and go fuck yourself with them, because the Democrats suck and they completely made matters worse.
Obama has been a terrible president, and even he knows it. He can't be so dumb as to convince himself he did a good job. He does not know how to attract good people to work under him him. He is insecure, he wants to be the smartest man in the room at all times, so he hires less intelligent people who are ideologues first and competency is second.
Compared to Obama, Mitt Romney is far superior. Obama is not even qualified to work for Romney in the private sector. Never before have we had a candidate that has such a great resume and a track record of problem solving and success in so many diverse fields. Public and Private... doen.
While Obama was an empty suit, Romeny brings serious credentials to the Oval office. On paper they are incomparable. Even Obama's own presidency is a bad thing to put on his resume. He has been a failure.
All the left does no is attack and write these stupid op ed about how Romney is a bad person and an evil capitalist. LOL
And this is "The best candidate in EVER!"?
Pretty much.
He operates under the same laws, which are legal, that you losers do as well.
paranoyd: I've always said there needs to be a strong and intelligent candidate from both parties who understand negotiation and has good solid ideas.
The left is pretty bad at it, but the right has just lost it completely.
Hold on there pal. The left, which has now cemented its incompetency, never negotiated dick. From 2009 to 2011 they railroaded legislation through congress and onto the Presidents desk. There was no negotiations or compromise... just "this is what change looks like" from the Democrats. Fuck them
Then you say nonsense of somehow claiming the right is worse? Please.
FACT: The Democrats had their chance and they blew it. Epically. There are now many retiring Dems like Barney Frank who are now agreeing with what I said in 2009. It was not the time to go full retard like they did with healthcare.
The Dems should have focused on the financial strength of the country and the economy... instead we got 19 months of nothing but ObamaCare. The quickly passed and ill thought and even worser executed STIMULUS was nothing more than a payoff to the unions who supported his election and who would support ObamaCare.
It all failed, and at a tremendous cost.
So take you partisan lies and go fuck yourself with them, because the Democrats suck and they completely made matters worse.
Obama has been a terrible president, and even he knows it. He can't be so dumb as to convince himself he did a good job. He does not know how to attract good people to work under him him. He is insecure, he wants to be the smartest man in the room at all times, so he hires less intelligent people who are ideologues first and competency is second.
Compared to Obama, Mitt Romney is far superior. Obama is not even qualified to work for Romney in the private sector. Never before have we had a candidate that has such a great resume and a track record of problem solving and success in so many diverse fields. Public and Private... doen.
While Obama was an empty suit, Romeny brings serious credentials to the Oval office. On paper they are incomparable. Even Obama's own presidency is a bad thing to put on his resume. He has been a failure.
All the left does no is attack and write these stupid op ed about how Romney is a bad person and an evil capitalist. LOL
swingingjohnson: OK, this is the 1st time I've read and learned in detail exactly what BAIN was all about. Before I just knew that BAIN had some bad reputation for whatever.
This is so sad and destructive and just fucking BAD!
I hope more people will get schooled on what this guy did to make his fortune.
Drink moar Kool Aid and support the loser SJ... support failure, support bad ideas, support Biden, support crony capitalistic failure like Solyndra. Support a terrible energy policy. Support an administration who has lost control of the reins of government. They gambled and they lost, we are worse off than we were 4 years ago and a it cost us a tremendous amount of money to do it.
Keep supporting failure.
This is so sad and destructive and just fucking BAD!
I hope more people will get schooled on what this guy did to make his fortune.
Drink moar Kool Aid and support the loser SJ... support failure, support bad ideas, support Biden, support crony capitalistic failure like Solyndra. Support a terrible energy policy. Support an administration who has lost control of the reins of government. They gambled and they lost, we are worse off than we were 4 years ago and a it cost us a tremendous amount of money to do it.
Keep supporting failure.
It amazes me that there are people who think this is not only acceptable behavior but actually desirable.
I wish there was an accurate list of how many tens of thousands of people lost their jobs and the effect that had on their families and all the collateral damage... and then compare that list to any real job Romney & Bain Capital ever created.
Mitt Romney alone, personally, must have set fire to multi-billions of dollars that were in this economy to create his own personal 1/4 billion fortune.
Mitt Romney alone, personally, must have set fire to multi-billions of dollars that were in this economy to create his own personal 1/4 billion fortune.
the sonic dildo: Drink moar Kool Aid and support the loser SJ... support failure, support bad ideas, support Biden, support crony capitalistic failure like Solyndra. Support a terrible energy policy. Support an administration who has lost control of the reins of government. They gambled and they lost, we are worse off than we were 4 years ago and a it cost us a tremendous amount of money to do it.
Keep supporting failure.
Why do you constantly bring up VP Biden in your posts as if a vice president is relevant to anything? His job is going to funerals and grand openings of car dealerships and Kmarts.
My 2 gold fish seem to have better debating skills than you. Well... maybe not Itchy. She's kinda slow. Scratchy seems to be the smarter gold fish that could take you down in a debate.
Keep supporting failure.
