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    czarangelus 646 2012-05-21 09:09:16.0 login to vote score 2
    thanks Obama
    fatsean 3838 2012-05-21 09:11:48.0 login to vote score 0
    Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
    envelope 1546 2012-05-21 09:13:10.0 login to vote score 3
    I feel safer already.
    libs keep banning me 9992 2012-05-21 09:16:31.0 login to vote score 1
    I'm curious to know how someone participates in a drug smuggling ring without knowing.
    the sonic dildo 11340 2012-05-21 09:19:45.0 login to vote score 1
    czarangelus: thanks Obama

    Authoritarians gonna authoritate
    mike.refreshment 6827 2012-05-21 09:22:27.0 login to vote score 4
    libs keep banning me: I'm curious to know how someone participates in a drug smuggling ring without knowing.

    Fill body panels with drugs. Hire someone to drive a totally legit thing to a place. Don't tell them about the drugs.
    burntman 1528 2012-05-21 09:24:51.0 login to vote score 4
    libs keep banning me: I'm curious to know how someone participates in a drug smuggling ring without knowing.

    "do you mind taking this box to my cousin in America? It's a birthday present for him."
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 09:35:07.0 login to vote score 6
    mike.refreshment: Fill body panels with drugs. Hire someone to drive a totally legit thing to a place. Don't tell them about the drugs.

    Grandma, could you swallow these 12 condoms filled with flour for me? Thanks!
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-21 09:36:29.0 login to vote score 1
    What, officer? I'm making a few thousand tamales.
    mike.refreshment 6827 2012-05-21 09:39:21.0 login to vote score 2
    so vote republican: Grandma, could you swallow these 12 condoms filled with flour for me? Thanks!

    Granny's a real champ.
    impasse 820 2012-05-21 09:41:10.0 login to vote score 4
    mike.refreshment: Granny's a real champ.

    She loves swallowing the white stuff.
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 09:48:25.0 login to vote score 3
    impasse: She loves swallowing the white stuff.

    Your mom had to learn that skill from someone.
    impasse 820 2012-05-21 09:52:26.0 login to vote score 4
    quick1: Your mom had to learn that skill from someone.

    Wait, my mom swallowed granny's white stuff?
    chaos 446 2012-05-21 09:59:29.0 login to vote score 1
    Is she hot?
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 10:03:18.0 login to vote score 1
    czarangelus: thanks Obama

    56 years old... misleading headline for $1,000 Alex


    eclecticman66 2141 2012-05-21 10:07:26.0 login to vote score 0
    Texas Hold 'em is a hell of a game.
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-21 10:08:31.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: 56 years old... misleading headline for $1,000 Alex

    ??

    If it were a 22 year old black man it would be just as bad, right?
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-21 10:08:44.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: 56 years old... misleading headline for $1,000 Alex

    How is the headline misleading?
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-21 10:11:32.0 login to vote score 5
    Texas - Check
    Grandma - Check
    Sentenced to life without parole - Check
    First time drug offense - Check

    So, um, what's the problem, gabby?
    grotfabrieken rubbishhausen 561 2012-05-21 10:14:05.0 login to vote score 1
    osirisothedead: Texas - Check
    Grandma - Check
    Sentenced to life without parole - Check
    First time drug offense - Check

    So, um, what's the problem, gabby?


    Apparently she has to be over 9000 years old to be referred to as a grandma.
    chaos 446 2012-05-21 10:15:17.0 login to vote score 1
    grotfabrieken rubbishhausen: Apparently she has to be over 9000 years old to be referred to as a grandma.

    Heck, an old boss of mine was a grand mother when she was 35.

    Putting out for babies ran in her family
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-21 10:16:31.0 login to vote score 2
    grotfabrieken rubbishhausen: Apparently she has to be over 9000 years old to be referred to as a grandma.

    Oh. So gahbrone won't be happy unless it's this who is arrested:


    impasse 820 2012-05-21 10:18:10.0 login to vote score 1
    osirisothedead: Oh. So gahbrone won't be happy unless it's this who is arrested:

    I bet her white stuff tastes like apple pie.
    flashlv 1657 2012-05-21 10:19:31.0 login to vote score 1
    Castillo claims she didn't know about the drug operation, but agents said she should have known something was wrong when quantities of money and drugs were repeatedly found on the coaches.

