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    oldfart 1558 2012-05-25 17:03:12.0 login to vote score 1
    What, not into a wretched hive of scum and villainy?

    I am disappoint...
    farkmeblind 482 2012-05-25 17:17:03.0 login to vote score 3
    Praise Aynholes!
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 17:18:24.0 login to vote score 1
    You know who I blame? The Whig Party.
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 17:24:33.0 login to vote score 1
    What other people who have never, ever been in power can we blame? I know, it's the Thai's fault.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 17:33:51.0 login to vote score 0
    czarangelus: What other people who have never, ever been in power can we blame? I know, it's the Thai's fault.

    Snowball keeps sneaking back in and knocking over the windmill!

    In fact, he was with the Jones farm all along!!!
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 17:40:39.0 login to vote score 0
    Maybe the folly is, naturally, with myself. Maybe I'm the rodeo clown for imagining that you people might ever be better than you should be. Stupid motherfuckers all, the two legged locust citizens of a parasite nation, who view every day that you consume more than you create as worse than the Holocaust and everyone who expects you to pull your own weight as worse than Hitler. Maybe I'm the idiot for trying to reason with any of you two faced conniving dogs who take credit for everything you never accomplished and treat anyone who works in expectation of profiting as an object of derision. You are the shame of the human race. I ridicule your violence and I mock your lust for what you never earned, because you can never seize it; you can only destroy it and those who create it in the effort of trying. Better that both be deprived of profit than that you get away with it in the end, enslaving every fruit of the body and mind.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 17:47:12.0 login to vote score 1
    czarangelus: Better that both be deprived of profit than that you get away with it in the end, enslaving every fruit of the body and mind.

    I don't think it's that. These people want the same thing that the sociopaths at the top of corporations want: power.

    Look at the thread in the queue "This is your country on austerity." The idea of backing off on spending and slowing down is anathema to them because it means less control of money.

    They despise these banks/corps... until they are given the authority to rescue them with printed money and take control.
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 17:51:07.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican: I don't think it's that. These people want the same thing that the sociopaths at the top of corporations want: power.

    Look at the thread in the queue "This is your country on austerity." The idea of backing off on spending and slowing down is anathema to them because it means less control of money.

    They despise these banks/corps... until they are given the authority to rescue them with printed money and take control.


    When things really hit the wall in this country, the likelihood of bN libs putting all the blame on the people who tried to stop the process will approach one.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 17:52:28.0 login to vote score 1
    czarangelus: When things really hit the wall in this country, the likelihood of bN libs putting all the blame on the people who tried to stop the process will approach one.

    Well, duh. Look at the "This is your country on austerity." thread, like I said.

    It couldn't possibly be everything leading up to it... nope. It's simply the idea of cutting spending that will destroy the magical economy fairy.
    code_7 6865 2012-05-25 17:58:05.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican: Well, duh. Look at the "This is your country on austerity." thread, like I said.

    It couldn't possibly be everything leading up to it... nope. It's simply the idea of cutting spending that will destroy the magical economy fairy.


    So what do you say, cut all social services to 0 until we pay down the debt then?

    Because that's what they are doing over there and you can watch, in real time, how magnificent that is working out.

    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 18:00:44.0 login to vote score 1
    code_7: So what do you say, cut all social services to 0 until we pay down the debt then?

    Because that's what they are doing over there and you can watch, in real time, how magnificent that is working out.


    They can't borrow any more money. They can't raise the tax rate or the tax collection rate without employing an army. They're trillions of Euros into the hole. Sometimes there is no right answer. Sometimes you should have listened to the naysayers before you went skipping into the dark forest, and when the evil witch of the woods has you in the oven, it's a little late to be implementing grand plans to turn your situation around.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 18:01:20.0 login to vote score 0
    code_7: So what do you say, cut all social services to 0 until we pay down the debt then?

    Strawman. Of course that's not a good idea.

    Because that's what they are doing over there and you can watch, in real time, how magnificent that is working out.

    No. That's not exactly what they are doing. That is, in fact, the opposite of what they have been doing.

    What they have actually been doing is continuing to throw money at the problem and propping up bad banks, pretending they are still solvent.
    bucket of truth 1525 2012-05-25 18:11:08.0 login to vote score 0
    Thanks Obama!
    code_7 6865 2012-05-25 18:12:46.0 login to vote score 0
    so vote republican:
    What they have actually been doing is continuing to throw money at the problem and propping up bad banks, pretending they are still solvent.


    They are using tax dollars to prop up failing systems AND cutting every social program they have.

    That is not what others are and have been suggesting.

    They should be bolstering their social systems and allowing the parasitic banks to go belly up.

    They may not be cutting them to 0 but they are cutting them to the bone, per Germany et al demands.


    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 18:15:02.0 login to vote score 0
    code_7: They are using tax dollars to prop up failing systems AND cutting every social program they have.

    That is not what others are and have been suggesting.

    They should be bolstering their social systems and allowing the parasitic banks to go belly up.

    They may not be cutting them to 0 but they are cutting them to the bone, per Germany et al demands.


    What do you think will happen if the bankrupt banks collapse? There will be bank runs, panic in the streets, and within weeks the entire government will melt down since banks and government have an incestual relationship of mutual funding. Do you think the Greek government wants to turn into Iceland, where the people ran their government fuckers out?
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 18:17:09.0 login to vote score 0
    code_7: They are using tax dollars to prop up failing systems AND cutting every social program they have.

