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Communists DID take over
The genius invasion of Iraq annd Afghanistan were A-OK. The Religious extremists, A-OK. But the Tea Baggers, who actually wanted to do something conservative were what pushed him out? That's quite interesting. I mean, I agree with him that the Tea Baggers were childish and ovcrly ideological...but no more than the war mongers and the xtians IMO.
fatsean: The genius invasion of Iraq annd Afghanistan were A-OK. The Religious extremists, A-OK. But the Tea Baggers, who actually wanted to do something conservative were what pushed him out? That's quite interesting. I mean, I agree with him that the Tea Baggers were childish and ovcrly ideological...but no more than the war mongers and the xtians IMO.
Those things pushed me away from both parties. Hard to believe now but until about 2005ish I was a supporter of the Democratic party.
There were some things I had in common with the tea partiers for a while, but once they learned how to count to potato I sort of gave up on them.
Those things pushed me away from both parties. Hard to believe now but until about 2005ish I was a supporter of the Democratic party.
There were some things I had in common with the tea partiers for a while, but once they learned how to count to potato I sort of gave up on them.
I've always have pretty much seen the Republican Party as the party of assholes, proud assholes.
My problem is the religion that gets mixed in with it. Yuckie. Doesn't seem to happen as much on the other side. What part of separation of church and state do people not get? And why is it so important to you what other people do in the privacy of their own homes?
the sonic dildo: Artur Davis, former prominent Obama backer, leaves Democratic Party
What does that have to do with the article?
What does that have to do with the article?
selectivedisclosure: My problem is the religion that gets mixed in with it. Yuckie. Doesn't seem to happen as much on the other side. What part of separation of church and state do people not get? And why is it so important to you what other people do in the privacy of their own homes?
I'd like to contribute to your political campaign, please
I'd like to contribute to your political campaign, please
osirisothedead: What does that have to do with the article?
He graduated from Jefferson Davis High School.
You couldn't make it up.
He graduated from Jefferson Davis High School.
You couldn't make it up.
finnley wren: He graduated from Jefferson Davis High School.
You couldn't make it up.
He went to HARVARD too..
You couldn't make it up.
He went to HARVARD too..
"Its fevered hallucinations involve threats from imaginary communists and socialists who, seemingly, lurk around every corner."
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Quick, name one concrete reason this terrible writer left the Republican party.
While you're at it, describe Queen Amidala without mentioning her appearance.
While you're at it, describe Queen Amidala without mentioning her appearance.
polydactylkatze: Quick, name one concrete reason this terrible writer left the Republican party.
While you're at it, describe Queen Amidala without mentioning her appearance.
While you're at it, describe Queen Amidala without mentioning her appearance.
polydactylkatze: Quick, name one concrete reason this terrible writer left the Republican party.
I thought it was well written, what did you find wrong about it?
I thought it was well written, what did you find wrong about it?
code_7: I thought it was well written, what did you find wrong about it?
I stopped at "Reagan bestrode the world like a Colossus" or whatever the hell that was.
Not the way I remember it.
I stopped at "Reagan bestrode the world like a Colossus" or whatever the hell that was.
Not the way I remember it.
code_7: I thought it was well written, what did you find wrong about it?
It was all screedy opinion and no substance. Seriously, one concrete reason.
It was all screedy opinion and no substance. Seriously, one concrete reason.
polydactylkatze: Quick, name one concrete reason this terrible writer left the Republican party.
While you're at it, describe Queen Amidala without mentioning her appearance.
Queen Amidala left the Republican Party because she didn't like the Tea Party.
While you're at it, describe Queen Amidala without mentioning her appearance.
Queen Amidala left the Republican Party because she didn't like the Tea Party.
And I wasn't happy with "the Republican Party became one with every fiber of my being" or whatever the hell THAT was.
But whatever it was, it sums up pretty well pretty much everything that's wrong with politics today.
So, there's that.
But whatever it was, it sums up pretty well pretty much everything that's wrong with politics today.
So, there's that.
Because you wanted to take the easy way out?
finnley wren: I stopped at "Reagan bestrode the world like a Colossus" or whatever the hell that was.
Not the way I remember it.
GIS for Reagan Colossus
Not the way I remember it.
GIS for Reagan Colossus
finnley wren: I stopped at "Reagan bestrode the world like a Colossus" or whatever the hell that was. Not the way I remember it.