    It's sad she went to prison, but if the jury came back with a guilty verdict, blame them, because they believed that she knew that the drugs and money were on the coaches.
    chaos 446 2012-05-21 10:20:53.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: Castillo claims she didn't know about the drug operation, but agents said she should have known something was wrong when quantities of money and drugs were repeatedly found on the coaches.

    It's sad she went to prison, but if the jury came back with a guilty verdict, blame them, because they believed that she knew that the drugs and money were on the coaches.


    damn peers!! :-)
    flashlv 1657 2012-05-21 10:21:01.0 login to vote score 0
    mike.refreshment: Fill body panels with drugs. Hire someone to drive a totally legit thing to a place. Don't tell them about the drugs.

    riiiiight. "here stranger, here's a free car for you to have/drive across the border. Here's a few dollars for your trouble of driving the free car across the border".

    flashlv 1657 2012-05-21 10:22:43.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: How is the headline misleading?

    Nothing technically. There are a few 30 year old grandma's out there and they should be labeled as grandmas!
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-21 10:24:39.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Nothing technically. There are a few 30 year old grandma's out there and they should be labeled as grandmas!

    What else should they be called? "Persons who had children young who in turn also had children young and are not old enough to invoke images of rocking chairs, crochet and Metamucil"? Or should we simply call them "sluts"?
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 10:26:40.0 login to vote score 3
    flashlv: Nothing technically. There are a few 30 year old grandma's out there and they should be labeled as grandmas!

    I know, I really hate it when I'm looking for good GILF porn, and they've got a woman who is clearly only 30.
    flashlv 1657 2012-05-21 10:27:35.0 login to vote score 0
    osirisothedead: What else should they be called? "Persons who had children young who in turn also had children young and are not old enough to invoke images of rocking chairs, crochet and Metamucil"? Or should we simply call them "sluts"?


    flashlv: Nothing technically.


    flashlv 1657 2012-05-21 10:28:06.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I know, I really hate it when I'm looking for good GILF porn, and they've got a woman who is clearly only 30.


    flashlv: Nothing technically.


    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-21 10:28:09.0 login to vote score 3
    quick1: I know, I really hate it when I'm looking for good GILF porn, and they've got a woman who is clearly only 30.

    You're looking in the wrong place. Try neoliquid.com.
    grotfabrieken rubbishhausen 561 2012-05-21 10:29:49.0 login to vote score 4
    osirisothedead: You're looking in the wrong place. Try neoliquid.com.

    Firefox can't find the server at neoliquid.com

    Oh yeah, I blocked it in my hosts file after one too many giant vagoos.
    mike.refreshment 6827 2012-05-21 10:30:41.0 login to vote score 2
    flashlv: riiiiight. "here stranger, here's a free car for you to have/drive across the border. Here's a few dollars for your trouble of driving the free car across the border".

    It helps if they are stupid. That's why they are called patsies.
    injuryproneerik 16 2012-05-21 10:36:50.0 login to vote score 4
    It doesn't even make any sense.

    So, in the Economics of Crime, your perverse incentives if you are even tangentially related to the drug trade are:

    a) go all in, (become a kingpin, hit man, anyone with info)

    or

    b) If you're going to be arrested, and you don't know much, don't go quietly: start shooting. Because really, the only sentence worse than life in prison is death row, and statistically it's still pretty hard to get on that list. Who knows, you might get away, and while you might have been able to do 1, 2, 3, or even 5 years if that was an option, life without parole is a pretty heavy sentence.

    \At some point aren't the officers involved fearful of these types of mandatory sentences, for fear of their own well being?
    flashlv 1657 2012-05-21 10:39:07.0 login to vote score 0
    injuryproneerik: It doesn't even make any sense.

    So, in the Economics of Crime, your perverse incentives if you are even tangentially related to the drug trade are:

    a) go all in, (become a kingpin, hit man, anyone with info)

    or

    b) If you're going to be arrested, and you don't know much, don't go quietly: start shooting. Because really, the only sentence worse than life in prison is death row, and statistically it's still pretty hard to get on that list. Who knows, you might get away, and while you might have been able to do 1, 2, 3, or even 5 years if that was an option, life without parole is a pretty heavy sentence.