Why do you constantly bring up VP Biden in your posts as if a vice president is relevant to anything? His job is going to funerals and grand openings of car dealerships and Kmarts.
My 2 gold fish seem to have better debating skills than you. Well... maybe not Itchy. She's kinda slow. Scratchy seems to be the smarter gold fish that could take you down in a debate.
What is the future of american capitalism when the primary method of acquiring wealth is the calculated destruction american productivity?
swingingjohnson: Why do you constantly bring up VP Biden in your posts as if a vice president is relevant to anything? His job is going to funerals and grand openings of car dealerships and Kmarts.
My 2 gold fish seem to have better debating skills than you. Well... maybe not Itchy. She's kinda slow. Scratchy seems to be the smarter gold fish that could take you down in a debate.
Aw. Itchy's not slow, she's probably just misunderstood.
My 2 gold fish seem to have better debating skills than you. Well... maybe not Itchy. She's kinda slow. Scratchy seems to be the smarter gold fish that could take you down in a debate.
Aw. Itchy's not slow, she's probably just misunderstood.
the sonic dildo: Drink moar Kool Aid and support the loser SJ... support failure, support bad ideas, support Biden, support crony capitalistic failure like Solyndra. Support a terrible energy policy. Support an administration who has lost control of the reins of government. They gambled and they lost, we are worse off than we were 4 years ago and a it cost us a tremendous amount of money to do it.
Keep supporting failure.
what is it that you expect to change so dramatically if Romney wins?
Keep supporting failure.
what is it that you expect to change so dramatically if Romney wins?
burntman: what is it that you expect to change so dramatically if Romney wins?
For one thing, the right can finally pass a health care bill that they so despise.
For one thing, the right can finally pass a health care bill that they so despise.
zolividor: What is the future of american capitalism when the primary method of acquiring wealth is the calculated destruction american productivity?
There's always other countries they can exploit.
There's always other countries they can exploit.
eddyatwork: There's always other countries they can exploit.
yeah, but that's also growing old fast.
yeah, but that's also growing old fast.
harrisonfire: Aw. Itchy's not slow, she's probably just misunderstood.
She does have a lot more credibility than dildo.
She does have a lot more credibility than dildo.
A rather pointless article.
If you were going to vote for him, this won't change your mind. Most likely because you don't want to know the truth and won't read it.
If you weren't going to vote for him, this sure as fuck won't change your mind.
If you were going to vote for him, this won't change your mind. Most likely because you don't want to know the truth and won't read it.
If you weren't going to vote for him, this sure as fuck won't change your mind.
paranoyd: Slash and burn should not be an economic strategy, and definitely not a presidential one.
Maybe that's just the type of president we deserve at this point, a full-blown unapologetic economic rapist.
Maybe that's just the type of president we deserve at this point, a full-blown unapologetic economic rapist.
burntman: what is it that you expect to change so dramatically if Romney wins?
Don't you know? You can't ask Phildo any question that he can't answer with a copy/paste.
Don't you know? You can't ask Phildo any question that he can't answer with a copy/paste.
swingingjohnson: Don't you know? You can't ask Phildo any question that he can't answer with a copy/paste.
Phil might do lots of things but he doesn't really copy/paste. He does argue his point.
Phil might do lots of things but he doesn't really copy/paste. He does argue his point.
swingingjohnson: Why do you constantly bring up VP Biden in your posts as if a vice president is relevant to anything?
Oh the VP is no big deal?
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
Oh the VP is no big deal?
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
burntman: Phil might do lots of things but he doesn't really copy/paste. He does argue his point.
Bullshit. It's always the same BS talking points word for word no matter what the subject. He types in a few lines so it looks unique.
Bullshit. It's always the same BS talking points word for word no matter what the subject. He types in a few lines so it looks unique.
the sonic dildo: Oh the VP is no big deal?
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
Because she spread blatant lies and caused much division in the USA that ignorant idiot morans still believe to this day.
A candidate VP is the mouthpiece of a presidential candidate. Once the presidential office is won the VP's job is to GTFO & STFU.
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
Because she spread blatant lies and caused much division in the USA that ignorant idiot morans still believe to this day.
A candidate VP is the mouthpiece of a presidential candidate. Once the presidential office is won the VP's job is to GTFO & STFU.
the sonic dildo: Oh the VP is no big deal?
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
How about you do something different and stick to the subject of a fucking thread?
Do you have that ability?
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
How about you do something different and stick to the subject of a fucking thread?
Do you have that ability?
Oh the VP is no big deal?
Hey Phildo, do you know what this particular article is actually about?
What's it about?
Hey Phildo, do you know what this particular article is actually about?
What's it about?
swingingjohnson: Bullshit. It's always the same BS talking points word for word no matter what the subject. He types in a few lines so it looks unique.
look at the post above yours. He is addressing your point directly. The reason everything phil says sounds like the conservative talking points is mainly because it's in response to what you are submitting, which is pretty much the stock standard 'lib' talking points. You can hardly accuse him of unoriginal responses when your arguments are also just rehashings along party lines.
look at the post above yours. He is addressing your point directly. The reason everything phil says sounds like the conservative talking points is mainly because it's in response to what you are submitting, which is pretty much the stock standard 'lib' talking points. You can hardly accuse him of unoriginal responses when your arguments are also just rehashings along party lines.
the sonic dildo: Oh the VP is no big deal?