Reagan was a Communist.
Reagan was a Communist.
finnley wren: I stopped at "Reagan bestrode the world like a Colossus" or whatever the hell that was.
Not the way I remember it.
it helps if you're in fourth grade and your parents loved him.
Not the way I remember it.
it helps if you're in fourth grade and your parents loved him.
czarangelus: Reagan was a Communist.
Not psychologically impossible that the most well-known anti-communist of our time was, in fact, a communist. He did lead a union, after all.
Not psychologically impossible that the most well-known anti-communist of our time was, in fact, a communist. He did lead a union, after all.
True fact for me, my first political act was passionately lobbying my third-grade classmates to vote for Ford over Jimmy Carter in a mock election in 1975.
The school population was overwhelmingly in favor of Carter. I was a social outcast on that issue but I stuck by my guns. I knew these kids had no idea wtf they were talking about.
The school population was overwhelmingly in favor of Carter. I was a social outcast on that issue but I stuck by my guns. I knew these kids had no idea wtf they were talking about.
so vote republican: Queen Amidala left the Republican Party because she didn't like the Tea Party.
I thought she supported the republic
I thought she supported the republic
swingingjohnson: True fact for me, my first political act was passionately lobbying my third-grade classmates to vote for Ford over Jimmy Carter in a mock election in 1975.
Ford was a communist.
Ford was a communist.
finnley wren: And I wasn't happy with "the Republican Party became one with every fiber of my being" or whatever the hell THAT was.
But whatever it was, it sums up pretty well pretty much everything that's wrong with politics today.
So, there's that.
It's histrionic.
But whatever it was, it sums up pretty well pretty much everything that's wrong with politics today.
So, there's that.
It's histrionic.
swingingjohnson: True fact for me, my first political act was passionately lobbying my third-grade classmates to vote for Ford over Jimmy Carter in a mock election in 1975.The school population was overwhelmingly in favor of Carter. I was a social outcast on that issue but I stuck by my guns. I knew these kids had no idea wtf they were talking about.
In 5th grade, I read and vigorously argued in favor of one of Rush Limbaugh's books. True story.
finnley wren: Not psychologically impossible that the most well-known anti-communist of our time was, in fact, a communist. He did lead a union, after all.
He was a collectivist, deficit spending, international-interventionist big government lib. No wonder the modern GOP worships him.
In 5th grade, I read and vigorously argued in favor of one of Rush Limbaugh's books. True story.
finnley wren: Not psychologically impossible that the most well-known anti-communist of our time was, in fact, a communist. He did lead a union, after all.
He was a collectivist, deficit spending, international-interventionist big government lib. No wonder the modern GOP worships him.
finnley wren: I stopped at "Reagan bestrode the world like a Colossus" or whatever the hell that was.
Not the way I remember it.
And we sailed beneath his beneath his spectacularly low hanging scrotum. Our sails lightly brushing his greatness, as we forged bravely on to conquer Albion.
Not the way I remember it.
And we sailed beneath his beneath his spectacularly low hanging scrotum. Our sails lightly brushing his greatness, as we forged bravely on to conquer Albion.
polydactylkatze: It was all screedy opinion and no substance. Seriously, one concrete reason.
Well, I think that political ideology requires the use of opinion, doesn't it? And acting upon your ideology requires you to base your actions on your opinion, right?
But I couldn't help but think that this was a Democrat writing it, either so I don't know...
finnley wren: And I wasn't happy with "the Republican Party became one with every fiber of my being" or whatever the hell THAT was.
But whatever it was, it sums up pretty well pretty much everything that's wrong with politics today.
So, there's that.
I liked that imagery...
Well, I think that political ideology requires the use of opinion, doesn't it? And acting upon your ideology requires you to base your actions on your opinion, right?
But I couldn't help but think that this was a Democrat writing it, either so I don't know...
finnley wren: And I wasn't happy with "the Republican Party became one with every fiber of my being" or whatever the hell THAT was.
But whatever it was, it sums up pretty well pretty much everything that's wrong with politics today.
So, there's that.
I liked that imagery...
finnley wren: Was he affirmative action like Obama, you think?