    At some point aren't the officers involved fearful of these types of mandatory sentences, for fear of their own well being?


    I don't think the sentences make a difference for these kind of people though. They need the money, they are just hoping never to get caught, and they could think that it's just a one time thing.

    Obama could pardon here.....oh wait....
    impasse 820 2012-05-21 10:40:41.0 login to vote score 1
    flashlv: Obama could pardon here.....oh wait....

    Wait, so now you SUPPORT cocaine trafficking?
    fatsean 3838 2012-05-21 10:42:31.0 login to vote score 1
    injuryproneerik: It doesn't even make any sense.

    So, in the Economics of Crime, your perverse incentives if you are even tangentially related to the drug trade are:

    a) go all in, (become a kingpin, hit man, anyone with info)

    or

    b) If you're going to be arrested, and you don't know much, don't go quietly: start shooting. Because really, the only sentence worse than life in prison is death row, and statistically it's still pretty hard to get on that list. Who knows, you might get away, and while you might have been able to do 1, 2, 3, or even 5 years if that was an option, life without parole is a pretty heavy sentence.

    At some point aren't the officers involved fearful of these types of mandatory sentences, for fear of their own well being?


    I would have thought the same. But the creeping militarization of the police forces means they have much better equipment and likely have less to fear from a suspect shooting at them. Body armor, automatic weapons, tear gas, tazers, etc.

    injuryproneerik 16 2012-05-21 10:53:22.0 login to vote score 1
    fatsean: I would have thought the same. But the creeping militarization of the police forces means they have much better equipment and likely have less to fear from a suspect shooting at them. Body armor, automatic weapons, tear gas, tazers, etc.

    Yeah, I'm sure they could quite easily out-gun the grandmothers. Still, I'm not sure I'd want to be on the opposite side of an arms race with the Los Zetas as a whole, especially at a local police force level.
    comicbookguy 1170 2012-05-21 10:57:35.0 login to vote score 0
    Lemme guess w/out reading the article: she's either black or Hispanic, probably black?
    comicbookguy 1170 2012-05-21 10:59:30.0 login to vote score 0
    comicbookguy: Lemme guess w/out reading the article: she's either black or Hispanic, probably black?

    Ah, I was essentially right. You knew she wasn't going to be some blue blood, blonde chick from The Woodlands.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 11:03:27.0 login to vote score 0
    comicbookguy: Lemme guess w/out reading the article: she's either black or Hispanic, probably black?

    Given that black and hispanic make up nearly 50% of the population you've got a coin's flip chance of being right. So don't break your arm patting yourself too hard there...
    comicbookguy 1170 2012-05-21 11:05:28.0 login to vote score 0
    so vote republican: Given that black and hispanic make up nearly 50% of the population you've got a coin's flip chance of being right. So don't break your arm patting yourself too hard there...

    So, in theory, about 50% of the harsh sentences should go to whites? Gee, what do you think the stats would say on that?
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 11:07:05.0 login to vote score 0
    comicbookguy: So, in theory, about 50% of the harsh sentences should go to whites? Gee, what do you think the stats would say on that?

    Oh, the stats are completely the other way around, which is why the drug war is so racist, and anyone that supports the drug war... or votes for someone who does... is also quite racist in my opinion.

    But as for an individual, black+hispanic is 50%, so there's not much of a leap there.
    comicbookguy 1170 2012-05-21 11:09:41.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican: Oh, the stats are completely the other way around, which is why the drug war is so racist, and anyone that supports the drug war... or votes for someone who does... is also quite racist in my opinion.

    Nice dodge of a strawman counterargument you have there.
    bake 2096 2012-05-21 11:10:13.0 login to vote score 0
    libs keep banning me: I'm curious to know how someone participates in a drug smuggling ring without knowing.

    unsolicited cocaine filled condom in ass?
    shocker 99 2012-05-21 11:10:59.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 11:11:03.0 login to vote score 0
    comicbookguy: Nice dodge of a strawman counterargument you have there.