Hey Phildo, do you know what this particular article is actually about?
What's it about?
Hey Phildo, do you know what this particular article is actually about?
What's it about?
burntman: look at the post above yours. He is addressing your point directly. The reason everything phil says sounds like the conservative talking points is mainly because it's in response to what you are submitting, which is pretty much the stock standard 'lib' talking points. You can hardly accuse him of unoriginal responses when your arguments are also just rehashings along party lines.
Which post of mine?
Which post of mine?
swingingjohnson: Bullshit. It's always the same BS talking points word for word no matter what the subject. He types in a few lines so it looks unique.
The truth is consistent. It does not change.
I don't copy paste, except when I copy paste FDR's own words in a Public Sector Union thread. That always gets good results.
The truth is consistent. It does not change.
I don't copy paste, except when I copy paste FDR's own words in a Public Sector Union thread. That always gets good results.
burntman: look at the post above yours. He is addressing your point directly.
Here's how it went just now:
swingingjohnson: OK, this is the 1st time I've read and learned in detail exactly what BAIN was all about. Before I just knew that BAIN had some bad reputation for whatever.
This is so sad and destructive and just fucking BAD!
I hope more people will get schooled on what this guy did to make his fortune.
the sonic dildo: Drink moar Kool Aid and support the loser SJ... support failure, support bad ideas, support Biden, support crony capitalistic failure like Solyndra. Support a terrible energy policy. Support an administration who has lost control of the reins of government. They gambled and they lost, we are worse off than we were 4 years ago and a it cost us a tremendous amount of money to do it.
Keep supporting failure.
So tell me burntman... WHAT IN THE FUCK does Phildo's post have to do with this fucking article or my fucking post?!!!
FUCK!
swingingjohnson: Hey Phildo, do you know what this particular article is actually about?
What's it about?
It is about Romney and just how bad he is and all the babies he eats and has eaten.
The left is all about bashing Romney now. The can't sell the incumbent on his own record, so they have to make an actual qualified candidate, who they fear, look bad.
What's it about?
It is about Romney and just how bad he is and all the babies he eats and has eaten.
The left is all about bashing Romney now. The can't sell the incumbent on his own record, so they have to make an actual qualified candidate, who they fear, look bad.
the sonic dildo:
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Because she doesn't know when to STFU?
You don't see the Cheney brood chasing around reality show producers.
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
Because she doesn't know when to STFU?
You don't see the Cheney brood chasing around reality show producers.
the sonic dildo: It is about Romney and just how bad he is and all the babies he eats and has eaten.
The left is all about bashing Romney now. The can't sell the incumbent on his own record, so they have to make an actual qualified candidate, who they fear, look bad.
No, it's not.
The article is about the specifics of how Bain Capitol conducted business.
The left is all about bashing Romney now. The can't sell the incumbent on his own record, so they have to make an actual qualified candidate, who they fear, look bad.
No, it's not.
The article is about the specifics of how Bain Capitol conducted business.
SJ... here is the deal.
Obama is tanking, early. His record sucks. Their are millions who have invested in him, like yourself. Rather than accept and admit they made a huge mistake, they are going to double down and convince themselves that Obama needs more time and that his opponent is terrible.
The Democrats strategy is very simple.
Distort
Distract
Divide
It is pretty sad.
Obama is tanking, early. His record sucks. Their are millions who have invested in him, like yourself. Rather than accept and admit they made a huge mistake, they are going to double down and convince themselves that Obama needs more time and that his opponent is terrible.
The Democrats strategy is very simple.
Distort
Distract
Divide
It is pretty sad.
swingingjohnson: So tell me burntman... WHAT IN THE FUCK does Phildo's post have to do with this fucking article or my fucking post?!!!
That's just phil being phil but that was not copy pasta. He will argue against any thing he percieves as being 'lib', and that's what he does. but it's not copy pasta, his arguments are pretty original, or at least they're as original as one can get while screaming "LIBS LIBS LIBS"
That's just phil being phil but that was not copy pasta. He will argue against any thing he percieves as being 'lib', and that's what he does. but it's not copy pasta, his arguments are pretty original, or at least they're as original as one can get while screaming "LIBS LIBS LIBS"
the sonic dildo: It is about Romney and just how bad he is and all the babies he eats and has eaten.
The left is all about bashing Romney now. The can't sell the incumbent on his own record, so they have to make an actual qualified candidate, who they fear, look bad.
Called it!
vliam: If you were going to vote for him, this won't change your mind. Most likely because you don't want to know the truth and won't read it.
The left is all about bashing Romney now. The can't sell the incumbent on his own record, so they have to make an actual qualified candidate, who they fear, look bad.