I'm not sure how they do things down at the University of Sonic Dildos, but I used to ghostwrite term papers for $$$ when at Harvard. My clients didn't typically have a lot of melanin. They were virtually all WASPy legacies with Roman numerals after their name or football/hockey players.
I'm not sure how they do things down at the University of Sonic Dildos, but I used to ghostwrite term papers for $$$ when at Harvard. My clients didn't typically have a lot of melanin. They were virtually all WASPy legacies with Roman numerals after their name or football/hockey players.
swingingjohnson: True fact for me, my first political act was passionately lobbying my third-grade classmates to vote for Ford over Jimmy Carter in a mock election in 1975.
I remember having a mock election in 3rd or 4th grade and being 1 of 2 votes for Mondale.
I was a bit of an outcast myself...
I remember having a mock election in 3rd or 4th grade and being 1 of 2 votes for Mondale.
I was a bit of an outcast myself...
code_7: Well, I think that political ideology requires the use of opinion, doesn't it? And acting upon your ideology requires you to base your actions on your opinion, right?
Of course, but generally the opinion is about something specific. What did the Republican Party, or representatives thereof, do, in reality, that offended the author? I've read the article twice, and I have no idea.
Of course, but generally the opinion is about something specific. What did the Republican Party, or representatives thereof, do, in reality, that offended the author? I've read the article twice, and I have no idea.
code_7: I remember having a mock election in 3rd or 4th grade and being 1 of 2 votes for Mondale.
I was a bit of an outcast myself...
Were your parents hippies?
WhyTF would you like Mondale?
I was a bit of an outcast myself...
Were your parents hippies?
WhyTF would you like Mondale?
the sonic dildo: Artur Davis, former prominent Obama backer, leaves Democratic Party
osirisothedead: What does that have to do with the article?
Don't expect any kind of logical answer to that question. You'll be waiting a long, long, long time.
osirisothedead: What does that have to do with the article?
Don't expect any kind of logical answer to that question. You'll be waiting a long, long, long time.
polydactylkatze: Of course, but generally the opinion is about something specific. What did the Republican Party, or representatives thereof, do, in reality, that offended the author? I've read the article twice, and I have no idea.
It seems that the fundamentalism that has taken over the party has turned him off. Also, the denialism that forms all their platform planks seems to bother him as well. Whether he voiced those opinions well enough is left up to the reader, I guess...
It seems that the fundamentalism that has taken over the party has turned him off. Also, the denialism that forms all their platform planks seems to bother him as well. Whether he voiced those opinions well enough is left up to the reader, I guess...
This guy is hilarious and doesn't realize that when a Republican is in office the Democrats who become batshit crazy.
I am a Republican for economic reasons and more middle of the road ofr social issues. Both parties have the social aspect on politicis wrong.
I am a Republican for economic reasons and more middle of the road ofr social issues. Both parties have the social aspect on politicis wrong.
swingingjohnson: Were your parents hippies?
WhyTF would you like Mondale?
Both of my parents were union members and I assume that the way he handled the ATC union scared them the most.
And I still like Mondale over that retarded B actor who couldn't remember when to shit by the time he died anyway...
He is and was a fucking treasonous fuck.
WhyTF would you like Mondale?
Both of my parents were union members and I assume that the way he handled the ATC union scared them the most.
And I still like Mondale over that retarded B actor who couldn't remember when to shit by the time he died anyway...
He is and was a fucking treasonous fuck.
I almost feel the same way about the Democrat party. The difference is they're not trying to fuck up the world as badly.
bucket of truth: I almost feel the same way about the Democrat party. The difference is they're not trying to fuck up the world as badly.
Unless you're Yemeni
But towelheads don't count.
Unless you're Yemeni
But towelheads don't count.
bucket of truth: I almost feel the same way about the Democrat party.
That you're already calling them the "Democrat" party reveals you just might have one foot on the other side.
That you're already calling them the "Democrat" party reveals you just might have one foot on the other side.
code_7: Both of my parents were union members and I assume that the way he handled the ATC union scared them the most.
And I still like Mondale over that retarded B actor who couldn't remember when to shit by the time he died anyway...
He is and was a fucking treasonous fuck.
I know, I know.
But no one knew until his 2nd term. That's when it all came out.
Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
And I still like Mondale over that retarded B actor who couldn't remember when to shit by the time he died anyway...
He is and was a fucking treasonous fuck.
I know, I know.