    Wat. What argument am I applying to someone else, with or without "in my opinion"?

    I'm agreeing with you!
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 11:13:26.0 login to vote score 2
    shocker:

    Not from the article, but from the link in the first paragraph...

    As the federal prison system has no parole, Castillo has no prospect of ever going home.

    This is a Federal thing, not Texas.
    comicbookguy 1170 2012-05-21 13:40:30.0 login to vote score 0
    so vote republican: Wat. What argument am I applying to someone else, with or without "in my opinion"?

    I'm agreeing with you!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hphwfq1wLJs

    *dances*
    comicbookguy 1170 2012-05-21 13:41:17.0 login to vote score 0
    comicbookguy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hphwfq1wLJs

    *dances*


    Oh, FFS, here's one w/out advertising:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmMNc_ySHAE
    bonus_eruptus 967 2012-05-21 16:46:19.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I know, I really hate it when I'm looking for good GILF porn, and they've got a woman who is clearly only 30.

    Exactly. Read a comment on some site (oddly, not here) that said she was 18 and couldn't wait until her baby came in a few months so she could be a MILF.

    Completely ignoring the fact that the "I" is subjective, of course.

    The "M" should stand for maturity, and not motherhood.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:07:40.0 login to vote score -2
    Because these are not the image the headline evokes for anyone not brain damaged (that is not a liberal):





    forgetting of course, that her being a "grandmother" has nothing - NOTHING - to do with her guilt... as neither does the fact that she didn't "touch" the drugs. She could have ordered and paid for someone's murder and neither touched the weapon nor the victim and in your warped and brain damaged world, she would be innocent.

    Reality is a 56 year old woman who knowingly participated in a cocaine smuggling ring. Some woman who was sitting home, baking apple pies.

    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:12:16.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: Because these are not the image the headline evokes for anyone not brain damaged (that is not a liberal):





    forgetting of course, that her being a "grandmother" has nothing - NOTHING - to do with her guilt... as neither does the fact that she didn't "touch" the drugs. She could have ordered and paid for someone's murder and neither touched the weapon nor the victim and in your warped and brain damaged world, she would be innocent.

    Reality is a 56 year old woman who knowingly participated in a cocaine smuggling ring. Some woman who was sitting home, baking apple pies.


    I'm just glad we're that much closer to victory in the War on Drugs.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:14:13.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I'm just glad we're that much closer to victory in the War on Drugs.

    the price of tea in china is 95 Yuan
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:14:48.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: the price of tea in china is 95 Yuan

    So arresting her has nothing to do with the War on Drugs?
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:16:56.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: So arresting her has nothing to do with the War on Drugs?

    There is a law, she broke it. If you have a problem with the political fight behind the law then vote for people who will change the law.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 17:18:14.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: There is a law, she broke it. If you have a problem with the political fight behind the law then vote for people who will change the law.

    Tell me who those people are, I'm all for it.
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:18:40.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: There is a law, she broke it. If you have a problem with the political fight behind the law then vote for people who will change the law.

    Sorry, I didn't realize that we couldn't talk about politics in this thread.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:19:26.0 login to vote score -1
    abt12monk: Tell me who those people are, I'm all for it.

    Not my problem if you can't find enough brain damaged people not on bN to run with your brain damaged ideas on the national level.
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:20:29.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: Not my problem if you can't find enough brain damaged people not on bN to run with your brain damaged ideas on the national level.

    Somehow I'm not shocked that you would call people who believe the War on Drugs is a stupid ass idea "brain damaged".
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:26:10.0 login to vote score -1
    quick1: Somehow I'm not shocked that you would call people who believe the War on Drugs is a stupid ass idea "brain damaged".

    Your brain damaged view of the world might make you think that it is legal to smuggle a few tons of cocaine in a fake bus company from mexico to the USA, but it's definitely legal. The "grandmother" to laws, doesn't apply to drug law.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 17:29:17.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: Your brain damaged view of the world might make you think that it is legal to smuggle a few tons of cocaine in a fake bus company from mexico to the USA, but it's definitely legal. The "grandmother" to laws, doesn't apply to drug law.

