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gahbrone: I do not have any confidence that will happen. SJC and ESPECIALLY the POTUS
I have every confidence that the law will be struck down and Obama will lose. The trend is clear and obvious.
I have every confidence that the law will be struck down and Obama will lose. The trend is clear and obvious.
jimmythehutt: I have every confidence that the law will be struck down and Obama will lose. The trend is clear and obvious.
Yeah, not agreed.
This is comical though:
David Axelrod says this a problem for Romney.
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/210166576857616384
Yeah, not agreed.
This is comical though:
David Axelrod says this a problem for Romney.
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/210166576857616384
phil_herup: Why is the Right to Work bad?
Why should you be forced to join a union?
Because if everyone else you work with want a union, you join the fucking union. If everyone decides to dissolve the union, you ca do that too..
Why should you be forced to join a union?
Because if everyone else you work with want a union, you join the fucking union. If everyone decides to dissolve the union, you ca do that too..
gahbrone: Yeah, not agreed.
This is comical though:
David Axelrod says this a problem for Romney.
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/210166576857616384
He's daft, then.
This is comical though:
David Axelrod says this a problem for Romney.
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/210166576857616384
He's daft, then.
paranoyd: If you want to debate whether he gave ENOUGH support, I can see your point and possibly agree. But I disagree that this will effect Obama's election. People's minds are made up. This won't change anything.
I'll tell you, I was already not in his corner but any sympathy I had toward his reelection is completely gone now.
I'll tell you, I was already not in his corner but any sympathy I had toward his reelection is completely gone now.
code_7: I'll tell you, I was already not in his corner but any sympathy I had toward his reelection is completely gone now.
I think people's expectations are unrealistic of the President. If Bush can't singlehandedly ruin everything, Obama can't singlehandedly fix it.
I think people's expectations are unrealistic of the President. If Bush can't singlehandedly ruin everything, Obama can't singlehandedly fix it.
Woot, Republicans win!!
Maddow is looking mighty sexafied tonight.
I think everybody attempting to extrapolate this onto the Presidential election is out of their gourds.
jimmythehutt: I have every confidence that the law will be struck down and Obama will lose. The trend is clear and obvious.
Yep, I'm pretty much with you...
All that 'Hope' I had during the 07-08 campaigning is completely gone, silly me for thinking we would actually have a real populist president...
Yep, I'm pretty much with you...
All that 'Hope' I had during the 07-08 campaigning is completely gone, silly me for thinking we would actually have a real populist president...
Almost NO coverage that we won all 4 senate recall elections too.
including one where the GOP up for recall retired... so there was no incumbent
code_7: Yep, I'm pretty much with you...
All that 'Hope' I had during the 07-08 campaigning is completely gone, silly me for thinking we would actually have a real populist president...
he did fuck y'all pretty bad.
All that 'Hope' I had during the 07-08 campaigning is completely gone, silly me for thinking we would actually have a real populist president...
he did fuck y'all pretty bad.
sabine: I think everybody attempting to extrapolate this onto the Presidential election is out of their gourds.
Exactly. Keep your gourds on.
Exactly. Keep your gourds on.
code_7: Yep, I'm pretty much with you...
All that 'Hope' I had during the 07-08 campaigning is completely gone, silly me for thinking we would actually have a real populist president...
Why?
All that 'Hope' I had during the 07-08 campaigning is completely gone, silly me for thinking we would actually have a real populist president...
Why?
paranoyd: I think people's expectations are unrealistic of the President. If Bush can't singlehandedly ruin everything, Obama can't singlehandedly fix it.
He can and could have done A LOT more than he actually did. I mean he didn't even give good lip service to this or any other project that he backed in 08.
He can and could have done A LOT more than he actually did. I mean he didn't even give good lip service to this or any other project that he backed in 08.
sabine: I think everybody attempting to extrapolate this onto the Presidential election is out of their gourds.
Why? It seems a pretty clear indication.of the impact of spending in a campaign, and the lengths the GOP financial backers will go to to win. Do you think they won't do something similar in November?
Why? It seems a pretty clear indication.of the impact of spending in a campaign, and the lengths the GOP financial backers will go to to win. Do you think they won't do something similar in November?
code_7: He can and could have done A LOT more than he actually did. I mean he didn't even give good lip service to this or any other project that he backed in 08.
Well, he became the President in '09, so I'm not sure how that equates.
Well, he became the President in '09, so I'm not sure how that equates.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Maddow now basically ays that Walker SHOULD "meet in the middle" hahahahaha
Maddow now basically ays that Walker SHOULD "meet in the middle" hahahahaha
sabine: I think everybody attempting to extrapolate this onto the Presidential election is out of their gourds.
Why?
Why?
gahbrone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Maddow now basically ays that Walker SHOULD "meet in the middle" hahahahaha
Yeah, that will happen.
