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  • Tagged with : laypersons gotta lay , rage fmb , sausage party aficionado , the labia-proficient , vaginal americans , war on vaginal americans

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    muninsfire 189 2012-06-12 22:18:43.0 login to vote score 4
    I hardly think that this is exclusive to 'geek' culture. The same dichotomy of image exists in bog-standard advertising, most movies, mass-market book covers...

    If you want to change that paradigm, feel free--by doing it differently yourself and setting an example, rather than whinging on a blog about it.
    abbynormal 1917 2012-06-12 22:24:52.0 login to vote score 8
    Sounds like his girlfriend was a bit of a cunt.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-06-12 22:31:39.0 login to vote score 4
    OMG! The Romance Novel industry objectifies men! OMG!!


    farkmeblind 482 2012-06-12 22:36:12.0 login to vote score 0
    abbynormal: Sounds like his girlfriend was a bit of a cunt.

    Is this where I post anonymous comments toward making you seem like a bitch? Because I think there may be a sausage party aficionado stalking the labia-proficient.
    quick1 501 2012-06-12 22:37:28.0 login to vote score 2
    farkmeblind: Is this where I post anonymous comments toward making you seem like a bitch? Because I think there may be a sausage party aficionado stalking the labia-proficient.


    abbynormal 1917 2012-06-12 23:02:20.0 login to vote score 2
    farkmeblind: Is this where I post anonymous comments toward making you seem like a bitch? Because I think there may be a sausage party aficionado stalking the labia-proficient.

    Clearly, this is a war on Vaginal Americans!
    farkmeblind 482 2012-06-12 23:12:27.0 login to vote score 0
    abbynormal: Clearly, this is a war on Vaginal Americans!

    The proper term is labiggers.
    farkmeblind 482 2012-06-12 23:13:13.0 login to vote score 0
    quick1: [image removed]

    Laypersons gotta lay
    gradivus 3607 2012-06-12 23:19:13.0 login to vote score 3
    I do wish they wouldportray female characters with more..no less sexuality. That cant be their only appeal to make a great character. Make a woman a badass first, the sexiness will usually follow.


    farkmeblind 482 2012-06-12 23:22:46.0 login to vote score 0
    gradivus: I do wish they wouldportray female characters with more..no less sexuality. That cant be their only appeal to make a great character. Make a woman a badass first, the sexiness will usually follow.

    Pfff do you want a badass or a DDD chick in scraps of chainmail? They're kinda mutually exclusive.
    eddyatwork 998 2012-06-12 23:26:52.0 login to vote score 1
    farkmeblind: Is this where I post anonymous comments toward making you seem like a bitch? Because I think there may be a sausage party aficionado stalking the labia-proficient.

    RAGE FMB!
    farkmeblind 482 2012-06-12 23:29:04.0 login to vote score 0
    eddyatwork: RAGE FMB!

    That's more mild annoyance but don't keep my opinion b/t you and a tag.
    farkmeblind 482 2012-06-13 00:55:03.0 login to vote score 0
    eddyatwork: RAGE FMB!

    Now that's a tag, motherfuckers!
    antialias 3250 2012-06-13 01:39:20.0 login to vote score 0
    I have never had trouble with nerds who are also assholes. This issue hasn't troubled me much. That is good for me, but helps no one else. The burden of ending sexism in nerd culture remains on the males.
    abbynormal 1917 2012-06-13 01:41:45.0 login to vote score 1
    antialias: I have never had trouble with nerds who are also assholes. This issue hasn't troubled me much. That is good for me, but helps no one else. The burden of ending sexism in nerd culture remains on the males.

    It's not hard. The assholes get ignored by the chicks. It's simple supply and demand.
    antialias 3250 2012-06-13 01:54:44.0 login to vote score 3
    abbynormal: It's not hard. The assholes get ignored by the chicks. It's simple supply and demand.

    Not that simple. Society trains women to appease, to avoid conflict. Some of us deny that bullshit, but that's putting the burden on women. It shouldn't be on us to defy the bullshit. It should be on them to not profer the bullshit to begin with.
    so vote republican 6688 2012-06-13 02:08:02.0 login to vote score 0
    antialias: Not that simple. Society trains women to appease, to avoid conflict. Some of us deny that bullshit, but that's putting the burden on women. It shouldn't be on us to defy the bullshit. It should be on them to not profer the bullshit to begin with.

    You started with them being "society vs women" and ended with "men vs women".

    Society is not men, and in fact young women are educated more than men and earning more than men.
    antialias 3250 2012-06-13 02:30:17.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican: You started with them being "society vs women" and ended with "men vs women".

    Society is not men, and in fact young women are educated more than men and earning more than men.


    I didn't really change at all. I was speaking from the viewpoint of women from the start, to another woman.

    How is the subject of education germane?
    valentinselezynov 3304 2012-06-13 04:12:12.0 login to vote score 2
    I know that this is covered in that little bingo card thing, but i do find it unfortunate that he can't look past the way some female characters are dressed.