    How about we just make cocaine and all the other drugs completely legal?

    You do realize the worldwide black market for drugs wouldn't exist if the US federal government hadn't created it, right?
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 17:30:07.0 login to vote score 0
    And how typical of bN conservatives to call an opinion that's different from their's "brain damaged".
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:30:23.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: Your brain damaged view of the world might make you think that it is legal to smuggle a few tons of cocaine in a fake bus company from mexico to the USA, but it's definitely legal. The "grandmother" to laws, doesn't apply to drug law.

    If we didn't have a War on Drugs, smuggling across the border would be irrelevant, as it would almost never happen.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:31:09.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: How about we just make cocaine and all the other drugs completely legal?


    Would not change the fact that she broke current law.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:32:00.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: If we didn't have a War on Drugs, smuggling across the border would be irrelevant, as it would almost never happen.

    too bad for her, that the current law exists and she knowingly broke it.

    If only the "but she's a grandmother" exception applied here.
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:33:50.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: too bad for her, that the current law exists and she knowingly broke it.

    If only the "but she's a grandmother" exception applied here.


    The law is fucking stupid, is the point. The fact that a grandmother would be put away for life because of this stupid law, is the point.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 17:36:04.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: Would not change the fact that she broke current law.

    Ok, so if I say that law should be changed, I'm "brain damaged"?

    I'm not big on the "laws are legal" bullshit. Neither were the old-school conservatives, I might add.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:39:34.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: Ok, so if I say that law should be changed, I'm "brain damaged"?

    I'm not big on the "laws are legal" bullshit. Neither were the old-school conservatives, I might add.


    You might wish to pretend that there are not currently laws on the books about smuggling a few tons of cocaine across the border, but you'd be wrong.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:40:15.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: The law is fucking stupid, is the point. t.

    I'll add that to the "but she's a grandmother" exception to being convicted of a crime.


    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:41:59.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: I'll add that to the "but she's a grandmother" exception to being convicted of a crime.

    The only person who has said anything about an exception for her is you. The "but she's a grandmother" exception in reality got her the worst sentence of anyone in the smuggling ring, BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T KNOW SHIT. She didn't know enough to plea a deal.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:45:37.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: The only person who has said anything about an exception for her is you.

    read the article and others... she outright refused a plea deal. It must be so, so fun to go through life being a willfully ignorant fool.

    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:51:41.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: read the article and others... she outright refused a plea deal. It must be so, so fun to go through life being a willfully ignorant fool.

    Are you a completely illiterate moron?

    Convicted in a drug-smuggling conspiracy, 56-year-old Castillo maintains that she didn't know she was being used as a pawn in a cocaine trafficking operation between Mexico and Houston. Given her alleged role as a low-level player in the conspiracy, it makes sense that she was not privy to — and therefore could not provide — any valuable information to federal agents that could lead to the arrest and prosecution of the leaders or other high level members of the alleged conspiracy. Since she was of no help to the government, Castillo received the harshest sentence of the approximately 68 people involved in the scheme, despite being a first-time offender who never saw the drugs she was accused of trafficking.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 17:55:20.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: Are you a completely illiterate moron?
    .


    That she chose not to offer any added information does not make her innocent. That she is a grandmother does not make her innocent.

    That she did knowingly aid in smuggling of a ton of cocaine from mexico to the US by way of a fake bus company is what matters.

    You might wish to pretend that facts and laws don't matter, but your brain damaged view of the world is not relevant.

    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 17:56:39.0 login to vote score 0
    How about this: None of the people involved should have been arrested.

    The whole drug smuggling ring should have never existed in the first place.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 17:57:30.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: That she chose not to offer any added information does not make her innocent.

    I don't think you have much choice in offering information you don't have.
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 17:58:36.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: That she chose not to offer any added information does not make her innocent. That she is a grandmother does not make her innocent.

    I never said that not knowing anything made her innocent, nor did I say that being a grandmother made her innocent. I'm saying that the system that arrested her in the first place, the system that gave her the worst sentence for the least crime, is fucking stupid.

    Just like you.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 18:06:55.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: I. I'm saying that the system that arrested her in the first place, the system that gave her the worst sentence for the least crime, is fucking stupid.