But no one knew until his 2nd term. That's when it all came out.
Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
swingingjohnson: I know, I know.But no one knew until his 2nd term. That's when it all came out. Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
Kerry was programmed to lose, just like Romney. The international bankers like to limit potential instability as much as possible.
Kerry was programmed to lose, just like Romney. The international bankers like to limit potential instability as much as possible.
czarangelus: Kerry was programmed to lose, just like Romney. The international bankers like to limit potential instability as much as possible.
Yep. Just a game of thrones man.
Yep. Just a game of thrones man.
czarangelus: Kerry was programmed to lose, just like Romney. The international bankers like to limit potential instability as much as possible.
swingingjohnson: Yep. Just a game of thrones man.
You know who defied the game of throne last time?
Robert Kennedy.
swingingjohnson: Yep. Just a game of thrones man.
You know who defied the game of throne last time?
Robert Kennedy.
swingingjohnson: You know who defied the game of throne last time?Robert Kennedy.
I think it's true. Despite all the ridicule, despite all the lack of "proof" that satisfies the debunkers... I think there are players in this game that aren't human.
I think it's true. Despite all the ridicule, despite all the lack of "proof" that satisfies the debunkers... I think there are players in this game that aren't human.
flashlv: Because you wanted to take the easy way out?
were you looking for an easy way out back in November 2008?
were you looking for an easy way out back in November 2008?
finnley wren: That you're already calling them the "Democrat" party reveals you just might have one foot on the other side.
The semantic definition doesn't concern me. We call the people who subscribe to their party "Democrats". Why not call the party itself "The Democrat Party". Anyway, I've read the controversy and can now claim to be a gang member!
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
The semantic definition doesn't concern me. We call the people who subscribe to their party "Democrats". Why not call the party itself "The Democrat Party". Anyway, I've read the controversy and can now claim to be a gang member!
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
bucket of truth: The semantic definition doesn't concern me. We call the people who subscribe to their party "Democrats". Why not call the party itself "The Democrat Party". Anyway, I've read the controversy and can now claim to be a gang member!
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
People that get bent about democrat vs democratic are pussies. People that try to get people bent by using democrat instead of democratic are assholes.
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
People that get bent about democrat vs democratic are pussies. People that try to get people bent by using democrat instead of democratic are assholes.
swingingjohnson: I know, I know.
But no one knew until his 2nd term. That's when it all came out.
Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
Bush 41 is a baddass.
But no one knew until his 2nd term. That's when it all came out.
Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
Bush 41 is a baddass.
the sonic dildo: Bush 41 is a baddass.
No he wasn't. He was the American Vladamir Putin. He was even head of theKGB CIA.
No he wasn't. He was the American Vladamir Putin. He was even head of the
little hands of concrete: People that get bent about democrat vs democratic are pussies. People that try to get people bent by using democrat instead of democratic are assholes.
It is the Democrat party. There is nothing democratic about them.
It is the Democrat party. There is nothing democratic about them.
czarangelus: Kerry was programmed to lose, just like Romney. The international bankers like to limit potential instability as much as possible.
It seemed to me that every time Kerry was leading in the polls he would purposely go out and do something to hurt his campaign.
My pet rock could have beat Bush by just standing there with a shirt and tie and shutting up.
And even then, it was still a close race with Kerry vs Bush.
It seemed to me that every time Kerry was leading in the polls he would purposely go out and do something to hurt his campaign.
My pet rock could have beat Bush by just standing there with a shirt and tie and shutting up.
And even then, it was still a close race with Kerry vs Bush.
czarangelus: No he wasn't. He was the American Vladamir Putin. He was even head of the KGB CIA.
Yeah... a badass.
Yeah... a badass.
bucket of truth: The semantic definition doesn't concern me. We call the people who subscribe to their party "Democrats". Why not call the party itself "The Democrat Party". Anyway, I've read the controversy and can now claim to be a gang member!
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
Doesn't concern me either. But it's certainly a red flag. I mean, it wasn't the Democrats that started calling themselves that, it was the other side, and snidely. No doubt Frank Luntz did some focus groups on it, and they're trying to turn the word "Democrat" into the same kind of epithet they turned "liberal" into.
And though he is almost certainly insane, czar is onto something when he talks about people being programmed.
