We're not preparing for the sea level rise that won't happen. Really.
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I bet the insurers are, however ;)
Oh I see your city hasn't taken precautions, we'll have to increase your premium considerably.
Oh I see your city hasn't taken precautions, we'll have to increase your premium considerably.
Where I live they are still doing a massive project of pumping billions pound of sand from the sea bed 5 miles out on to the beaches. The beaches are huge now and so many of the beachfront properties lost their view. Now all they see is a giant mound of sand.
swingingjohnson: Where I live they are still doing a massive project of pumping billions pound of sand from the sea bed 5 miles out on to the beaches. The beaches are huge now and so many of the beachfront properties lost their view. Now all they see is a giant mound of sand.
I doubt it will work. The sand and water flows have been so disturbed there that simply pumping sand back in is likely unsustainable.
I doubt it will work. The sand and water flows have been so disturbed there that simply pumping sand back in is likely unsustainable.
If they're dumb enough to stay let them drown
The power of legislation over science! We've declared it: It won't happen.
That's just the storm surge in NYC.
Here's is a link to a map of Maryland's coastal elevation. A lot of the Eastern Shore is going to be gone. A number of military installations will be affected by this even if you don't give a fuck about the farmers.
fallen from grace: That's just the storm surge in NYC.
Here's is a link to a map of Maryland's coastal elevation. A lot of the Eastern Shore is going to be gone. A number of military installations will be affected by this even if you don't give a fuck about the farmers.
DC is on that map too. Say goodbye to many national monuments, and hello to wet halls of Congress and a great many other government buildings.
Here's is a link to a map of Maryland's coastal elevation. A lot of the Eastern Shore is going to be gone. A number of military installations will be affected by this even if you don't give a fuck about the farmers.
DC is on that map too. Say goodbye to many national monuments, and hello to wet halls of Congress and a great many other government buildings.
beerdiva: If they're dumb enough to stay let them drown
An admirable sentiment were it just the SE coast of the US. Unfortunately 44% of the global population lives in coastal areas.
An admirable sentiment were it just the SE coast of the US. Unfortunately 44% of the global population lives in coastal areas.
intentionally left blank: The power of legislation over science! We've declared it: It won't happen.
To be fair, they know their law, their economics, and some know medicine.
To be fair, they know their law, their economics, and some know medicine.
fallen from grace: To be fair, they know their law, their economics, and some know medicine.
Given some pronouncements about the Constitution, I'd argue about law. History, too, but you didn't mention that! :-)
Given some pronouncements about the Constitution, I'd argue about law. History, too, but you didn't mention that! :-)
fallen from grace: To be fair, they know their law, their economics, and some know medicine.
Very few, apparently. There was a senator/scientist interviewed a few weeks ago (NPR) who was urging anyone with a science background to start running for local office.
Very few, apparently. There was a senator/scientist interviewed a few weeks ago (NPR) who was urging anyone with a science background to start running for local office.
farkmeblind: An admirable sentiment were it just the SE coast of the US. Unfortunately 44% of the global population lives in coastal areas.
Many urban areas are along coasts or rivers connected to coasts because of transportation. More than 50% of the world's population lives in urban areas and this is rapidly increasing.
Also, what I don't think some folks realize is that you don't have to live close to the coast to be affected. It could be an indirect impact, but the water is going to travel far inland in many places. It isn't just coastal Louisiana and Mississippi that will flood. The water will travel up the Mississippi River.
This is a seismic map of the Mississippi River valley, but it shows elevation. Pretty fucking flat pretty far up the river ennit? :/
Many urban areas are along coasts or rivers connected to coasts because of transportation. More than 50% of the world's population lives in urban areas and this is rapidly increasing.
Also, what I don't think some folks realize is that you don't have to live close to the coast to be affected. It could be an indirect impact, but the water is going to travel far inland in many places. It isn't just coastal Louisiana and Mississippi that will flood. The water will travel up the Mississippi River.