Called it!
vliam: If you were going to vote for him, this won't change your mind. Most likely because you don't want to know the truth and won't read it.
burntman: what is it that you expect to change so dramatically if Romney wins?
Heh, I work with government civilians on a daily basis.
You know what changes in a typical federal office when a president changes?
The picture on the wall in the foyer.
Heh, I work with government civilians on a daily basis.
You know what changes in a typical federal office when a president changes?
The picture on the wall in the foyer.
vliam: Because she doesn't know when to STFU?
You don't see the Cheney brood chasing around reality show producers.
Huh? Listen I hate her too, however, the double standard they left exhibits when they give the human gaffe machine, Biden, a pass. While they look over Palin with a microscope is insane.
When you complain about Biden they say VP don't matter, then they go apeshit over the other side's VP.
Just another exposure of lefty lib hypocrisy.
You don't see the Cheney brood chasing around reality show producers.
Huh? Listen I hate her too, however, the double standard they left exhibits when they give the human gaffe machine, Biden, a pass. While they look over Palin with a microscope is insane.
When you complain about Biden they say VP don't matter, then they go apeshit over the other side's VP.
Just another exposure of lefty lib hypocrisy.
the sonic dildo: Obama is tanking, early. His record sucks.
Yep. Sucks balls.
It doesn't change the fact that you are doing exactly what you accuse other of.
The can't sell their candidate on his own record, so they have to make the incumbent, who they fear, look bad.
FTFY
Hypocrite.
Yep. Sucks balls.
It doesn't change the fact that you are doing exactly what you accuse other of.
The can't sell their candidate on his own record, so they have to make the incumbent, who they fear, look bad.
FTFY
Hypocrite.
muninsfire: Heh, I work with government civilians on a daily basis.
You know what changes in a typical federal office when a president changes?
The picture on the wall in the foyer.
I think you will see their expense budgets cut as well now.
You know what changes in a typical federal office when a president changes?
The picture on the wall in the foyer.
I think you will see their expense budgets cut as well now.
vliam: Yep. Sucks balls.
It doesn't change the fact that you are doing exactly what you accuse other of.
The can't sell their candidate on his own record, so they have to make the incumbent, who they fear, look bad.
FTFY
Hypocrite.
Huh? No way. Obama looks bad all on his own. He has a record now, and it is a bad one. And you know it.
It is not hypocrisy pointing out the truth.
Why do you guys on the left not understand how words work?
It doesn't change the fact that you are doing exactly what you accuse other of.
The can't sell their candidate on his own record, so they have to make the incumbent, who they fear, look bad.
FTFY
Hypocrite.
Huh? No way. Obama looks bad all on his own. He has a record now, and it is a bad one. And you know it.
It is not hypocrisy pointing out the truth.
Why do you guys on the left not understand how words work?
the sonic dildo: While they look over Palin with a microscope is insane.
Because she's always on the fucking TV. I don't know where the fuck Biden is or what he is doing. I do know that if I flip to FoxNews, I'll probably find Palin talking about the GOP convention.
Because she's always on the fucking TV. I don't know where the fuck Biden is or what he is doing. I do know that if I flip to FoxNews, I'll probably find Palin talking about the GOP convention.
the sonic dildo: I think you will see their expense budgets cut as well now.
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Yeah...no.
Those that 'work the system' to get themselves perks...will work the system to get themselves perks. Even if you think Romney is like John McClane, Dirty Harry, and a chartered accountant rolled into one, there's very little he can actually do to change the operation of the Bureaucracy.
About the only realistic change I see happening is a few extra rules added to the wad that already govern every aspect of a federal agency's operation.
Try working in a government office sometime for a month or so, and keep your eyes open. It's an education.
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Yeah...no.
Those that 'work the system' to get themselves perks...will work the system to get themselves perks. Even if you think Romney is like John McClane, Dirty Harry, and a chartered accountant rolled into one, there's very little he can actually do to change the operation of the Bureaucracy.
About the only realistic change I see happening is a few extra rules added to the wad that already govern every aspect of a federal agency's operation.
Try working in a government office sometime for a month or so, and keep your eyes open. It's an education.
the sonic dildo: Why do you guys on the left not understand how words work?
You can't sell your candidate on his record. Stop.
So you direct the argument to Obama. Stop.
Obama is not the subject of this article. Stop.
You can't sell your candidate on his record. Stop.
So you direct the argument to Obama. Stop.
Obama is not the subject of this article. Stop.
vliam: Because she's always on the fucking TV. I don't know where the fuck Biden is or what he is doing. I do know that if I flip to FoxNews, I'll probably find Palin talking about the GOP convention.
Biden is out there lying his ass off and making a fool of himself in front of people who were given a free lunch to listen to him.
Biden is out there lying his ass off and making a fool of himself in front of people who were given a free lunch to listen to him.
vliam: You can't sell your candidate on his record. Stop.
So you direct the argument to Obama. Stop.
Obama is not the subject of this article. Stop.
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So you direct the argument to Obama. Stop.
Obama is not the subject of this article. Stop.