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
Doesn't concern me either. But it's certainly a red flag. I mean, it wasn't the Democrats that started calling themselves that, it was the other side, and snidely. No doubt Frank Luntz did some focus groups on it, and they're trying to turn the word "Democrat" into the same kind of epithet they turned "liberal" into.
And though he is almost certainly insane, czar is onto something when he talks about people being programmed.
swingingjohnson: It seemed to me that every time Kerry was leading in the polls he would purposely go out and do something to hurt his campaign.
Like have someone toss him a football in front of a camera.
Like have someone toss him a football in front of a camera.
the sonic dildo: Yeah... a badass.
if you like authoritarianism and lies about Kuwaiti babies to stimulate foreign interventionism...
if you like authoritarianism and lies about Kuwaiti babies to stimulate foreign interventionism...
the sonic dildo: Bush 41 is a baddass.
I liked Bush 41 as president. I liked Clinton better. The 2 of them were the best 2 presidents we had since Ike IMO.
I liked Bush 41 as president. I liked Clinton better. The 2 of them were the best 2 presidents we had since Ike IMO.
czarangelus: if you like authoritarianism and lies about Kuwaiti babies to stimulate foreign interventionism...
Oil.
Oil.
czarangelus: if you like authoritarianism and lies about Kuwaiti babies to stimulate foreign interventionism...
You're nitpicking. Compared to what his son did, 41 was very honorable.
You're nitpicking. Compared to what his son did, 41 was very honorable.
the sonic dildo: Oil.
Oh goodie. Let's spend 10x in war what we could spend developing superior technology in securing an inferior and highly polluting resource through war.
Oh goodie. Let's spend 10x in war what we could spend developing superior technology in securing an inferior and highly polluting resource through war.
the sonic dildo: Like have someone toss him a football in front of a camera.
He did a lot more harm than the football episode with his mouth.
But I do understand where you're coming from. I do understand that Republicans take fumbling a football on camera much more seriously than a candidate's grasp of important issues.
He did a lot more harm than the football episode with his mouth.
But I do understand where you're coming from. I do understand that Republicans take fumbling a football on camera much more seriously than a candidate's grasp of important issues.
czarangelus: Oh goodie. Let's spend 10x in war what we could spend developing superior technology in securing an inferior and highly polluting resource through war.
Cognitive dissonance is destroying America.
Cognitive dissonance is destroying America.
little hands of concrete: People that get bent about democrat vs democratic are pussies. People that try to get people bent by using democrat instead of democratic are assholes.
the sonic dildo: It is the Democrat party. There is nothing democratic about them.
A more apt series of comments could not have been asked for. Good work, ladies!
the sonic dildo: It is the Democrat party. There is nothing democratic about them.
A more apt series of comments could not have been asked for. Good work, ladies!
code_7: It seems that the fundamentalism that has taken over the party has turned him off. Also, the denialism that forms all their platform planks seems to bother him as well. Whether he voiced those opinions well enough is left up to the reader, I guess...
Okay. I read it again. He's also pissed about birthers and Tea Partiers and other fringey paranoids, and the GOP's silence at their lunacy. Also, economic hypocrisy. It's too nebulous for my simple brain to grasp as an explanation for leaving the party. A concrete example or two would have gone a long way to helping me understand what he's talking about.
Okay. I read it again. He's also pissed about birthers and Tea Partiers and other fringey paranoids, and the GOP's silence at their lunacy. Also, economic hypocrisy. It's too nebulous for my simple brain to grasp as an explanation for leaving the party. A concrete example or two would have gone a long way to helping me understand what he's talking about.
swingingjohnson: I liked Bush 41 as president. I liked Clinton better. The 2 of them were the best 2 presidents we had since Ike IMO.
Bush 41 was probably the worst President we've had, worse than his idiot son. Why? He manufactured the Iraq War. That didn't have to happen, Saddam could have been stopped from invading Kuwait if Bush 41's administration had warned Saddam about doing it. The Iraq War led to the US having troops in Saudi Arabia, one of the prime reasons Al Qaeda became pissed off at us.