    I'm not into comic books at all (aside from a few mangas) but in video games, it's important to give the major characters a distinct visual identity, and often with the "over-sexualised" female characters, if you really look at them you'll find that their outfits say a lot more than "i was designed to make male players happy". Like Mass Effect's Miranda.



    Yeah, it's an almost skintight catsuit-like thing. But just by looking at it you get a glimpse into her characterisation. It's obviously a very flattering ensemble and accentuates her physical assets. In an early conversation with Commander Shepard, she tells him "everything about me was designed to give me an edge... even my looks". One of the possible retorts is to call her cocky... which she is, and is expressed in her outfit. Later on in the game, she volunteers herself for several key roles during the suicide mission - one of which she's actually not very well suited to.

    I also find the hexagonal pattern to give it a very clinical vibe.. which again fits in with her personality. Her willingness to execute her best friend to attain her goal demonstrates that. And cut of shoulder sections give the outfit a very official look, which fits her position of authority within Cerberus and aboard the Normandy.

    These people seem to write off the fact that male characters are also sexualised in their own way, and i get the impression they do so because they understand that the way they look actually says a lot about them... and are under the misimpression that female characters are just sexxed up for the sake of it, and at the expense of being a visual depiction of their characterisaton.

    It is sometimes the case, like in Soul Calibur, but i think that in a lot of the better, story-driven games, women are given fair treatment a lot of the time.
    it's got what plants crave 1830 2012-06-13 06:42:39.0 login to vote score 1
    I dunno. I like to do sexy cosplay, but slave Leia's get on my nerves. To me, it's a cop-out and sign the woman isn't really a geek. She's there for her boyfriend or just some male attention. A geek girl would know to go as say... Barbarella, with the armor and stuff. Totally geeky, but also hot and showing at least a deeper knowledge of geek culture.

    I just don't think geek culture offers a lot of hot-yet-not-stretching-credulity options in female characters when it comes to costuming. I don't mind if they're sexy. The male characters are sexy, a lot of 'em. But when I dress up, I try to find something that's not ridiculous, and celebrate that by doing it well, and sexy as I'm able without looking foolish.
    muninsfire 189 2012-06-13 06:45:29.0 login to vote score 0
    it's got what plants crave: I dunno. I like to do sexy cosplay, but slave Leia's get on my nerves. To me, it's a cop-out and sign the woman isn't really a geek. She's there for her boyfriend or just some male attention. A geek girl would know to go as say... Barbarella, with the armor and stuff. Totally geeky, but also hot and showing at least a deeper knowledge of geek culture.

    I just don't think geek culture offers a lot of hot-yet-not-stretching-credulity options in female characters when it comes to costuming. I don't mind if they're sexy. The male characters are sexy, a lot of 'em. But when I dress up, I try to find something that's not ridiculous, and celebrate that by doing it well, and sexy as I'm able without looking foolish.


    Depends on which particular sub-'geek' you're looking at.

    Dynasty Warriors offers quite a few cosplay options that are fairly fun, from what I've seen--and, should you be of an inclination to put a group together, there's more'n enough options to fill it out.
    eddyatwork 998 2012-06-13 07:18:12.0 login to vote score 1
    so vote republican: You started with them being "society vs women" and ended with "men vs women".

    Society is not men, and in fact young women are educated more than men and earning more than men.


    Now now, as a white male you are automatically wrong. Didn't you know that?

    sloth 222 2012-06-13 08:39:22.0 login to vote score 1
    abbynormal: Sounds like his girlfriend was a bit of a cunt.

    I think that's more his portrayal than anything. Note he quickly he dismisses the very relevant point that the men are just as sexualized - it's just that the sexualition of men looks different than it does for women.
    fatsean 3838 2012-06-13 08:43:13.0 login to vote score 1
    sloth: I think that's more his portrayal than anything. Note he quickly he dismisses the very relevant point that the men are just as sexualized - it's just that the sexualition of men looks different than it does for women.

    The Hulk certainly makes me feel inadequate...

    so vote republican 6688 2012-06-13 09:14:22.0 login to vote score 0
    antialias: I didn't really change at all. I was speaking from the viewpoint of women from the start, to another woman.

    How is the subject of education germane?


    Who is receiving education is a reflection of the values of "society".
    ricardo shadowban 8391 2012-06-13 11:54:25.0 login to vote score 0
    valentinselezynov: Like Mass Effect's Miranda.

    So which one did you bang?
    valentinselezynov 3304 2012-06-13 14:20:04.0 login to vote score 2
    ricardo shadowban: So which one did you bang?

    I respect the women of Mass Effect far too much to kiss and tell.

    Suffice it to say, any romantic entanglements my Commander Shepard may have found himself in, were far more than just physical affairs. We had a mental connection too... and not just because that's the way Asari have sex.
    ricardo shadowban 8391 2012-06-13 15:24:36.0 login to vote score 0
    valentinselezynov: We had a mental connection too... and not just because that's the way Asari have sex.

    Pfft. I offered her a comfort shag, but she wanted monogamy, and I was already banging Jack, because Jack's covered in tattoos and fucked up, so you just know the sex is going to be hot and nasty.
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