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vliam: You can't sell your candidate on his record. Stop.
So you direct the argument to Obama. Stop.
Obama is not the subject of this article. Stop.
Obama is the subject of all things in an election year and especially when his opponent is discussed.
They are inseparable.
So you direct the argument to Obama. Stop.
Obama is not the subject of this article. Stop.
Obama is the subject of all things in an election year and especially when his opponent is discussed.
They are inseparable.
the sonic dildo: Biden is out there lying his ass off and making a fool of himself in front of people who were given a free lunch to listen to him.
You keep up with him far better than most.
You keep up with him far better than most.
the sonic dildo: Obama is the subject of all things in an election year
You can't sell you candidate on his record.
You can't sell you candidate on his record.
Ooooooooh Romney was part of Bain Capital and Bain Capital was involved in Capaitalism.... ooooooh
Capitalism is hard and mean, capitalism works on results. Capitalism is not for the weak.
Capitalism is hard and mean, capitalism works on results. Capitalism is not for the weak.
vliam: You can't sell you candidate on his record.
Who Romeny? LOL
Public, private whatever... you sure can. That is why the Obama people wanted to face anybody but Romney.
Who Romeny? LOL
Public, private whatever... you sure can. That is why the Obama people wanted to face anybody but Romney.
burntman: That's just phil being phil but that was not copy pasta. He will argue against any thing he percieves as being 'lib', and that's what he does. but it's not copy pasta, his arguments are pretty original, or at least they're as original as one can get while screaming "LIBS LIBS LIBS"
Did you just say Phildo's arguments are "pretty original"?
They were tired when Gahbrone spouted them, they were tired when MIchaelMoron spouted them, and they're tired now.
The article is about Bain Capital, and Phildo is talking about Obama, like he does in eEVERY POLITICS THREAD whether or not the headline is about Obama.
Did you just say Phildo's arguments are "pretty original"?
They were tired when Gahbrone spouted them, they were tired when MIchaelMoron spouted them, and they're tired now.
The article is about Bain Capital, and Phildo is talking about Obama, like he does in eEVERY POLITICS THREAD whether or not the headline is about Obama.
the sonic dildo: Who Romeny? LOL
Public, private whatever... you sure can.
Then why do you always redirect the discussion to Obama.
Let's hear why Romney is a good candidate despite his tarnished record detailed in the article.
Public, private whatever... you sure can.
Then why do you always redirect the discussion to Obama.
Let's hear why Romney is a good candidate despite his tarnished record detailed in the article.
wsucanuck: The article is about Bain Capital, and Phildo is talking about Obama, like he does in eEVERY POLITICS THREAD whether or not the headline is about Obama.
And bain capital is about romney. Almost all political threads devolve along US partisan lines. That's just the way it's always been.
And bain capital is about romney. Almost all political threads devolve along US partisan lines. That's just the way it's always been.
reed solomon: It's pretty sad that he's the best candidate out of all the Republican nominees.
That's the best they can do.
He's really not. He's just what they chose.
They ignored Gary Johnson.
That's the best they can do.
He's really not. He's just what they chose.
They ignored Gary Johnson.
swingingjohnson:
I hope more people will get schooled on what this guy did to make his fortune.
Mitt Romney? What he did to earn his fortune was simple: he was born. George Romney had PLENTY of cash.
I hope more people will get schooled on what this guy did to make his fortune.
Mitt Romney? What he did to earn his fortune was simple: he was born. George Romney had PLENTY of cash.
vliam: Then why do you always redirect the discussion to Obama.
Let's hear why Romney is a good candidate despite his tarnished record detailed in the article.
What tarnished record? Capitalism is brutal.
Let's hear why Romney is a good candidate despite his tarnished record detailed in the article.
What tarnished record? Capitalism is brutal.
jimmythehutt: Mitt Romney? What he did to earn his fortune was simple: he was born. George Romney had PLENTY of cash.
It is well established that Mitt Romney gave away his inheritance from his father.
He made his own fortune.
Unlike superstar silver spoon Democrat heroes like FDR and JFK.
It is well established that Mitt Romney gave away his inheritance from his father.
He made his own fortune.
Unlike superstar silver spoon Democrat heroes like FDR and JFK.
jimmythehutt: He's really not. He's just what they chose.
They ignored Gary Johnson.
I like Gary Johnston. A lot.
They ignored Gary Johnson.
I like Gary Johnston. A lot.
vliam: A rather pointless article.
If you were going to vote for him, this won't change your mind. Most likely because you don't want to know the truth andwon't can't read it.
If you were going to vote for him, this won't change your mind. Most likely because you don't want to know the truth and
the sonic dildo: Oh the VP is no big deal?
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
McCain's father made it to 70.
McCain's father's father made it to 61.
McCain would have been roughly 72½ on Inauguration Day.
My genealogical research says you'll probably live about as long as your father. I expected he'd probably already be dead now, based on longevity in his father's side.
Ergo, Palin's adequacy for the task of POTUS was of paramount consideration.
the sonic dildo: Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
(sometimes you don't have to even say anything)
Then why the big deal of Sarah Palin then? You'd of thought she was running for POTUS.