Bush 41 was probably the worst President we've had, worse than his idiot son. Why? He manufactured the Iraq War. That didn't have to happen, Saddam could have been stopped from invading Kuwait if Bush 41's administration had warned Saddam about doing it. The Iraq War led to the US having troops in Saudi Arabia, one of the prime reasons Al Qaeda became pissed off at us.
blandly pompous: Bush 41 was probably the worst President we've had, worse than his idiot son. Why? He manufactured the Iraq War. That didn't have to happen, Saddam could have been stopped from invading Kuwait if Bush 41's administration had warned Saddam about doing it. The Iraq War led to the US having troops in Saudi Arabia, one of the prime reasons Al Qaeda became pissed off at us.
He was up to his neck in Iran-Contra, where we sold weapons to the people responsible for killing 250 marines. He lied his ass off on live television to Dan Rather about it. he pardoned everyone that might have otherwise talked about it.
Confess I liked him a lot at the time. Am rethinking my appraisal.
He was up to his neck in Iran-Contra, where we sold weapons to the people responsible for killing 250 marines. He lied his ass off on live television to Dan Rather about it. he pardoned everyone that might have otherwise talked about it.
Confess I liked him a lot at the time. Am rethinking my appraisal.
swingingjohnson: I do understand that Republicans take fumbling a football on camera much more seriously than a candidate's grasp of important issues.
sabine:
I liked Ford. He had a certain dignity that appealed to my 7 year old brain that Carter didn't have.
I liked Ford. He had a certain dignity that appealed to my 7 year old brain that Carter didn't have.
blandly pompous: Bush 41 was probably the worst President we've had, worse than his idiot son. Why? He manufactured the Iraq War. That didn't have to happen, Saddam could have been stopped from invading Kuwait if Bush 41's administration had warned Saddam about doing it. The Iraq War led to the US having troops in Saudi Arabia, one of the prime reasons Al Qaeda became pissed off at us.
I think they were warned. Plenty. Saddam gambled that the USA would not intervene.
I think they were warned. Plenty. Saddam gambled that the USA would not intervene.
swingingjohnson: I think they were warned. Plenty. Saddam gambled that the USA would not intervene.
There are rumors that Bushie Daddy told Saddam he could, then backstabbed him.
There are rumors that Bushie Daddy told Saddam he could, then backstabbed him.
swingingjohnson: I think they were warned. Plenty. Saddam gambled that the USA would not intervene.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/longroad/etc/cron.html
July 25, 1990 - Saddam meets with U.S. ambassador
April Glaspie, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, is summoned to meet with Saddam. According to an Iraqi transcript, Saddam harangues her about his dispute with Kuwait over oil prices. Ambassador Glaspie tells Saddam, "The president personally wants to deepen the relationship with Iraq." She expresses concerns about the Iraqi troops on the Kuwaiti border, but reflecting the official State Department position, she says, "We don't have much to say about Arab-Arab differences, like your border differences with Kuwait. ... All we hope is you solve these matters quickly."
In the final week of July, Saddam reinforces his troops. But several Arab leaders privately assure the U.S. that Iraq will not invade Kuwait. The State Department continues to make it clear the U.S. will not intervene in the dispute.
They told Saddam that they basically couldn't care less, then once he invaded they screamed bloody murder.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/longroad/etc/cron.html
July 25, 1990 - Saddam meets with U.S. ambassador
April Glaspie, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, is summoned to meet with Saddam. According to an Iraqi transcript, Saddam harangues her about his dispute with Kuwait over oil prices. Ambassador Glaspie tells Saddam, "The president personally wants to deepen the relationship with Iraq." She expresses concerns about the Iraqi troops on the Kuwaiti border, but reflecting the official State Department position, she says, "We don't have much to say about Arab-Arab differences, like your border differences with Kuwait. ... All we hope is you solve these matters quickly."
In the final week of July, Saddam reinforces his troops. But several Arab leaders privately assure the U.S. that Iraq will not invade Kuwait. The State Department continues to make it clear the U.S. will not intervene in the dispute.
They told Saddam that they basically couldn't care less, then once he invaded they screamed bloody murder.
And lets not forget that the fruit of Iran-Contra was that the president didn't have to do what the Congress told him to do when it came to warmaking, clearly a Congressional power.
We're living with that erosion of our checks and balances even today.
We're living with that erosion of our checks and balances even today.
code_7: Both of my parents were union members and I assume that the way he handled the ATC union scared them the most.
And I still like Mondale over that retarded B actor who couldn't remember when to shit by the time he died anyway...
He is and was a fucking treasonous fuck.