    That is not what others are and have been suggesting.

    They should be bolstering their social systems and allowing the parasitic banks to go belly up.

    They may not be cutting them to 0 but they are cutting them to the bone, per Germany et al demands.


    Greek retirement age is 55. Is this really "to the bone" in your opinion?
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 18:17:18.0 login to vote score 1
    Every single thing you hear Romney or Obama say, is said in service to Wall St. We have certain, mentally incontinent users of this site, who shall remain nameless, who are unable to intellectually acknowledge this fact. Obama doesn't want to protect the American economy any more than he wants to let all the black people out of jail for petty, non-violent drug crimes. He wants to serve his money masters and serve them he does, with the firm applause of a nation of retards.
    code_7 6865 2012-05-25 18:19:12.0 login to vote score 0
    czarangelus: There will be bank runs, panic in the streets, and within weeks the entire government will melt down

    OK, well that all seems to be happening anyway.

    And their governments are beginning to fall. They just got rid of Sarchozy in favor of a socialist.

    It may not be the bloody revolution you are expecting but the people are taking back control.
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 18:21:08.0 login to vote score 0
    Every ridiculous and hypocritical lib on this site carries water for Obama while trashing his real employers; one moment it's "He saved the banks for our freedom! Praise Him!" and the next moment it's, "Damn those sociopaths for committing the greatest financial fraud in human history with free money from the government!" How people can hold such contradictory thoughts without smoke pouring out of their ears remains a mystery to me; perhaps it's because they don't have a lot of gears turning inside their skulls to begin with.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 18:22:06.0 login to vote score 0
    czarangelus: Every ridiculous and hypocritical lib on this site carries water for Obama while trashing his real employers; one moment it's "He saved the banks for our freedom! Praise Him!" and the next moment it's, "Damn those sociopaths for committing the greatest financial fraud in human history with free money from the government!" How people can hold such contradictory thoughts without smoke pouring out of their ears remains a mystery to me; perhaps it's because they don't have a lot of gears turning inside their skulls to begin with.

    Don't be a dick.

    It's the human condition. We're tribal animals.
    czarangelus 646 2012-05-25 18:22:41.0 login to vote score 0
    code_7: OK, well that all seems to be happening anyway.

    And their governments are beginning to fall. They just got rid of Sarchozy in favor of a socialist.

    It may not be the bloody revolution you are expecting but the people are taking back control.


    Oh please. I'm sure Hollande has big plans for charting a sustainable, long-term course for France to pay off its debts and provide the regulatory space for prosperity to grow. No, he's going to try to bite the hand that feeds him, and "stick it to" the Germans even while begging for another few hundred billion, just like those damned Greeks.
    code_7 6865 2012-05-25 18:23:12.0 login to vote score 0
    so vote republican: Greek retirement age is 55. Is this really "to the bone" in your opinion?

    What was it before? What were they proposing before the people took to the streets?

    Yeah, if they try to cut much more then the people over there will run them out on a rail. And deservedly so.

    If the governments are taking in our money then it needs to be put back into our economies.

    I'm really sorry that this capitalist dream has failed but it's about time we start working on something different.
    code_7 6865 2012-05-25 18:25:22.0 login to vote score 0
    czarangelus: Oh please. I'm sure Hollande has big plans for charting a sustainable, long-term course for France to pay off its debts and provide the regulatory space for prosperity to grow. No, he's going to try to bite the hand that feeds him, and "stick it to" the Germans even while begging for another few hundred billion, just like those damned Greeks.

    I don't understand how you can seem so enlightened in some areas and yet such a complete drone in others...

    I'll just let you guys with your 'big ideas' hang out here...
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-25 18:27:57.0 login to vote score 0
    code_7: What was it before?

    What were they proposing before the people took to the streets?

    57.

    Yeah, if they try to cut much more then the people over there will run them out on a rail. And deservedly so.

    If you think so. I think that's ridiculous and has gotten them where they are today.

    If the governments are taking in our money then it needs to be put back into our economies.

    The Greek government was taking in taxpayer money... and bank money.

    I'm really sorry that this capitalist dream has failed but it's about time we start working on something different.

    How, exactly, was this capitalism?
    code_7 6865 2012-05-25 22:27:46.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican:
    How, exactly, was this capitalism?


    No, you're right, that was a bit too hyperbolic and exaggerated and it is not solely the fault of capitalism but I do lay the blame on greed for selling out the futures of their children for a bit more. They, we have allowed ourselves to be bought and sold or a dream. A dream that one day we would be the ones in power.

    Well, everyone can't be on top. And not all of us want to step on those below us just to gain another rung.

    Let the bankers starve, take care of your populace first. That is all I'm trying to say.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-05-26 13:04:13.0 login to vote score 0
    code_7: No, you're right, that was a bit too hyperbolic and exaggerated and it is not solely the fault of capitalism but I do lay the blame on greed for selling out the futures of their children for a bit more. They, we have allowed ourselves to be bought and sold or a dream. A dream that one day we would be the ones in power.

    Well, everyone can't be on top. And not all of us want to step on those below us just to gain another rung.

    Let the bankers starve, take care of your populace first. That is all I'm trying to say.


    Then we agree.

    Unfortunately Obama and Romney do not.
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