McCain's father made it to 70.
McCain's father's father made it to 61.
McCain would have been roughly 72½ on Inauguration Day.
My genealogical research says you'll probably live about as long as your father. I expected he'd probably already be dead now, based on longevity in his father's side.
Ergo, Palin's adequacy for the task of POTUS was of paramount consideration.
the sonic dildo: Also, picking your running mate is actually your first job, even though it happens before you are elected. Picking a complete imbecile like Joe Biden has really proven to be a pattern of the kind of administration he was capable of producing.
(sometimes you don't have to even say anything)
the sonic dildo: What tarnished record? Capitalism is brutal.
phil can't explain WHY romney is GOOD... cuz he sucks (romney that is)
he sucked in MA as governor and he'd suck as prez
phil can't explain WHY romney is GOOD... cuz he sucks (romney that is)
he sucked in MA as governor and he'd suck as prez
vliam:
That is not deflection. It is perspective. Big difference.
Before you try and play the silver spoon card, remember who else was a real silver spooner whom the Democrats have no problem with. Algore is a huge silver spooner as well.
See, it is perspective, not deflection.
That is not deflection. It is perspective. Big difference.
Before you try and play the silver spoon card, remember who else was a real silver spooner whom the Democrats have no problem with. Algore is a huge silver spooner as well.
See, it is perspective, not deflection.
burntman: And bain capital is about romney. Almost all political threads devolve along US partisan lines. That's just the way it's always been.
you said he brings up original arguments, which couldn't be further from the truth. Phildo repeats the same tired phrases over and over again. Its not original. Its not gahbronespam, but only because he rewords the SAME argument in each post.
you said he brings up original arguments, which couldn't be further from the truth. Phildo repeats the same tired phrases over and over again. Its not original. Its not gahbronespam, but only because he rewords the SAME argument in each post.
baron muchhumpin: phil can't explain WHY romney is GOOD... cuz he sucks (romney that is)
he sucked in MA as governor and he'd suck as prez
dude... you are
1. Lying to yourself and us
2. an unpaid memeber of the Obama Reelection Campaign
3. a fool
4. not an independent in any way.
he sucked in MA as governor and he'd suck as prez
dude... you are
1. Lying to yourself and us
2. an unpaid memeber of the Obama Reelection Campaign
3. a fool
4. not an independent in any way.
wsucanuck: you said he brings up original arguments, which couldn't be further from the truth. Phildo repeats the same tired phrases over and over again. Its not original. Its not gahbronespam, but only because he rewords the SAME argument in each post.
Which, in and of itself, is somewhat refreshing. Gahbronespam gets very tired very quickly; at least philherp has the courtesy to change words around a little bit.
Which, in and of itself, is somewhat refreshing. Gahbronespam gets very tired very quickly; at least philherp has the courtesy to change words around a little bit.
wsucanuck: you said he brings up original arguments, which couldn't be further from the truth. Phildo repeats the same tired phrases over and over again. Its not original. Its not gahbronespam, but only because he rewords the SAME argument in each post.
It is called "consistency". Yes, I know it is boring. But you can only tell the truth one way. But I use my own words to do it. If you really pay attention I don't know how you can support Obama.
Are you just lying to yourself as well?
It is called "consistency". Yes, I know it is boring. But you can only tell the truth one way. But I use my own words to do it. If you really pay attention I don't know how you can support Obama.
Are you just lying to yourself as well?
the sonic dildo: dude... you are
1. Lying to yourself and us
2. an unpaid memeber of the Obama Reelection Campaign
3. a fool
4. not an independent in any way.
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Called it. See phil, you CANT explain why romney is any good so you attack me
I'm just keeping things in PERSPECTIVE for you
even you can understand that, right?
1. Lying to yourself and us
2. an unpaid memeber of the Obama Reelection Campaign
3. a fool
4. not an independent in any way.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Called it. See phil, you CANT explain why romney is any good so you attack me
I'm just keeping things in PERSPECTIVE for you
even you can understand that, right?
If Phildo stayed on topic like he did for his first post and talk about how "Thats just how capitalism works", there'd be no complaints. Instead he brought up Biden and Solyndra, which have fuck-all to do with Bain Capital.
wsucanuck: you said he brings up original arguments, which couldn't be further from the truth. Phildo repeats the same tired phrases over and over again. Its not original. Its not gahbronespam, but only because he rewords the SAME argument in each post.
but the points he is arguing against also remain constant, of course his arguments are going to stay more or less the same, because he is arguing against the same things.
but the points he is arguing against also remain constant, of course his arguments are going to stay more or less the same, because he is arguing against the same things.
the sonic dildo: It is called "consistency". Yes, I know it is boring. But you can only tell the truth one way. But I use my own words to do it. If you really pay attention I don't know how you can support Obama.
Are you just lying to yourself as well?
I trust Obama (the out and out pro gas tax increase guy) over Romney (the out and out 'well, how do you guys want me to feel about an issue this week?' guy).