Maddow now basically ays that Walker SHOULD "meet in the middle" hahahahaha
Yeah, that will happen.
jimmythehutt: Why?
Because nobody outside Wisconsin will remember this three months from now, and Wisconsin is irrelevant. Ohio, Florida, and maybe North Carolina and Virginia are pretty much all that matters.
Because nobody outside Wisconsin will remember this three months from now, and Wisconsin is irrelevant. Ohio, Florida, and maybe North Carolina and Virginia are pretty much all that matters.
paranoyd: Why?
Because it is apparent that anything he said he believed in was only to get elected. He said he wanted a single payer healthcare system, he did nothing to try and achieve that. He said that hew would stand up with the people trying to keep their unions safe, he gave a few throw away lines in a speech or two. Then there's GUantanamo and Drones and domestic spying. This administration is constantly taking sides with Wall Street and whomever else will make large campaign donations.
It sucks, it's sad and it might well be the end of his career. Cause I guarantee you he will not have the youth support that he did 4 years ago.
Because it is apparent that anything he said he believed in was only to get elected. He said he wanted a single payer healthcare system, he did nothing to try and achieve that. He said that hew would stand up with the people trying to keep their unions safe, he gave a few throw away lines in a speech or two. Then there's GUantanamo and Drones and domestic spying. This administration is constantly taking sides with Wall Street and whomever else will make large campaign donations.
It sucks, it's sad and it might well be the end of his career. Cause I guarantee you he will not have the youth support that he did 4 years ago.
gahbrone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Maddow now basically ays that Walker SHOULD "meet in the middle" hahahahaha
She's fucking crazy.
Maddow now basically ays that Walker SHOULD "meet in the middle" hahahahaha
She's fucking crazy.
sabine: Because nobody outside Wisconsin will remember this three months from now, and Wisconsin is irrelevant. Ohio, Florida, and maybe North Carolina and Virginia are pretty much all that matters.
Nobody?
Nobody?
jimmythehutt: Yeah, that will happen.
Why the fuck should he?
ALL elections have consequences... but this one... he didn't want, they forced and now have to eat a shit sandwhich.
They should kiss his asshole up to the splenic flexure.
Why the fuck should he?
ALL elections have consequences... but this one... he didn't want, they forced and now have to eat a shit sandwhich.
They should kiss his asshole up to the splenic flexure.
paranoyd: Well, he became the President in '09, so I'm not sure how that equates.
Yeah, when he was running for president he had a major populist bent to him and all that seemed to fizzle out pretty damn quick...
Yeah, when he was running for president he had a major populist bent to him and all that seemed to fizzle out pretty damn quick...
sabine: Because nobody outside Wisconsin will remember this three months from now, and Wisconsin is irrelevant. Ohio, Florida, and maybe North Carolina and Virginia are pretty much all that matters.
I'll remember.
I'll remember.
code_7: Because it is apparent that anything he said he believed in was only to get elected. He said he wanted a single payer healthcare system, he did nothing to try and achieve that. He said that hew would stand up with the people trying to keep their unions safe, he gave a few throw away lines in a speech or two. Then there's GUantanamo and Drones and domestic spying. This administration is constantly taking sides with Wall Street and whomever else will make large campaign donations.
It sucks, it's sad and it might well be the end of his career. Cause I guarantee you he will not have the youth support that he did 4 years ago.
I completely disagree. He's been very good for LGBT groups, and he's slowed the downturn and it's turning around. He's been better for our public image than Bush, although the drone strikes are problematic, and he's ended the war in Iraq. Essentially you're saying he didn't do the things you wanted so he's bad, but every President can be looked at that way by everyone. He's not autonomous. There are systems in place so that he CAN'T do whatever he wants. I think he's done a pretty decent job.
It sucks, it's sad and it might well be the end of his career. Cause I guarantee you he will not have the youth support that he did 4 years ago.
I completely disagree. He's been very good for LGBT groups, and he's slowed the downturn and it's turning around. He's been better for our public image than Bush, although the drone strikes are problematic, and he's ended the war in Iraq. Essentially you're saying he didn't do the things you wanted so he's bad, but every President can be looked at that way by everyone. He's not autonomous. There are systems in place so that he CAN'T do whatever he wants. I think he's done a pretty decent job.
sabine: Because nobody outside Wisconsin will remember this three months from now, and Wisconsin is irrelevant. Ohio, Florida, and maybe North Carolina and Virginia are pretty much all that matters.
The financial backers of Walker certainly will. They will play the exact same game with the same results.
The financial backers of Walker certainly will. They will play the exact same game with the same results.
Sabine still can't answer why.
code_7: Yeah, when he was running for president he had a major populist bent to him and all that seemed to fizzle out pretty damn quick...
Many people still love him, but there's a reality to being the boss and it sucks.