Most of my summer jobs , in the early 80s, were spent outdoors and I was mostly forced to listen to the entirety of the Iran-Contra hearings. So, my political views are definitely colored. That, and having Nixon resign and watch the Saigon pullout as my first TV memories have shaped my views to a great deal. Me cynical?
And I still like Mondale over that retarded B actor who couldn't remember when to shit by the time he died anyway...
He is and was a fucking treasonous fuck.
Most of my summer jobs , in the early 80s, were spent outdoors and I was mostly forced to listen to the entirety of the Iran-Contra hearings. So, my political views are definitely colored. That, and having Nixon resign and watch the Saigon pullout as my first TV memories have shaped my views to a great deal. Me cynical?
czarangelus: There are rumors that Bushie Daddy told Saddam he could, then backstabbed him.
If that were true Saddam would have communicated that info to the world with every media outlet at his disposal including interviews with 60 MINUTES.
Bush 41 probably saw Operation Desert Storm as a way to gain good political capital and also as what was strategically best for the US. Clinton never made that an issue in his campaign.
In fact, he went ahead and wholeheartedly agreed with Desert Storm. He said, "It's about the economy, stupid!"
But I don't think Bush 41's Gulf War operation was all that malicious. Bush 43 on the other hand... that was downright criminal!
If that were true Saddam would have communicated that info to the world with every media outlet at his disposal including interviews with 60 MINUTES.
Bush 41 probably saw Operation Desert Storm as a way to gain good political capital and also as what was strategically best for the US. Clinton never made that an issue in his campaign.
In fact, he went ahead and wholeheartedly agreed with Desert Storm. He said, "It's about the economy, stupid!"
But I don't think Bush 41's Gulf War operation was all that malicious. Bush 43 on the other hand... that was downright criminal!
swingingjohnson: If that were true Saddam would have communicated that info to the world with every media outlet at his disposal including interviews with 60 MINUTES.Bush 41 probably saw Operation Desert Storm as a way to gain good political capital and also as what was strategically best for the US. Clinton never made that an issue in his campaign. In fact, he went ahead and wholeheartedly agreed with Desert Storm. He said, "It's about the economy, stupid!"But I don't think Bush 41's Gulf War operation was all that malicious. Bush 43 on the other hand... that was downright criminal!
The massacres of fleeing and surrendering Iraqi soldiers?
The massacres of fleeing and surrendering Iraqi soldiers?
finnley wren: He was up to his neck in Iran-Contra, where we sold weapons to the people responsible for killing 250 marines. He lied his ass off on live television to Dan Rather about it. he pardoned everyone that might have otherwise talked about it.
Confess I liked him a lot at the time. Am rethinking my appraisal.
Up to his neck? That is certainly an understatement.
Confess I liked him a lot at the time. Am rethinking my appraisal.
Up to his neck? That is certainly an understatement.
swingingjohnson: I liked Ford. He had a certain dignity that appealed to my 7 year old brain that Carter didn't have.
I believe he was the only President in history that was never elected to any national executive office.
I believe he was the only President in history that was never elected to any national executive office.
czarangelus: The massacres of fleeing and surrendering Iraqi soldiers?
Hey... regardless of which direction the soldiers were traveling on the highway, they did not surrender in any way. They were merely retreating. Saddam didn't surrender. The opposite.
In combat operations if the enemy is getting there ass kicked, simply retreating does not mean you get a time out.
Go ahead and google what Saddam's troops did to the Kuwaiti people while they were on their invasion campaign.
Hey... regardless of which direction the soldiers were traveling on the highway, they did not surrender in any way. They were merely retreating. Saddam didn't surrender. The opposite.
In combat operations if the enemy is getting there ass kicked, simply retreating does not mean you get a time out.
Go ahead and google what Saddam's troops did to the Kuwaiti people while they were on their invasion campaign.
sabine: I believe he was the only President in history that was never elected to any national executive office.
No. He was an elected Senator. He was the only US president never elected president or vice president.
No. He was an elected Senator. He was the only US president never elected president or vice president.
swingingjohnson: Hey... regardless of which direction the soldiers were traveling on the highway, they did not surrender in any way. They were merely retreating. Saddam didn't surrender. The opposite. In combat operations if the enemy is getting there ass kicked, simply retreating does not mean you get a time out.Go ahead and google what Saddam's troops did to the Kuwaiti people while they were on their invasion campaign.