Thats my BIGGEST reason for not voting for Romney. I can trust what Obama says 90% of the time, compared to 5% for Romney.
Are you just lying to yourself as well?
I trust Obama (the out and out pro gas tax increase guy) over Romney (the out and out 'well, how do you guys want me to feel about an issue this week?' guy).
Thats my BIGGEST reason for not voting for Romney. I can trust what Obama says 90% of the time, compared to 5% for Romney.
quinblake:
And they saw that praise was reserved henceforth for those who devised means of getting paid enormously for committing crimes against which no laws had been passed.
Oh. That's ridiculous.
the sonic dildo: Pretty much.
He operates under the same laws, which are legal, that you losers do as well.
Oh.
And they saw that praise was reserved henceforth for those who devised means of getting paid enormously for committing crimes against which no laws had been passed.
Oh. That's ridiculous.
the sonic dildo: Pretty much.
He operates under the same laws, which are legal, that you losers do as well.
Oh.
burntman: but the points he is arguing against also remain constant, of course his arguments are going to stay more or less the same, because he is arguing against the same things.
We're not talking consistency, you brought up originality. Are you conceding that Phildo is not original?
We're not talking consistency, you brought up originality. Are you conceding that Phildo is not original?
wsucanuck: If Phildo stayed on topic like he did for his first post and talk about how "Thats just how capitalism works", there'd be no complaints. Instead he brought up Biden and Solyndra, which have fuck-all to do with Bain Capital.
Bain capital is only notable because of it's affiliation with mitt romney ergo this is a political thread, ergo it becomes 'libs vs cons' or whatever the appropriate terms are.
Bain capital is only notable because of it's affiliation with mitt romney ergo this is a political thread, ergo it becomes 'libs vs cons' or whatever the appropriate terms are.
On topic, Bain Capital operated legally and did what they were supposed to do. Make Money.
Romney knows how to make money. I trust him to do that.
The purpose of a country is not to make money. The United States of America is not a for-profit corporation, and if Romney runs America like Bain Capital operates, we are fucked because the rich will get richer and the poor will enjoy taking a bigger dick in the ass every day.
Romney knows how to make money. I trust him to do that.
The purpose of a country is not to make money. The United States of America is not a for-profit corporation, and if Romney runs America like Bain Capital operates, we are fucked because the rich will get richer and the poor will enjoy taking a bigger dick in the ass every day.
burntman: Bain capital is only notable because of it's affiliation with mitt romney ergo this is a political thread, ergo it becomes 'libs vs cons' or whatever the appropriate terms are.
actually no. Just because this is a 'political' thread does not make all political topics valid. There is a thread topic, and that topic is romney
if phil wants to have a thread that is actually about obama, solyndra, biden etc, he can submit one
actually no. Just because this is a 'political' thread does not make all political topics valid. There is a thread topic, and that topic is romney
if phil wants to have a thread that is actually about obama, solyndra, biden etc, he can submit one
It is called "consistency". Yes, I know it is boring. But you can only tell the truth one way. But I use my own words to do it. If you really pay attention I don't know how you can support Obama.
There you have it.
Keeping on the approved talking points is "consistency", and you can't have "consistency" without starting with "con"
wsucanuck: We're not talking consistency, you brought up originality. Are you conceding that Phildo is not original?
he is original. He argues his point in original terms.
he is original. He argues his point in original terms.
baron muchhumpin: actually no. Just because this is a 'political' thread does not make all political topics valid. There is a thread topic, and that topic is romney
if phil wants to have a thread that is actually about obama, solyndra, biden etc, he can submit one
Wrong.
You can't have a Romney thread in an election year where he is the candidate and disallow comparisons to his opponent.
These men could not be much more opposite.
if phil wants to have a thread that is actually about obama, solyndra, biden etc, he can submit one
Wrong.
You can't have a Romney thread in an election year where he is the candidate and disallow comparisons to his opponent.
These men could not be much more opposite.
Romney's (primary season) position is that he will cut social services (Expenses) more than he will cut revenues (taxes), all the while increasing military spending (expenses) which will somehow balance the budget.
Not sure how that makes him the "best candidate ever".
Not sure how that makes him the "best candidate ever".
burntman: he is original. He argues his point in original terms.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
the sonic dildo: Wrong.
You can't have a Romney thread in an election year where he is the candidate and disallow comparisons to his opponent.
These men could not be much more opposite.
yawn.. i see you're skipping ahead in the thread and avoiding having to actually post some facts
got it
glad to see you still offer nothing
You can't have a Romney thread in an election year where he is the candidate and disallow comparisons to his opponent.
These men could not be much more opposite.
yawn.. i see you're skipping ahead in the thread and avoiding having to actually post some facts
got it
glad to see you still offer nothing
baron muchhumpin: actually no. Just because this is a 'political' thread does not make all political topics valid. There is a thread topic, and that topic is romney
if phil wants to have a thread that is actually about obama, solyndra, biden etc, he can submit one
If the topic is Romney, then Obama as the sitting president is most certainly a valid subject to bring up.
if phil wants to have a thread that is actually about obama, solyndra, biden etc, he can submit one
If the topic is Romney, then Obama as the sitting president is most certainly a valid subject to bring up.
vliam: Oh. That's ridiculous.