Many people still love him, but there's a reality to being the boss and it sucks.
code_7: I'll remember.
Every election cycle there's some overhyped state issue somewhere that happens in the primary: referenda on gay marriage, kicking the children of illegal immigrants out of schools, term limits, medical marijuana, what have you. Everybody overreacts and says it'll have massive impacts on turnout in the general election, and it never does.
Every election cycle there's some overhyped state issue somewhere that happens in the primary: referenda on gay marriage, kicking the children of illegal immigrants out of schools, term limits, medical marijuana, what have you. Everybody overreacts and says it'll have massive impacts on turnout in the general election, and it never does.
paranoyd: Many people still love him, but there's a reality to being the boss and it sucks.
They won't vote, and the people who do will be swayed by the spending blitz.
They won't vote, and the people who do will be swayed by the spending blitz.
jimmythehutt: They won't vote, and the people who do will be swayed by the spending blitz.
I disagree.
I disagree.
flashlv: Nobody?
Nobody, because Wisconsin sucks. That's there are so fucking god damn many Packer fans here.
Nobody, because Wisconsin sucks. That's there are so fucking god damn many Packer fans here.
code_7: They'll be out tomorrow, trust me.
They did not want to shoot themselves in the foot before this election, I'm sure they were biding their time, hoping for some last minute help from this administration, to no avail.
But believe me, they will be screaming tomorrow...
LOL
Left is clearly backward on the economic front.
They did not want to shoot themselves in the foot before this election, I'm sure they were biding their time, hoping for some last minute help from this administration, to no avail.
But believe me, they will be screaming tomorrow...
LOL
Left is clearly backward on the economic front.
jimmythehutt: You have far more faith in the nature of our population.
That's funny - I'm usually the one being called a cynic.
That's funny - I'm usually the one being called a cynic.
code_7: Because it is apparent that anything he said he believed in was only to get elected. He said he wanted a single payer healthcare system, he did nothing to try and achieve that. He said that hew would stand up with the people trying to keep their unions safe, he gave a few throw away lines in a speech or two. Then there's GUantanamo and Drones and domestic spying. This administration is constantly taking sides with Wall Street and whomever else will make large campaign donations.
It sucks, it's sad and it might well be the end of his career. Cause I guarantee you he will not have the youth support that he did 4 years ago.
It is unreal how correct I was in 2008, 2010, and tonight in 2012.
The progressive mentality does not work, and people are waking up to it.
It sucks, it's sad and it might well be the end of his career. Cause I guarantee you he will not have the youth support that he did 4 years ago.
It is unreal how correct I was in 2008, 2010, and tonight in 2012.
The progressive mentality does not work, and people are waking up to it.
the sonic dildo: It is unreal how correct I was in 2008, 2010, and tonight in 2012.
The progressive mentality does not work, and people are waking up to it.
You just let me know when we have an actual progressive implementing anything in the whitehouse, then I may agree with you. The fact that you believe Obama is anything more than a moderate is hilarious...
The progressive mentality does not work, and people are waking up to it.
You just let me know when we have an actual progressive implementing anything in the whitehouse, then I may agree with you. The fact that you believe Obama is anything more than a moderate is hilarious...
sabine: Every election cycle there's some overhyped state issue somewhere that happens in the primary: referenda on gay marriage, kicking the children of illegal immigrants out of schools, term limits, medical marijuana, what have you. Everybody overreacts and says it'll have massive impacts on turnout in the general election, and it never does.
More than nobody said they would remember here. Want to ammend your statement?
More than nobody said they would remember here. Want to ammend your statement?
the sonic dildo: It is unreal how correct I was in 2008, 2010, and tonight in 2012.
The progressive mentality does not work, and people are waking up to it.
dildo, please ditch sonic phildo forever tonight. You can breathe easy now. We all know who you are anyway, so why bother?
The progressive mentality does not work, and people are waking up to it.
dildo, please ditch sonic phildo forever tonight. You can breathe easy now. We all know who you are anyway, so why bother?
sabine: That's right, flash. Absolutely nobody. Not even you.
I can. Though I'm not telling.
But when it happens, you can be sure I knew ahead of time.
And if you forget, I will be there to remind you.
I can. Though I'm not telling.
But when it happens, you can be sure I knew ahead of time.
And if you forget, I will be there to remind you.
quick1: Nobody, because Wisconsin sucks. That's there are so fucking god damn many Packer fans here.
Now watch it. That's my birth state!!!
Now watch it. That's my birth state!!!
so vote republican: Now watch it. That's my birth state!!!
Yeah, and you aren't there anymore, are you?
Because Wisconsin sucks.
Yeah, and you aren't there anymore, are you?
Because Wisconsin sucks.
quick1: Yeah, and you aren't there anymore, are you?
Because Wisconsin sucks.
Look, I have fond memories of the place and it will still probably go to Obama in the fall.