The same thing done by the Libyan Army and the Syrian Army and the Albanians, no doubt. I'll bet all they had to do was white out the names and scribble in new ones on the Pentagon press releases.
The same thing done by the Libyan Army and the Syrian Army and the Albanians, no doubt. I'll bet all they had to do was white out the names and scribble in new ones on the Pentagon press releases.
swingingjohnson: No. He was an elected Senator. He was the only US president never elected president or vice president.
Ford was never a senator.
Ford was never a senator.
finnley wren: Ford was never a senator.
OK, you're right... wiki tells us:
Ford served nearly 25 years as the Representative from Michigan's 5th congressional district, eight of them as the Republican Minority Leader.
OK, you're right... wiki tells us:
Ford served nearly 25 years as the Representative from Michigan's 5th congressional district, eight of them as the Republican Minority Leader.
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sabine: I believe he was the only President in history that was never elected to any national executive office.
Yeah! That's crazy!
Yet he got on the Warren Commission.
Ford was a spook!
Yeah! That's crazy!
Yet he got on the Warren Commission.
Ford was a spook!
blandly pompous: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/longroad/etc/cron.html
July 25, 1990 - Saddam meets with U.S. ambassador
April Glaspie, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, is summoned to meet with Saddam. According to an Iraqi transcript, Saddam harangues her about his dispute with Kuwait over oil prices. Ambassador Glaspie tells Saddam, "The president personally wants to deepen the relationship with Iraq." She expresses concerns about the Iraqi troops on the Kuwaiti border, but reflecting the official State Department position, she says, "We don't have much to say about Arab-Arab differences, like your border differences with Kuwait. ... All we hope is you solve these matters quickly."
In the final week of July, Saddam reinforces his troops. But several Arab leaders privately assure the U.S. that Iraq will not invade Kuwait. The State Department continues to make it clear the U.S. will not intervene in the dispute.
They told Saddam that they basically couldn't care less, then once he invaded they screamed bloody murder.
Damn. I try to be a little tiny bit bipartisan by giving a Republican a little bit of decent credibility, but you guys make it very difficult.
I'm gonna go see if bN has a good titty thread going on now.
July 25, 1990 - Saddam meets with U.S. ambassador
April Glaspie, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, is summoned to meet with Saddam. According to an Iraqi transcript, Saddam harangues her about his dispute with Kuwait over oil prices. Ambassador Glaspie tells Saddam, "The president personally wants to deepen the relationship with Iraq." She expresses concerns about the Iraqi troops on the Kuwaiti border, but reflecting the official State Department position, she says, "We don't have much to say about Arab-Arab differences, like your border differences with Kuwait. ... All we hope is you solve these matters quickly."
In the final week of July, Saddam reinforces his troops. But several Arab leaders privately assure the U.S. that Iraq will not invade Kuwait. The State Department continues to make it clear the U.S. will not intervene in the dispute.
They told Saddam that they basically couldn't care less, then once he invaded they screamed bloody murder.
Damn. I try to be a little tiny bit bipartisan by giving a Republican a little bit of decent credibility, but you guys make it very difficult.
I'm gonna go see if bN has a good titty thread going on now.
swingingjohnson:
Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT DUKAKIS WAS NOT GOOD COMPETITION!?!
Yeah, yeah I know...heh
Bush 41 would have never won had the Dems put up some decent competition.
ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT DUKAKIS WAS NOT GOOD COMPETITION!?!
Yeah, yeah I know...heh
bucket of truth:
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
Well some have already used your lack of respect to just go ahead and label the right as Republicons, so you know name calling is getting us way ahead...
"...the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign."
Well some have already used your lack of respect to just go ahead and label the right as Republicons, so you know name calling is getting us way ahead...
From the moment the Tea Party emerged on the scene, I had a premonition that I would eventually have to leave the GOP.
But... I was told the tea party started out completely separate from the Republicans. I learned it on bN.
But... I was told the tea party started out completely separate from the Republicans. I learned it on bN.
code_7: Well some have already used your lack of respect to just go ahead and label the right as Republicons, so you know name calling is getting us way ahead...
That's fucking cold.
Accurate but ruthless. I like you.
That's fucking cold.
Accurate but ruthless. I like you.
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