Oh.
It's amazing. Apparently Vonnegut wrote that in 1965. It's cool how some people can see through all the bullshit and write it so beautifully.
Oh.
It's amazing. Apparently Vonnegut wrote that in 1965. It's cool how some people can see through all the bullshit and write it so beautifully.
burntman: If the topic is Romney, then Obama as the sitting president is most certainly a valid subject to bring up.
The topic is "The Way Bain Capital Operated".
The topic is "The Way Bain Capital Operated".
finnley wren: You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
What? Are you saying phil doesn't address the points posted? If it's the same points being posted, well then his arguments against them will be much the same.
What? Are you saying phil doesn't address the points posted? If it's the same points being posted, well then his arguments against them will be much the same.
burntman: What? Are you saying phil doesn't address the points posted? If it's the same points being posted, well then his arguments against them will be much the same.
We're being trolled, folks.
We're being trolled, folks.
the sonic dildo: These men could not be much more opposite.
For the evangelical/fundamentalists, there is one factor both Obama AND Romney share.
Neither are Christians.
For the evangelical/fundamentalists, there is one factor both Obama AND Romney share.
Neither are Christians.
burntman: If the topic is Romney, then Obama as the sitting president is most certainly a valid subject to bring up.
did phil send you a check or something? free cleaning?
trying to drive this thread into the ditch, much like the republicans drove our economy into, by sending us off in non-thread topics is just phil's deflection defense, which he does in EVERY thread to keep people from actually talking about how much of a shitbag romney is
did phil send you a check or something? free cleaning?
trying to drive this thread into the ditch, much like the republicans drove our economy into, by sending us off in non-thread topics is just phil's deflection defense, which he does in EVERY thread to keep people from actually talking about how much of a shitbag romney is
baron muchhumpin: did phil send you a check or something? free cleaning?
trying to drive this thread into the ditch, much like the republicans drove our economy into, by sending us off in non-thread topics is just phil's deflection defense, which he does in EVERY thread to keep people from actually talking about how much of a shitbag romney is
And Romney is a huge shitbag, proving over the last 20 years that he's nothing more than a windsock looking to achieve personal goals rather than help the greater good.
trying to drive this thread into the ditch, much like the republicans drove our economy into, by sending us off in non-thread topics is just phil's deflection defense, which he does in EVERY thread to keep people from actually talking about how much of a shitbag romney is
And Romney is a huge shitbag, proving over the last 20 years that he's nothing more than a windsock looking to achieve personal goals rather than help the greater good.
wsucanuck: On topic, Bain Capital operated legally and did what they were supposed to do. Make Money.
THIS
wsucanuck: The purpose of a country is not to make money. The United States of America is not a for-profit corporation.
Fiscal responsibility is very important and what we have now is complete irresponsibility under the Democrats.
wsucanuck: because the rich will get richer and the poor will enjoy taking a bigger dick in the ass every day.
Oh please. The poor get far more than they deserve and are doing better than they would in ay other country. We have the richest poor on Earth.
THIS
wsucanuck: The purpose of a country is not to make money. The United States of America is not a for-profit corporation.
Fiscal responsibility is very important and what we have now is complete irresponsibility under the Democrats.
wsucanuck: because the rich will get richer and the poor will enjoy taking a bigger dick in the ass every day.
Oh please. The poor get far more than they deserve and are doing better than they would in ay other country. We have the richest poor on Earth.
wsucanuck: And Romney is a huge s**tbag, proving over the last 20 years that he's nothing more than a windsock looking to achieve personal goals rather than help the greater good.
Everything he's ever done has been as a stepping stone to something else. One can only wonder what higher office he aspires to if he wins the presidency.
Everything he's ever done has been as a stepping stone to something else. One can only wonder what higher office he aspires to if he wins the presidency.
the sonic dildo: Wrong.
You can't have a Romney thread in an election year where he is the candidate and disallow comparisons to his opponent.
These men could not be much more opposite.
Um, technically his opponent is still Gingrich, right? Until he's actually the nominee his chief rivals are still in his own party.
With that said, can you please tell the class why Romney is the better choice? Without mentioning any Democrats.
You can't have a Romney thread in an election year where he is the candidate and disallow comparisons to his opponent.
These men could not be much more opposite.
Um, technically his opponent is still Gingrich, right? Until he's actually the nominee his chief rivals are still in his own party.
With that said, can you please tell the class why Romney is the better choice? Without mentioning any Democrats.
Q) What would suddenly convince a guy who once said this
To espousing the complete opposite viewpoint in 18 years?
A) The realization that he'd never get elected to any federal office as a Republican holding this position.
So he changed it.
To espousing the complete opposite viewpoint in 18 years?
A) The realization that he'd never get elected to any federal office as a Republican holding this position.
So he changed it.
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