Don't be a whiny ideologue. Your team lost tonight. Suck it up. My team loses every election.
I'm in California and I lost everything. Well, except for the propositions.
Because Wisconsin sucks.
Look, I have fond memories of the place and it will still probably go to Obama in the fall.
Don't be a whiny ideologue. Your team lost tonight. Suck it up. My team loses every election.
I'm in California and I lost everything. Well, except for the propositions.
so vote republican: Look, I have fond memories of the place and it will still probably go to Obama in the fall.
Don't be a whiny ideologue. Your team lost tonight. Suck it up. My team loses every election.
I'm in California and I lost everything. Well, except for the propositions.
This has nothing to do with ideologue. This has everything to do with living next to Wisconsin.
which, by the way, sucks.
Don't be a whiny ideologue. Your team lost tonight. Suck it up. My team loses every election.
I'm in California and I lost everything. Well, except for the propositions.
This has nothing to do with ideologue. This has everything to do with living next to Wisconsin.
which, by the way, sucks.
Though, I will grant you that it sucks less than Iowa. So there's that.
flashlv: Woot, Republicans win!!
And yet you helped them lose in 2008.
Are you sure you aren't bi-polar?
And yet you helped them lose in 2008.
Are you sure you aren't bi-polar?
sabine: Because nobody outside Wisconsin will remember this three months from now, and Wisconsin is irrelevant. Ohio, Florida, and maybe North Carolina and Virginia are pretty much all that matters.
OH.............. that is some serious rationalization there. I remember the the fury behind the left when all this started.
Who remembers the left moving behind the recall? Only the third recall of a duly elected governor in the history of the USA.
The stakes were huge in this election.
I remember seeing so many posts from bN libs stating Walker was gone when the recall was confirmed. I wish I could see who posted what in those threads.
People are beginning to understand how labor unions really operate, and they have decided that they don't like them.
This was a big deal. It was so foolish of big labor to come to Wisconsin and start this recall. They acted out of emotion rather than political pragmatism. If they won... great, but the loss is epic.
Fools they were.
OH.............. that is some serious rationalization there. I remember the the fury behind the left when all this started.
Who remembers the left moving behind the recall? Only the third recall of a duly elected governor in the history of the USA.
The stakes were huge in this election.
I remember seeing so many posts from bN libs stating Walker was gone when the recall was confirmed. I wish I could see who posted what in those threads.
People are beginning to understand how labor unions really operate, and they have decided that they don't like them.
This was a big deal. It was so foolish of big labor to come to Wisconsin and start this recall. They acted out of emotion rather than political pragmatism. If they won... great, but the loss is epic.
Fools they were.
libs keep banning me: dildo, please ditch sonic phildo forever tonight. You can breathe easy now. We all know who you are anyway, so why bother?
Nick, it was never about hiding behind the alt. I let everyone know who i was immediately.
Nick, it was never about hiding behind the alt. I let everyone know who i was immediately.
sabine: Every election cycle there's some overhyped state issue somewhere that happens in the primary: referenda on gay marriage, kicking the children of illegal immigrants out of schools, term limits, medical marijuana, what have you. Everybody overreacts and says it'll have massive impacts on turnout in the general election, and it never does.
Your rationalization is surprising.
This was not a silly state issue.
This was only the third attempt to recall a governor in the entire history of the USA, and the reason behind it was extremely significant.
For once a politician stood up to the thugs and survived their childish behavior. This was essentially a microcosm of where the country is going to go in regards to public labor.
Your rationalization is surprising.
This was not a silly state issue.
This was only the third attempt to recall a governor in the entire history of the USA, and the reason behind it was extremely significant.
For once a politician stood up to the thugs and survived their childish behavior. This was essentially a microcosm of where the country is going to go in regards to public labor.
Thank you, Ralph Nader.
I might very well kick him in the balls if I saw him walking around Dupont Circle.
I might very well kick him in the balls if I saw him walking around Dupont Circle.
comicbookguy: Thank you, Ralph Nader.
I might very well kick him in the balls if I saw him walking around Dupont Circle.
What did he do?
I might very well kick him in the balls if I saw him walking around Dupont Circle.
What did he do?
Whatever the results, the state of Wisconsin will get what it deserves!
fatsean: Whatever the results, the state of Wisconsin will get what it deserves!
Yep... fiscal responsibility and freedom from public union thuggerry!
Yep... fiscal responsibility and freedom from public union thuggerry!
the sonic dildo: Yep... fiscal responsibility and freedom from public union thuggerry!
Shame he hasn't helped the state one bit. Well, he's helped the rich people in the state with government money. Will be interesting to see how things go in 2012 over there.
Shame he hasn't helped the state one bit. Well, he's helped the rich people in the state with government money. Will be interesting to see how things go in 2012 over there.
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