This is a seismic map of the Mississippi River valley, but it shows elevation. Pretty fucking flat pretty far up the river ennit? :/
farkmeblind: Very few, apparently. There was a senator/scientist interviewed a few weeks ago (NPR) who was urging anyone with a science background to start running for local office.
If only it would count for tenure. LOL
If only it would count for tenure. LOL
fallen from grace: DC is on that map too. Say goodbye to many national monuments, and hello to wet halls of Congress and a great many other government buildings.
And nothing of value was lost.
And nothing of value was lost.
fallen from grace: Many urban areas are along coasts or rivers connected to coasts because of transportation. More than 50% of the world's population lives in urban areas and this is rapidly increasing.
Also, what I don't think some folks realize is that you don't have to live close to the coast to be affected. It could be an indirect impact, but the water is going to travel far inland in many places. It isn't just coastal Louisiana and Mississippi that will flood. The water will travel up the Mississippi River.
This is a seismic map of the Mississippi River valley, but it shows elevation. Pretty fucking flat pretty far up the river ennit? :/
Yep. There's a reason Cahokia was a series of mounds. Further north, we can about kiss Minot and Fargo/Moorhead goodbye, as the increased rainfall will contribute to greater seasonal flooding.
I hadn't really thought about the overall datum increasing.
Also, what I don't think some folks realize is that you don't have to live close to the coast to be affected. It could be an indirect impact, but the water is going to travel far inland in many places. It isn't just coastal Louisiana and Mississippi that will flood. The water will travel up the Mississippi River.
This is a seismic map of the Mississippi River valley, but it shows elevation. Pretty fucking flat pretty far up the river ennit? :/
Yep. There's a reason Cahokia was a series of mounds. Further north, we can about kiss Minot and Fargo/Moorhead goodbye, as the increased rainfall will contribute to greater seasonal flooding.
I hadn't really thought about the overall datum increasing.
fallen from grace: If only it would count for tenure. LOL
It's better than. Almost all senators are millionaires and they get a better healthcare/retirement package than TIAA-CREF.
It's better than. Almost all senators are millionaires and they get a better healthcare/retirement package than TIAA-CREF.
so vote republican: And nothing of value was lost.
I don't know. When the Smithsonian gets waterlogged and all those treasures are lost, I will have a great sadness. I think many others will too. Maybe they already have a plan in place. I hope so.
farkmeblind:
I hadn't really thought about the overall datum increasing.
This isn't one many people think about, but it is there. We try to beat it into student's heads in my department (the archaeology and environmental anthro folks). Even if they never have to think about it for an archaeology or anthropology job, I certainly hope they use their knowledge when buying a home.
I don't know. When the Smithsonian gets waterlogged and all those treasures are lost, I will have a great sadness. I think many others will too. Maybe they already have a plan in place. I hope so.
farkmeblind:
I hadn't really thought about the overall datum increasing.
This isn't one many people think about, but it is there. We try to beat it into student's heads in my department (the archaeology and environmental anthro folks). Even if they never have to think about it for an archaeology or anthropology job, I certainly hope they use their knowledge when buying a home.
farkmeblind: It's better than. Almost all senators are millionaires and they get a better healthcare/retirement package than TIAA-CREF.
But it takes time away from fun research (if you're lucky to be in that position) and from family. Plus, you have to deal with politicians and lobbyists. Ick!
But it takes time away from fun research (if you're lucky to be in that position) and from family. Plus, you have to deal with politicians and lobbyists. Ick!
fallen from grace: I don't know. When the Smithsonian gets waterlogged and all those treasures are lost, I will have a great sadness. I think many others will too. Maybe they already have a plan in place. I hope so.
This isn't one many people think about, but it is there. We try to beat it into student's heads in my department (the archaeology and environmental anthro folks). Even if they never have to think about it for an archaeology or anthropology job, I certainly hope they use their knowledge when buying a home.