    The "system" didn't force her to knowingly smuggle a ton of cocaine from mexico into the US via a fake bus company. She participated in that all by herself.

    The article absolutely implies that her being a "grandmother" is someone a mitigating factor. Only someone brain damaged would agree with that.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 18:11:25.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: The article absolutely implies that her being a "grandmother" is someone a mitigating factor. Only someone brain damaged would agree with that.

    LWOP for a first time, non-violent offense is absolute bullshit, no matter who you are.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 18:17:34.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: LWOP for a first time, non-violent offense is absolute bullshit, no matter who you are.

    you'll have to wake up from the dream world you live in where that's true
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 18:17:56.0 login to vote score 1
    gahbrone: you'll have to wake up from the dream world you live in where that's true

    You are a psycho.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 18:22:06.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: you'll have to wake up from the dream world you live in where that's true

    So, Russia is a dream world, then?


    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 18:25:34.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: You are a psycho.

    You might think that being a grandmother is somehow a mitigating factor to smuggling a ton of cocaine from mexico to the US in a fake bus company. You might think beleivng in law and order makes someone a "psycho".. but you'd be wrong.

    in fact, the medical definiton of psychosis is grounded on a loss of contact with reality, where one has fixed and false beliefs - which are called delusions - about what is actually occurring typically with some amount of visual and auditory hallucinations.

    You've got the delusional part down perfectly.
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 18:34:23.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: You might think that being a grandmother is somehow a mitigating factor to smuggling a ton of cocaine from mexico to the US in a fake bus company. You might think beleivng in law and order makes someone a "psycho".. but you'd be wrong.

    You're delusional for thinking LWOP is an appropriate punishment for what she did.

    And, sorry, but no. That's not "law and order".
    quick1 501 2012-05-21 18:36:37.0 login to vote score 1
    It's amazing to me that even phil is more reasonable than gahbrone sometimes.
    funklordtoejam 1042 2012-05-21 18:43:34.0 login to vote score 2
    quick1: You are a psycho.

    Oh, he's just kidding. Gahbrone's a total pothead, yknow. He's been arrested on a possession charge thrice, but he's white....so medical school.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-21 18:43:47.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: You're delusional for thinking

    You might pretend that smuggling a ton of cocaine from mexico to the US via a fake bus company is a small crime, but that would be as delusional as the direct implication that being a "grandmother" is a mitigating factor to a crime.

    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 18:53:29.0 login to vote score 2
    quick1: Somehow I'm not shocked that you would call people who believe the War on Drugs is a stupid ass idea "brain damaged".

    I would call the people who believe the War on Drugs is a stupid ass idea and then who vote for more of it "brain damaged".
    abt12monk 10796 2012-05-21 18:54:55.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: You might pretend that smuggling a ton of cocaine from mexico to the US via a fake bus company is a small crime, but that would be as delusional as the direct implication that being a "grandmother" is a mitigating factor to a crime.

    Oh, so she loaded the ton of cocaine on the bus, then drove the bus herself from Mexico into the US?

    I missed that part of the article.

    And even if she had done those things, LWOP is not fucking appropriate.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-21 19:24:13.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: Oh, so she loaded the ton of cocaine on the bus, then drove the bus herself from Mexico into the US?

    I think making a distinction between the workers and the executives is counter-productive as it prevents us from indicting CEOs.
    gahbrone 481 2012-05-22 08:25:46.0 login to vote score 0
    abt12monk: Oh, so she loaded the ton of cocaine on the bus, then drove the bus herself from Mexico into the US?

    I missed that part of the article.

    And even if she had done those things, LWOP is not fucking appropriate.



    By your brain damaged logic, she could have ordered and paid for a hit on her husband but never touched the weapon or pulled the trigger and thus been innocent.

    Seek professional help, since you clearly function with the brain of a 5 year old.
    osirisothedead 1858 2012-05-22 08:37:58.0 login to vote score 0
    gahbrone: Because these are not the image the headline evokes for anyone not brain damaged (that is not a liberal):

    You mean in the minds of ageist shitbags such as yourself?
    If you logged in, you could post here.