I'm almost certain they do. I'm taking a one-week intensive in disaster response, I'll see what I can find out.
Y'know, it's considerations like that that make it impossible to buy a home in California without being insane. No matter where you look, there's some looming natural disaster. I miss it.
This isn't one many people think about, but it is there. We try to beat it into student's heads in my department (the archaeology and environmental anthro folks). Even if they never have to think about it for an archaeology or anthropology job, I certainly hope they use their knowledge when buying a home.
I'm almost certain they do. I'm taking a one-week intensive in disaster response, I'll see what I can find out.
Y'know, it's considerations like that that make it impossible to buy a home in California without being insane. No matter where you look, there's some looming natural disaster. I miss it.
fallen from grace: I don't know. When the Smithsonian gets waterlogged and all those treasures are lost, I will have a great sadness. I think many others will too. Maybe they already have a plan in place. I hope so.
Some curiosity collections have a value I suppose. Most government monuments are tributes to war.
As is Congress.
Some curiosity collections have a value I suppose. Most government monuments are tributes to war.
As is Congress.
so vote republican: Some curiosity collections have a value I suppose. Most government monuments are tributes to war.
As is Congress.
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here on the "curiousity collections." It is world history and culture and technology, as well as that of the US. The Smithsonian storage and offices go down several stories underground at the Mall as well as the buildings surrounding the Mall. Like I said we can agree to disagree here.
As is Congress.
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here on the "curiousity collections." It is world history and culture and technology, as well as that of the US. The Smithsonian storage and offices go down several stories underground at the Mall as well as the buildings surrounding the Mall. Like I said we can agree to disagree here.
farkmeblind: I doubt it will work. The sand and water flows have been so disturbed there that simply pumping sand back in is likely unsustainable.
I don't know but when I said "massive" I meant "really fucking huge massive".
Were the beach was about 300 feet of sand is now several thousand feet.
I don't know but when I said "massive" I meant "really fucking huge massive".
Were the beach was about 300 feet of sand is now several thousand feet.
farkmeblind: I'm almost certain they do. I'm taking a one-week intensive in disaster response, I'll see what I can find out.
Don't get your hopes up. If this is a course in your school it will likely focus on human health and events like Katrina, tsunamis, earthquakes, etc. The first concern in any disaster should be saving lives.
When we have time to prepare and we know it is coming, then it is time to take precautions for humans, food and water security, and other things deemed important - including curiosity collections. :D
Don't get your hopes up. If this is a course in your school it will likely focus on human health and events like Katrina, tsunamis, earthquakes, etc. The first concern in any disaster should be saving lives.
When we have time to prepare and we know it is coming, then it is time to take precautions for humans, food and water security, and other things deemed important - including curiosity collections. :D
fallen from grace: Don't get your hopes up. If this is a course in your school it will likely focus on human health and events like Katrina, tsunamis, earthquakes, etc. The first concern in any disaster should be saving lives.
When we have time to prepare and we know it is coming, then it is time to take precautions for humans, food and water security, and other things deemed important - including curiosity collections. :D
Who needs the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and the Jefferson Bibles anyway.
When we have time to prepare and we know it is coming, then it is time to take precautions for humans, food and water security, and other things deemed important - including curiosity collections. :D
Who needs the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and the Jefferson Bibles anyway.
fallen from grace: I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here on the "curiousity collections."
I was teasing about that. I know how to make an anthropologist squirm... :)
I was teasing about that. I know how to make an anthropologist squirm... :)
so vote republican: I was teasing about that. I know how to make an anthropologist squirm... :)
I was hoping you were teasing, but I never know here. :D
I was hoping you were teasing, but I never know here. :D
fallen from grace: I was hoping you were teasing, but I never know here. :D
You were lucky I didn't simply go with "curios". "Knick-knacks" was also a strong contender.
You were lucky I didn't simply go with "curios". "Knick-knacks" was also a strong contender.
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